How expensive is too expensive on the new HH 2.0 Launch Box?

[MegaVolt87]

I hope there is an alt art hardback rulebook in this for that kind of money. Models aren't enough these days, you need a premium lux overall package to appeal to people outside the usual addicts and HH enthusiasts. Don't charge me Ferrari money GW and give me a Lexus.

[Red_Shift]

For me it’s far too much money although I appreciate if you do want all the contents it’s a significant saving. The terminators being old models and the lack of some really inspiring character models doesn’t help. 
 

Now if it were a bfg launch box I might have just thrown money down anyway but it’s all variations of power armour and I’ve got companies worth painted up already. 

[Karhedron]

Ceiling price is not just about perceived value. The box set may well represent excellent value against purchasing the kits separately but if the price is too high, people may not buy it, however good the value is.

[lansalt]

I think the box set price will not be as expensive as people are fearing. The beakies clearly will come in 8 sprues with 5 marines each very similar to the ETB assault intercessors from Indomitus. They should be cheaper (in GW terms) than the comparisions with multipart squad kits I've seen, just look at the Recruit Starter set.

[Marshal Loss]

I think the box set price will not be as expensive as people are fearing. The beakies clearly will come in 8 sprues with 5 marines each very similar to the ETB assault intercessors from Indomitus. They should be cheaper (in GW terms) than the comparisions with multipart squad kits I've seen, just look at the Recruit Starter set.

These are full kits though, not ETB, and they will likely be valued accordingly.

[WrathOfTheLion]

I think anyone that was claiming prices weeks or months ago was postulating at best. If we look at other stuff that leaked, from Indomitus, to Dominion, to even the current stuff, to even Ash Wastes before we saw it on the trade price document, GW guards prices pretty closely.

 

So I don't know what it'll be priced at, just that I doubt the numbers out and about. Given basic inspection, they are almost certainly false.

Edited April 30, 2022 by WrathOfTheLion

[Marshal Mittens]

I think anyone that was claiming prices weeks or months ago was postulating at best. If we look at other stuff that leaked, from Indomitus, to Dominion, to even the current stuff, to even Ash Wastes before we saw it on the trade price document, GW guards prices pretty closely.

 

So I don't know what it'll be priced at, just that I doubt the numbers out and about. Given basic inspection, they are almost certainly false.

Hopefully the numbers floating around are false. I hope it's really like $250 to $300 USD.

[WrathOfTheLion]

 

I think anyone that was claiming prices weeks or months ago was postulating at best. If we look at other stuff that leaked, from Indomitus, to Dominion, to even the current stuff, to even Ash Wastes before we saw it on the trade price document, GW guards prices pretty closely.

 

So I don't know what it'll be priced at, just that I doubt the numbers out and about. Given basic inspection, they are almost certainly false.

Hopefully the numbers floating around are false. I hope it's really like $250 to $300 USD.

 

My personal guess is somewhere between $300 and $350 USD, but it could be lower. It's not going to be Indomitus priced, but I think they're going to lead it out more competitive as the tradeoff for more sales in the future as folks buy into the system. When Indomitus was coming out, many people also overshot the price on that.

 

Given that things like the templates and dice all look like existing ones (existing scatter die, same orange templates from Necromunda, plain white dice), I think they're not going to have optimized stuff like that if they're going to blow out the price, they would instead make them a bit fancier to encourage those that already would bite the bullet to be more enticed. Clearly on the peripherals they're cutting down price on basic observation.

 

That's my current observations, although that could be wrong.

Edited April 30, 2022 by WrathOfTheLion

[SkimaskMohawk]

I think anyone that was claiming prices weeks or months ago was postulating at best. If we look at other stuff that leaked, from Indomitus, to Dominion, to even the current stuff, to even Ash Wastes before we saw it on the trade price document, GW guards prices pretty closely.

 

So I don't know what it'll be priced at, just that I doubt the numbers out and about. Given basic inspection, they are almost certainly false.

They definitely were lol. The original rumour was from naftka in November and got laughed out. Then it got reposted on Reddit and got traction, even though the guy is apparently a known liar (as is naftka).

 

Like of it's true it's true, but there's already contention about whether naftkas name for the box is right or if it's a different name. And that they've always just made up stuff based on guess work instead of...actually having leaks given to them.

