XeonDragon Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 So, whilst they are not super 'meta', I like the idea of super-hero characters do crazy stuff on the table top. So I'd love some ideas for "out of the box" smash/slash/tear character options for BA and FT - Warlord traits, relics, stratagems, the works. Either maximum damage output, maximum durability or just a creative mish-mash of awesomeness :) Please don't confine yourselves to just jump characters, I'd some to see some bike captain/chaplain builds as well as terminator builds :) (especially for Flesh Tearers using the crimson plate relic armour). For context, I was thinking of running "trio" of "super hero" characters, probably a captain, chaplain and a Lt in a fluffy list for leauge games, but open to librarians and other characters as well :D Death Company also welcome. Looking forward to seeing your amazing ideas :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Here's a few to get you started However, those are Captains. Chaplains and Lieuenants have potential too XeonDragon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5804584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) I know I've brought this guy up before elsewhere, but I really like the idea of a nigh invulnerable chapter master in gravis armor. Have him babysit that other high-durability unit you take the midfield for OoM points.Power sword, master crafted boltstorm gauntlet, Angel Artifice, and the adamantium mantle.Sure he's slow, but meet the new smash erT6, 8W, 2+/4++/5+++, 6 D3 fist attacks on the charge (7 in assault doctrine) who can give himself rerolls to hit. Just for good measure he also has the couple extra sword attacks and the ranged attacks on his boltstorm gauntlet, which is a pistol and can fire into combat, are D2.FWIW, he can shred chaff with the sword. 8-9 attacks on the charge at S5 with RT will remove a lot of 1w models from the table. Edited March 15, 2022 by Jolemai Swear filter dodge Helias_Tancred, BLACK BLŒ FLY and XeonDragon 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5804590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XeonDragon Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) I know I've brought this guy up before elsewhere, but I really like the idea of a nigh invulnerable chapter master in gravis armor. Have him babysit that other high-durability unit you take the midfield for OoM points. Power sword, master crafted boltstorm gauntlet, Angel Artifice, and the adamantium mantle. Sure he's slow, but meet the new smash er T6, 8W, 2+/4++/5+++, 6 D3 fist attacks on the charge (7 in assault doctrine) who can give himself rerolls to hit. Just for good measure he also has the couple extra sword attacks and the ranged attacks on his boltstorm gauntlet, which is a pistol and can fire into combat, are D2. FWIW, he can shred chaff with the sword. 8-9 attacks on the charge at S5 with RT will remove a lot of 1w models from the table. Thanks for sharing, it looks interesting and potentially a great captain to go with some BGV or assault terminators with thunder hammers Here's a few to get you started However, those are Captains. Chaplains and Lieuenants have potential too Thanks for sharing Edited March 15, 2022 by Jolemai Quote edited Paladin777 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5804599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khorneeq Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Let me introduce Captain Swordmaster from DC Bike mounted, armed with Teeth of Terra and storm shield, given Imperium's Sword... He can shred elite infantry with 10A hitting on 2's (or more if using Death Vision), wounding on 2's even models with T5 and is quite survivable with T5,6W, 2+/4++/6+++ (which can be upgraded with Stratagem or Death Vision to 2+/3++/5+++) XeonDragon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5804612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyB Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 My Chapter Master is in Gravis, wielding a left-hand powerfist (I think it's from the Devastator box, it's pointing at the little holotable from the GSC Nexos) and a Guardian Spear. I'm going to get a Deathwatch shoulder pad when I can and add on a cape or cloak. I use him as a Dark Imperium Captain, and I usually run the Master of the Codex WT, but the first time I fielded him, I ran Artificer of War and took the Adamantine Mantle as well as the Chapter Master relic. Planted him with a squad of Heavy Intercessors and laughed heartily as an entire Leman Russ Punisher squadron failed to wound him. I got lucky, but seeing him proceed to munch a Russ and it's nearby infantry squad in one turn with the intercessors was oh so satisfying. Weirdly, I like librarians for doing dumb stuff well. Having a Phobos Libby appear from nowhere, rip the secrets from the opponents mind before carving them in two with a force sword is legitimately powerful with a little bit of the Dice God's grace. Bonus points if you give the Libby the 3-shot bolt pistol relic and also eliminate a character with that. XeonDragon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5804686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I like the indestructible Biker Chaplain build. Primaris Chaplain on Bike Relic: Armour Indomitus WLT: Gift of Foresight 2n WLT: Artificer of war to buy Adamantium Cape You have a T5 8W character with a 2+/4++/5+++ save and a free rerolled armour save every turn. If you want to make him hit harder too then Mantra of Strength is great. Plus he has great mobility. Khorneeq, BLACK BLŒ FLY and XeonDragon 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5804720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) This is just me theorycrafting, but here's the mounted shredder: budget variety! Bike Captain, ToT, storm bolter, Imperium's Sword At a mere 105 points, this guy is nice and cheap, and you don't need to spend any CP on him if he's your warlord, though you can if you want. With 8 shots out to 24" he doesn't have to wait to get close and personal before dealing damage. When he does get up close he's got 9 attacks on the charge at S6 (10 attacks in assault doctrine), and with a 14" movement he'll most likely be the one doing the charging. Probably a nice captain for smaller games or if you're short on points. Edited March 17, 2022 by Paladin777 XeonDragon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5805153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyros Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I 've also been toying with the idea of a "ballistic missile" Primaris Chaplain on bike. WT: The Imperium's Sword, Angel Exemplar WT: Gift of Foresight Relic: Benediction of Fury You can add more if you like. but with Mantra of strength, on the (re-rollable and +1") charge, you get seven attacks S8 AP-2 D4 (with potential mortals and our +1 wound roll) Eight attacks with Savage Echoes... XeonDragon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5805247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluejayJunior Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just throwing this out there because he's been very effective in my Crusade games so far. A company champion with the Shield Eternal relic and The Imperium's Sword WL trait. An absolute monster in combat, especially against characters. Probably not something you'd use a lot in matched play however. Paladin777 and XeonDragon 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5805278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diagramdude Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 How susceptible are these builds to the recent ignore invulnerable weaponry? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5805793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 The invulnerable save is a big part of their durability so ignoring it is a big pain. Be sure to make full use of their Character protection. In melee, you will just have to pick your fights carefully. Primaris characters have an edge here as THP can provide an extra layer of protection. XeonDragon and Spyros 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5805799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 So can Stalwart (Successor trait) Karhedron and XeonDragon 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5805800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) A lieutenant with a jump pack, twin lightning claws, and artificer armor is slash-captain light. 6 attacks on the charge (7 in assault doctrine) and reroll 1's to wound aura makes for a nice little mobile buff-bot with some reasonable damage and survivability. Add master crafted to the claw for your MEQ shredding needs, but remember that one of those attacks will always be D1 because of RAW. Edited March 22, 2022 by Paladin777 XeonDragon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5806489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XeonDragon Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 I really like this idea - a great escort for other jump units that might benefit from re-roll 1s to wound, i.e. units with without lightning claws :) A lieutenant with a jump pack, twin lightning claws, and artificer armor is slash-captain light. 6 attacks on the charge (7 in assault doctrine) and reroll 1's to wound aura makes for a nice little mobile buff-bot with some reasonable damage and survivability.Add master crafted to the claw for your MEQ shredding needs, but remember that one of those attacks will always be D1 because of RAW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5806996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Or shooty units like bolter inceptors (plasma is better off with the captain). XeonDragon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373567-out-of-the-box-smashslashtear-character-options/#findComment-5807037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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