Tempestus Griffons (Space Wolves Successor) 2,000 pts

CCE1981 · February 9, 2022

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [96 PL, 2,000pts, 7CP] ++

+ Configuration +

**Chapter Selector**: Born Heroes , Custom Chapter, Space Wolves Successor, Whirlwind of Rage

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Deeds and Sagas [Reference]

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: Matched

+ Stratagems +

A Trophy Bestowed [-1CP]

Strategem: Relics of the Chapter [-1CP]: Number of Extra Relics

+ HQ +

Captain in Phobos Armour [5 PL, 95pts, -1CP]: 2. Lord of Deceit, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

Librarian [7 PL, 140pts, -1CP]: 2. Murderous Hurricane, 4. Instincts Awoken, 5. Storm Caller, Bolt pistol, Chapter Command: Chief Librarian, Force sword, Jump Pack, Psychic Mastery, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, The Armour of Russ

Primaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, 150pts, -1CP]: 3. Exhortation of Rage, 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Hunter, Stratagem: Warrior of Legend, The Vox Espiritum, Warlord, Wise Orator

+ Troops +

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]

. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades

. Incursor Sergeant

Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]: Helix gauntlet

. 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine

. Infiltrator Sergeant

Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]: Helix gauntlet

. 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine

. Infiltrator Sergeant

+ Elites +

Wolf Guard [7 PL, 195pts]: Jump Pack

. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

Wolf Guard [7 PL, 195pts]: Jump Pack

. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

+ Fast Attack +

Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt

. 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle

Skyclaws [13 PL, 230pts]

. Skyclaw

. Skyclaw Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Flamer

. Skyclaw with Special Weapon: Flamer

. Wolf Guard Skyclaw Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Thunder hammer

Skyclaws [13 PL, 230pts]

. Skyclaw

. Skyclaw Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Flamer

. Skyclaw with Special Weapon: Flamer

. Wolf Guard Skyclaw Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Thunder hammer

+ Heavy Support +

Eradicator Squad [14 PL, 250pts]: Heavy melta rifle

. 4x Eradicator: 4x Bolt pistol

. Eradicator Sgt

++ Total: [96 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++

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Captain, Incursor, possible 1x Infiltrator deploy in front and disrupt opponents deployment, then redeploy with Lord of Deceit off board or the Infiltrator unit in my deployment zone. Cunning of the Wolf the Eradicators to come in with the Phobos Captain. Predominately the Infiltrators will be performing actions. 20x Skyclaws intended to clear out chaff, The Battle Leaders have options to use Thunder Hammers in case the unit gets locked down. Wolf Guard bring the hurt, with full re-rolls should roll enough 6s to hit more than they swing, with a giant Chaplain Radius Everything can spread out. Outriders can provide support or contest objectives almost anywhere. Librarian provides bubbles to help keep the big group alive. Yeah Skyclaws will lose 9x attacks, but that still leaves 32x chainsword attacks with exploding 6s everything else is overkill.

Should I rejigger some points to give the Skyclaws better special weapons? Plasma or melta? Any other changes?

Edited February 9, 2022 by CCE1981

CCE1981 · February 9, 2022

I think this is better, same basic setup, just realized exactly where I could find points. The meltaguns/combi-meltas could be replaced with plasma, 8x plasma shots sounds kinda nice and more in line with removing the same targets.

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [95 PL, 2,000pts, 7CP] ++

+ Configuration +

**Chapter Selector**: Born Heroes , Custom Chapter, Space Wolves Successor, Whirlwind of Rage

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Deeds and Sagas [Reference]

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: Matched

+ Stratagems +

A Trophy Bestowed [-1CP]

Strategem: Relics of the Chapter [-1CP]: Number of Extra Relics

+ HQ +

Captain in Phobos Armour [5 PL, 95pts, -1CP]: 2. Lord of Deceit, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

Librarian [7 PL, 140pts, -1CP]: 2. Murderous Hurricane, 4. Instincts Awoken, 5. Storm Caller, Bolt pistol, Chapter Command: Chief Librarian, Force sword, Jump Pack, Psychic Mastery, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, The Armour of Russ

Primaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, 150pts, -1CP]: 3. Exhortation of Rage, 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Hunter, Stratagem: Warrior of Legend, The Vox Espiritum, Warlord, Wise Orator

+ Troops +

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]

. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades

. Incursor Sergeant

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]

. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades

. Incursor Sergeant

Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]: Helix gauntlet

. 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine

. Infiltrator Sergeant

+ Elites +

Wolf Guard [7 PL, 195pts]: Jump Pack

. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

Wolf Guard [7 PL, 195pts]: Jump Pack

. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

+ Fast Attack +

Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt

. 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle

Skyclaws [13 PL, 255pts]