[WrathOfTheLion]

 

I think anyone that was claiming prices weeks or months ago was postulating at best. If we look at other stuff that leaked, from Indomitus, to Dominion, to even the current stuff, to even Ash Wastes before we saw it on the trade price document, GW guards prices pretty closely.

 

So I don't know what it'll be priced at, just that I doubt the numbers out and about. Given basic inspection, they are almost certainly false.

They definitely were lol. The original rumour was from naftka in November and got laughed out. Then it got reposted on Reddit and got traction, even though the guy is apparently a known liar (as is naftka).

 

Like of it's true it's true, but there's already contention about whether naftkas name for the box is right or if it's a different name. And that they've always just made up stuff based on guess work instead of...actually having leaks given to them.

 

Yeah, I know we saw them a long time ago, nafka might've even been posting prices before last November. My point there is less on the credibility of nafka, whom I ignore for the most part, but overarching that anybody posting prices is almost certainly making things up, as I don't remember ever seeing prices actually leaked early, at least since I've been paying attention, except by actual retailers relatively close to drop date. Contents, entire books, miniatures, yes, but never prices.

 

For all we know, prices are not totally finalized until some interim right before they're sent to the retailers. They almost certainly weren't finalized in November.

Edited May 1, 2022 by WrathOfTheLion

[Noserenda]

Given the extensive delays its entirely possible there was a fixed price in November, though honestly if anything it will have gone up since! I think a lot of that set of rumours is nonsense based on some of the other stuff going on or what ive heard, like an actual GW employee balking at the (50% discounted) price, well, only buying one rather than the three sets he had planned but still :D 

[TheTrans]

So we've seen how little plastic we get in the Necro box and its price is pretty bloody high, with a hard back rulebook! 

Down here in OZ we're paying almost double what people in the UK are paying for the necro box, so the prospect if this box being well into the 6-700s is not a big jump. 

If its cheap, great, but if it does have the 2 Praetors, 40 beakies, spartan, dread, 10 termies and the gaming gear... its gonna be rough gang. 

[Petitioner's City]

Natfka isn't a liar, Skimask, he just posts anything he gets or sees - that's been his MO for over a decade, it's what makes his site useful and also not useful. That's what makes him unreliable, but sometimes accurate (as he quotes another source which might be good or is contacted in occasion by someone useful).

 

However, generally people won't contact him directly; for a while the kind of information Natfka published was shot when GW started. Then we've seen the emergence of new ways for leaks to occur/be placed in recent years, which don't rely on the old sites (Natfka, b&c, etc). Instead they just get placed on social media now, and end up getting picked up by the older ones, accurate or not.

 

I wouldn't call him a liar, more unfiltered/uncritical

[Karhedron]

As long as it is up-front about it, I think there is value in presenting all the leaks and rumours unfiltered and letting people draw their own conclusions.

 

Generally speaking I am in favour of a bit of editorial filtering but we are talking about toy soldiers rather than serious political issues so let the hype train roll!

[Chaeron]

I mean, yeah, I get that value is subjective, but from a pure points based perspective, business end of 2,000pts (by current calculations) for the £200 bracket isn't anything to sniff at when it comes to 30k, at all. 

 

I echo this Balthamal: the box could be split into two potential halves as the painted image shows, or used as a singular force with most of the common elements that Heresy players utilise. By all accounts, compared to the days of us slowly building up our resin Tacticals in packs of five it'll represent a good bundle that could be a positive starter force for most Legions!

 

Whatever the pricing turns out to be, it'll be subjectively received: I think if you can utilise most - or all - of the items in the box, it'll naturally be a more desirable purchase. I'd hope to get hold of one and would have some lovely plans for it too!

[SkimaskMohawk]

Natfka isn't a liar, Skimask, he just posts anything he gets or sees - that's been his MO for over a decade, it's what makes his site useful and also not useful. That's what makes him unreliable, but sometimes accurate (as he quotes another source which might be good or is contacted in occasion by someone useful).

 

However, generally people won't contact him directly; for a while the kind of information Natfka published was shot when GW started. Then we've seen the emergence of new ways for leaks to occur/be placed in recent years, which don't rely on the old sites (Natfka, b&c, etc). Instead they just get placed on social media now, and end up getting picked up by the older ones, accurate or not.

 

I wouldn't call him a liar, more unfiltered/uncritical

Edited May 2, 2022 by SkimaskMohawk