phandaal Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Only needs to be said once… otherwise it’s borderline thread jacking imo . Sorry, but that is a poor excuse. WrathOfTheLion and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5797850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 You’ve actually mentioned elsewhere. Honestly I think you’d better served putting in your signature so to avoid retreads like this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5797877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I'm not worked up about it at all. I just think complaining about Champion Stances being somehow too much is laughable when in reality it's no different to choosing Librarian Powers or Chaplain Mantras. I suspect they'll be even simpler than that, they'll likely just be "Chop More", "Chop Harder" or "Chop First" or a very similar selection and you choose each turn how you want to fight. Rik Karhedron, Marshal Reinhard, Dracos and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5797886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I don't disagree with the Champion stances at all, but whether it's part of a wider trend that I wouldn't agree with. I.e., if it's just the Champion, that's okay, but if every single HQ option in the Codex has something like this, then it's too much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5797888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I hope they do bring in a "Command Squad" rule soon for Primaris Marines. Once we have a Champion we're essentially there but using up 3 Elites slots and 2 HQ to take them is a bit much. Rik Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5797889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 They should add that rule, as well retool Veteran Intercessors or add a separate Primaris Company Veterans. Even better if they keep it all clean and the rule is just the same between them, so you can mix and match. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5797890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I would also love to see a proper command squat option for primaris. Something like: - apothecary - ancient - champion - 0-2 lieutenants - 0-2 veterans Single choice that doesn’t use a slot if you have a captain All have to be on foot if the captain is. Logically it would be lieutenants, not veterans in such a unit, it’s the company command structure essentially. But from a rule perspective, the lieutenants stuck in a unit would suck and really you’d want vets with the bodyguard rule. Or they’d have to have it that the command squad can be split up like lieutenants can already, but perhaps all have the bodyguard rule for the captain they were purchased for. Marshal Reinhard, Son of Sacrifice and phandaal 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5797978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I would also love to see a proper command squat option for primaris. Something like: - apothecary - ancient - champion - 0-2 lieutenants - 0-2 veterans Single choice that doesn’t use a slot if you have a captain All have to be on foot if the captain is. Logically it would be lieutenants, not veterans in such a unit, it’s the company command structure essentially. But from a rule perspective, the lieutenants stuck in a unit would suck and really you’d want vets with the bodyguard rule. Or they’d have to have it that the command squad can be split up like lieutenants can already, but perhaps all have the bodyguard rule for the captain they were purchased for. This would make sense, given how OG Marine command squads work already. Probably what we will end up seeing once all options are available as Primaris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5798076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lame Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 The stances thing has been covered a bit already but I imagine it'll just be handled like multiple weapon profiles you can choose between to hit harder, hit more or be less (defensive stance or whatever), like Rik said. Should be simple enough that way, but I guess only time will tell if it's something neat and compact or ends up being more convoluted than a guy with a big sword really needs to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5798089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I have to agree on the bloat factor going up with the stances, etc between the champion and the new gravis captain. Not a fan. I had to throw my .02 in on that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5805210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I really do need to get around to emailing my gravis question to GW, because I thought the gravis change was an attempt to make having two melee weapons meaningful all the time by granting some extra attacks with the off-hand weapon. The champion stances are nothing new. Grey Knight champions have had them since 5th edition I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5805818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanger Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I donT know if this is the right thread to ask, but the Primaris Champion was accounced as an event only model. Anyone knows if it can be bought at Adepticon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5807295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Thats where they said itd be first available, didnt they? Vanger 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5807304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Well, I just grabbed one off eBay, so they'd better be available there. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5807628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyadventurer Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 No one seems to be selling any with shipping to Canada :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5807654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadGreek Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I donT know if this is the right thread to ask, but the Primaris Champion was accounced as an event only model. Anyone knows if it can be bought at Adepticon? It can. A friend of mine went to Adepticon Chicago and got one. phandaal and Vanger 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5807660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Anyone seen a sprue floating around in the wild? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5807673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 I am glad I hedged my bets on the Primaris Company Champion. The sky isn't falling but the Data sheet is somewhat week for the points. Why he laughably got a 2+ Ballistic Skill with no ranged weapon is beyond me, especially since he seems to pay the points for it. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5808082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 There’s a data sheet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5808101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 Yeah, saw it on Facebook and n the “News” section on here Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5808123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadGreek Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Got mine today from a friend who was at AdeptiCon. Anyone seen a sprue floating around in the wild? WARMASTER_ and CCE1981 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5811888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) Mine showed up on Friday. I still expect that by the time he's fully legal, there'll be an MPK alternative with a Combat Shield option and at least a Bolt Pistol for ranged. This fellow... well, he must REALLY like that sword. Edited April 4, 2022 by Lord Nord Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373330-primaris-champion/page/2/#findComment-5811889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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