War Zone Nephelim: Grand Tournament Rules impact.

[KnightofSigismund]

So reading the command point change on the new tournament season package that was previewed, got me thinking that our Crusaders are actually in a pretty damn good place considering how other armies need tons of command points at the beginning and we really don’t need as much. I Would love to know everybody’s thoughts and opinions on this upcoming change.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

I don’t tend to use a lot of cp the first two turns so it’s good for me.

[KnightofSigismund]

That’s me as well, revered repositories and maybe one other thing I’m good til later rounds.

[CrystalSeer]

So reading the command point change on the new tournament season package that was previewed, got me thinking that our Crusaders are actually in a pretty damn good place considering how other armies need tons of command points at the beginning and we really don’t need as much. I Would love to know everybody’s thoughts and opinions on this upcoming change.

Mind giving a summary?

[KnightofSigismund]

I’ll take revered repositories, and relics of the chapter and that’ll be the only three I end up spending til around turn two, sometimes turn three. It’s not that way every game but often enough that I don’t think I’ll feel like getting my cp reduced upfront after all my usual things will be a big issue for me. We will still get the same amount of cp I think with this, we just won’t start with it all up front to spend.

[Casual Heresy]

With the version of my list I working on for my next tournament I'm only spending two pregame (additional warlord trait, and a relic contemptor), with no plans to spend points in earnest until turn 2 onwards so I will hopefully be in a good position.

[Khornestar]

I’ve heard more negative takes regarding potentially fewer upgrades for characters/sergeants due to this.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

I’ve heard more negative takes regarding potentially fewer upgrades for characters/sergeants due to this.

That could be an issue.

[Medjugorje]

I dont use that much CPs in the start. Alpha Strikes are not a part of how I think 40k makes fun. But if Uphold is not important anymore and now our secound strength could be taken away  I have a bad feeling about this.

 

Sword of Judgment + at least 2 WL-Traits + at least 2 Relics + Feast of Blades Champion Strat are 4 CPs. I want to use that still.

[SkimaskMohawk]

I don’t tend to use a lot of cp the first two turns so it’s good for me.

I know I use push or Obsec every turn, transhuman quite often, 4+ deny against psykers, and bombastic delivery fairly often as well.

 

And that's not taking multiple warlord traits and Feast into account either.

[Tokugawa]

CP reduce is to every faction. Since templars could comfortably take a batallion, if we start the game with 2CP, your 2 patrols opponent may with 0CP.

 

But the problem is BT has no effective CP farmer. We need something like a litany with content of "gain 1 CP".

[Medjugorje]

normally there are just 3 detachments possible. The highest price is 3 CP for Detachment - one is normally for free so I think you will start with 6.

6 are enough to have 2 additional WL-Traits + 2 additional Relics and Sword of Judgement and Feast of Blades Strat. 

Even then you will gain one CP in the start of your turn. I think our lists does not have to change for that but honestly I dont think that it prevents alpha strikes that much TOO.