. Skyclaw

. Skyclaw Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Meltagun

. Skyclaw with Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Wolf Guard Skyclaw Pack Leader: Combi-melta, Thunder hammer

Skyclaws [13 PL, 255pts]

. Skyclaw

. Skyclaw Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Meltagun

. Skyclaw with Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Wolf Guard Skyclaw Pack Leader: Combi-melta, Thunder hammer

+ Heavy Support +

Eradicator Squad [14 PL, 225pts]: Melta rifle

. 4x Eradicator: 4x Bolt pistol

. Eradicator Sgt

++ Total: [95 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++

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Edited February 9, 2022 by CCE1981

TiguriusX · February 9, 2022

Skyclaws and outriders confuse me

Skyclaws first

As a successor you lose berserk charge bonus attack

Seems like they are a melta delivery unit

You can make WG with combi meltas and SS or terminators with combi melta and SS

terminators can even hit on 2s with fury of the first stratagem and teleport means mobility doesnt stop them from doing melta job...when i run terminators they get combi melta + LC for multi purpose role...the o ly bad part is expensive

outriders i tested long ago and just bleh...good luck if you keep them

CCE1981 · February 10, 2022

Cool,

Skyclaws - I am aware that they will lose one attack each, however after smacking 5x Assault Intercessors into a Nurgle Demon Prince and bringing him down, Thunderhammer on the Sgt, I am not that concerned about their melee output. Especially when you add in the extra hits from 6s, and double exploding 6s. The Thunderhammer and Melta’s are there to help against tougher targets, I am considering replacing the two melta’s on the normal guys with plasma. The other things with the Skyclaws is that that is 20x Marines, or 40x wounds. The thought is that they aren’t something to be ignored. And will draw fire away from the Wolfguard.

Outriders - I haven’t used them yet. I am thinking if them as fast units to nab objectives, or units I can perform actions with.

TiguriusX · February 10, 2022

if you keep the sky claws consider adding a unit of wulfen

12" reroll charge buff for blood claws/sky claws

CCE1981 · February 10, 2022

If I remove 8x Skyclaws I can add in a unit of Wulfen, or remove the Outriders, not completely sure which would be better to remove.

CCE1981 · February 10, 2022

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [97 PL, 2,000pts, 7CP] ++

+ Configuration +

**Chapter Selector**: Born Heroes , Custom Chapter, Space Wolves Successor, Whirlwind of Rage

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Deeds and Sagas [Reference]

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: Matched

+ Stratagems +

A Trophy Bestowed [-1CP]

Strategem: Relics of the Chapter [-1CP]: Number of Extra Relics

+ HQ +

Captain in Phobos Armour [5 PL, 95pts, -1CP]: 2. Lord of Deceit, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

Librarian [7 PL, 140pts, -1CP]: 2. Murderous Hurricane, 4. Instincts Awoken, 5. Storm Caller, Bolt pistol, Chapter Command: Chief Librarian, Force sword, Jump Pack, Psychic Mastery, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, The Armour of Russ

Primaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, 150pts, -1CP]: 3. Exhortation of Rage, 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Hunter, Stratagem: Warrior of Legend, The Vox Espiritum, Warlord, Wise Orator

+ Troops +

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]

. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades

. Incursor Sergeant

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]

. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades

. Incursor Sergeant

Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]: Helix gauntlet

. 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine

. Infiltrator Sergeant

+ Elites +

Wolf Guard [7 PL, 195pts]: Jump Pack

. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

Wolf Guard [7 PL, 195pts]: Jump Pack

. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

Wulfen [8 PL, 145pts]

. Wulfen Pack Leader: Wulfen Frost claws

. 4x Wulfen w/ thunder hammer & storm shield: 4x Storm Shield, 4x Thunder Hammer

+ Fast Attack +

Skyclaws [13 PL, 245pts]

. Skyclaw

. Skyclaw Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Meltagun

. Skyclaw with Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Wolf Guard Skyclaw Pack Leader: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw

Skyclaws [13 PL, 245pts]

. Skyclaw

. Skyclaw Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Meltagun

. Skyclaw with Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Wolf Guard Skyclaw Pack Leader: Combi-melta, Lightning Claw

+ Heavy Support +

Eradicator Squad [14 PL, 250pts]: Heavy melta rifle

. 4x Eradicator: 4x Bolt pistol

. Eradicator Sgt

++ Total: [97 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++

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Edited February 10, 2022 by CCE1981

TiguriusX · February 10, 2022

Couple of final tweaks to consider

morkai bolts for phobos

Make librarian warlord and give hunter to him instead of chaplain. your armor of russ needs to make it into key combat. the chaplain can still boost 20 and has huge range with vox relic.

