wulfgar hammerfist Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I have been away from the game for a bit. Given the changes brought about by AoC, is a terminator heavy list viable? I came into a lot of terminators for cheap and I'm thinking of building around them. What is the general consensus of their viability in a competitive setting? Thanks! Havok13 and TiguriusX 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 about to start a saga testing AOC terminators first game tomorrow wulfgar hammerfist, Havok13 and WrathOfTheLion 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5821454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Combi weapons and claws seem cheap but potent. A couple of chain fists for AP-4. Lead with a Rune Priest (possibly also in TDA) for casting Stormcaller and Cloaked by the Storm. A couple of squads like that will be harder to shift than curry stains on a white shirt. TiguriusX, wulfgar hammerfist, Lord Ragnarok and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5821480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfgar hammerfist Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 That's generally what I was thinking of for equipment: combi-meltas, claws and a few chain fists. I'm on the fence with the RP. They've always been iffy for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5821484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Combi weapons and claws seem cheap but potent. A couple of chain fists for AP-4. Lead with a Rune Priest (possibly also in TDA) for casting Stormcaller and Cloaked by the Storm. A couple of squads like that will be harder to shift than curry stains on a white shirt. Ohhh how this is known from personal experience! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5823672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Kind of a few Termie threads going but the magic combo I believe is a mixture: I'm doing mostly Chainfists, a couple of Combi Melta, and claws for filler. No shields anymore obviously, and no hammers anymore (unfortunately). Only the strat for 6's= +1 AP in the assault phase could make hammers work now imho, BUT I still think a single squad of hammers, somewhere in your army to use that combo could still be effective. But perhaps Termies aren't that unit? Maybe Hammers are better on TWC, or something else. It's a bit too much work to make more than one squad work imho. plus we know now that CP might get spread out a bit more which may also change the combo. (coming in Nephilm). XeonDragon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5823815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Kind of a few Termie threads going but the magic combo I believe is a mixture: I'm doing mostly Chainfists, a couple of Combi Melta, and claws for filler. No shields anymore obviously, and no hammers anymore (unfortunately). Only the strat for 6's= +1 AP in the assault phase could make hammers work now imho, BUT I still think a single squad of hammers, somewhere in your army to use that combo could still be effective. But perhaps Termies aren't that unit? Maybe Hammers are better on TWC, or something else. It's a bit too much work to make more than one squad work imho. plus we know now that CP might get spread out a bit more which may also change the combo. (coming in Nephilm). Wulfen are the main TH delivery system bc they dont have access to higher AP They compensate with S10 and swinging on death A smash lord with a damage 4 TH may be worth it for the raw damage output Karhedron, BLACK BLΠFLY, Prot and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5823835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 I've been juggling the idea of Hammers or Frost Axes for Wulfen. The AP on the axes will be great, and at least it's 2 damage. The Hammers are still tempting though, but just probably won't hit as often so it's hard to say for me at this point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5824297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yan Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Wulfen are the main TH delivery system bc they dont have access to higher AP They compensate with S10 and swinging on death A smash lord with a damage 4 TH may be worth it for the raw damage output How do you make a damage 4 TH? Edited May 8, 2022 by yan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5825070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Wulfen are the main TH delivery system bc they dont have access to higher AP They compensate with S10 and swinging on death A smash lord with a damage 4 TH may be worth it for the raw damage output How do you make a damage 4 TH? master crafed weapon uses a relic slot Prot and yan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5825128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 My few games after AOC have shown that Wulfen, TWC and WG termies are definitely not just viable but actually worth taking. I have always liked chainfists and now there is no reason not to take them. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5825786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfgar hammerfist Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 Here's the list I have been kicking around in my head. I'm still shy 225 points so I am open to suggestions as to how to fill out the points. It is all theory at this point, so I am open to recommendations for changes. Vanguard Detachment Born Heroes, Whirlwind of Rage Primaris Chaplain on Bike Warlord, Warrior of Legend, Wise Orator, Hunter, Mantra of Strength, Canticle of Hate, Benediction of Fury Librarian Chief Librarian, Jump Pack, Force Sword, Instincts Awoken, Storm Caller, Hero of the Chapter, Rites of War 5 Wolf Guard Jump Packs, Double Lightning Claws 5 Wolf Guard Jump Packs, Double Lightning Claws 5 Wolf Guard Jump Packs, Double Lightning Claws 10 Wolf Guard Terminators 10 Chainfists, 10 Storm Bolters 5 Wulfen 1x Wulfen Frost Claws, 4x Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield 5 Wulfen 1x Wulfen Frost Claws, 4x Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield 5 Long Fangs 4x Multi-melta 5 Long Fangs 4x Grav-cannon Drop Pod 1775, 7 CP currently Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374014-wolf-guard-terminators/#findComment-5825877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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