5 heavy melta is overkill. consider dropping 1 or 2.

i would add company vets for the bodyguard rule...this lets your phobos captain stand in the open firing his morkai bolts without fear of being shot

alternatively bump captain up to chapter master. reroll all hits is huuuge in this army

can also upgrade 1 eradicator to MM basically doubling the number of shots

good hunting. curious how those sky claws perform. not something i have seen or heard about being used

CCE1981 · February 10, 2022

Morkai Bolts is an interesting thought, it gives the Captain a bit more to do than support the Earadicators and redeploy the Incursors.

Company Vets would require an extra Command Point expenditure to stay with the Captain. I am redeploying him at a minimum with the Eradicators, and if I go second him the Eradicators and the Incursors.

Chapter Master and Saga of Hunter: Chaplain Litany of Hate Grants full re-rolls, then uses Canticle of Hate to increase charge range and consolidation, and gets Saga of the Hunter so that after he makes a charge roll he also provides allows everything in his Aura to Advance and Charge all within 9" of him.

Heavy Melta is all or nothing, I have found that 3x is anemic...though that was their regular guns. With all 5x Heavy Melta I don't really need the Multi-Melta. Unless I drop two Heavy Eradicators and give a remaining Eradicator a Multi-Melta, that would give me 95 pts to play with.

Those 95 pts can go towards Chapter master or Eliminators....

CCE1981 · February 11, 2022

A thought occurred to me what if I replaced the Eradicators with Eliminators:

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [98 PL, 2,000pts, 6CP] ++

+ Configuration +

**Chapter Selector**: Born Heroes , Custom Chapter, Space Wolves Successor, Whirlwind of Rage

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Deeds and Sagas [Reference]

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: Matched

+ Stratagems +

A Trophy Bestowed [-1CP]

Strategem: Relics of the Chapter [-2CP]: 2x Number of Extra Relics

+ HQ +

Captain in Phobos Armour [5 PL, 95pts, -1CP]: 2. Lord of Deceit, Morkai's Teeth Bolts, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

Librarian [7 PL, 140pts, -1CP]: 2. Murderous Hurricane, 4. Instincts Awoken, 5. Storm Caller, Bolt pistol, Chapter Command: Chief Librarian, Force sword, Jump Pack, Psychic Mastery, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, The Armour of Russ

Primaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, 150pts, -1CP]: 3. Exhortation of Rage, 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Hunter, Stratagem: Warrior of Legend, The Vox Espiritum, Warlord, Wise Orator

+ Troops +

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]

. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades

. Incursor Sergeant

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]

. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades

. Incursor Sergeant

Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]: Helix gauntlet

. 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine

. Infiltrator Sergeant

+ Elites +

Wolf Guard [7 PL, 195pts]: Jump Pack

. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

Wolf Guard [7 PL, 195pts]: Jump Pack

. Wolf Guard: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

Wulfen [8 PL, 145pts]

. Wulfen Pack Leader: Wulfen Frost claws

. 4x Wulfen w/ thunder hammer & storm shield: 4x Storm Shield, 4x Thunder Hammer

+ Fast Attack +

Skyclaws [13 PL, 235pts]

. Skyclaw

. Skyclaw Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Meltagun

. Skyclaw with Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Wolf Guard Skyclaw Pack Leader: Bolt pistol, Lightning Claw

Skyclaws [13 PL, 235pts]

. Skyclaw

. Skyclaw Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Meltagun

. Skyclaw with Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Wolf Guard Skyclaw Pack Leader: Bolt pistol, Lightning Claw

+ Heavy Support +

Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Las Fusil

. Eliminator Sergeant: Las Fusil

. 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades

Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Las Fusil

. Eliminator Sergeant: Las Fusil

. 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades

Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Las Fusil

. Eliminator Sergeant: Las Fusil

. 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades

++ Total: [98 PL, 6CP, 2,000pts] ++

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TiguriusX · February 11, 2022

my sweet spot is 3 heavy melta and a MM for 205 total

didnt realize you are doing reserve captain + eradicators

maybe upgrade to a combat oriented captain with the points instead?

Morkai bolts is a LT reroll basically which you lack

You can also give them to wolf guard pack leader (give him a bolter too)

THs with savage strike and reroll 1s is real good. keen senses mean they hit on 2s as well

good hunting

Edited February 11, 2022 by TiguriusX

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