Have the reveals changed which legion you plan to start?

[Marshal Mittens]

I put my half painted Space Wolves army away because the way I wanted to play them seems to be neefed to the ground or simply not possible since units disapeared.

I wanted them to have Javelins, who got nerfed, a scorpion, who got nerfed, two legion dreadnoughts, who got scraped etc pp. Horrible.

Rules change, cool models are forever! If you love painting them, maybe consider finishing them?

[Reldn]

The XVIIth is my main Legion, so, I'm really looking forward to expanding on them. No change there.

 

However, I'm tempted to do a small force of a different legion. Just not sure which one! There's too many of them that I really like.

[Gorgoff]

 

I put my half painted Space Wolves army away because the way I wanted to play them seems to be neefed to the ground or simply not possible since units disapeared.

I wanted them to have Javelins, who got nerfed, a scorpion, who got nerfed, two legion dreadnoughts, who got scraped etc pp. Horrible.

Rules change, cool models are forever! If you love painting them, maybe consider finishing them?

I HATE painting with a passion. It is hands down the worst part of the Hobby and I force myself to do it only because unpaited looks :cuss so I do it.

GW now destroying the army I wanted to play completely took away any motivation to go through this exhausting process, so no.

Won't happen for a very long time.

 

Edit: I've forgotten that I also bought and build a HSS with Plasma Cannons, which also got nerfed.

My Plan for the army was, that the javelins do the heavy lifting killing vehicles, which got nerfed, supported by the scorpion, which got nerfed, to allow my HSS to attack infantry, which got nerfed as well, with some deep striking units, which popp up on different locations to cause chaos and destruction. Now guess what? That also doesn't work anymore because for some stupid reason it is all units on one spot or none all of the sudden so :cuss that plan as well.

Basically every idea I had for this army got torn to pieces and now I have 3000 points of not working garbage at my hand and would need to reinvest more money to make it even workable. I didn't want to minmax or anything but getting the finger on basically all units you plan on bringing is a huge bummer to say the last.

Edited May 22, 2022 by Gorgoff

[SkimaskMohawk]

I'll say that while javelins got nerfed, they're still quite good. Multi meltas can actually threaten anything in the game now that armoured ceramite bit the dust.

 

And you have to deepstrike in a localized clump, because you can charge off of it. That's a pretty obvious one.

 

Still doesn't help the list; your anti infantry is a lot less reliable. Though I guess everyone's is now.

[Gorgoff]

I'll say that while javelins got nerfed, they're still quite good. Multi meltas can actually threaten anything in the game now that armoured ceramite bit the dust.

 

And you have to deepstrike in a localized clump, because you can charge off of it. That's a pretty obvious one.

 

Still doesn't help the list; your anti infantry is a lot less reliable. Though I guess everyone's is now.

I mean I also have over ten terminators and those got buffed.* So... Postponed is not canceled.

At some point I will have a look at them again, but for now it is IW for me. The old reliable.

And my DG. Funny enough I printed and build some of them before the next edition was more than just rumors and now they seem pretty nice.

 

*Edit: They took away the option for Power Axes?!? As if someone in GW hates me, for real. At least half of my SW terminators have Power Axes and ALL Cataphractii in my IW army.

Edited May 22, 2022 by Gorgoff

[BitsHammer]

V3 leaks have power weapons on the sheet, so it's possible the box only used a limited datasheet.

[Marshal Mittens]

V3 leaks have power weapons on the sheet, so it's possible the box only used a limited datasheet.

I imagine it's 100% that this is the case.

[TheFirstKnight]

Absolutely; I’m now not doing a second legion and am now doubling down on my White Scars ☺️

[Gorgoff]

V3 leaks have power weapons on the sheet, so it's possible the box only used a limited datasheet.

I should stop reading rumors then. That just angers me for no reason. ;)

[Arkhanist]

V3 leaks have power weapons on the sheet, so it's possible the box only used a limited datasheet.

Given a number of the weapons seem to have different profiles in the pack-in list compared to the v3 leaks, and they're specifically superceded by the later army books, I too think it's likely they're just 'get-you-by' rules - it's fairly normal that pack-in sheets don't match up with the full range of options from the codex etc.

 

Plus forgeworld are still selling the cataphractii power axe upgrade set; given all the other resin that got yanked in preparation for 2.0, It'd be a bit weird for them to be obsolete yet still available.

 

Personally, I'm hoping the 5 points for a chainsword on tacs in the v3 leaks does drop a bit (I have a bunch of tactical bolter WE  - with added chainaxes, of course). Compared to despoilers, you're effectively paying a 50% of the unit cost premium for a bolter and fury of the legion which seems a bit excessive. Otherwise I guess I could repurpose them as bolter vets or I'll need a bunch more melee arms.

Edited May 22, 2022 by Arkhanist

[Gorgoff]

 

 

V3 leaks have power weapons on the sheet, so it's possible the box only used a limited datasheet.

Given a number of the weapons seem to have different profiles in the pack-in list compared to the v3 leaks, and they're specifically superceded by the later army books, I too think it's likely they're just 'get-you-by' rules - it's fairly normal that pack-in sheets don't match up with the full range of options from the codex etc.

 

Plus forgeworld are still selling the cataphractii power axe upgrade set; given all the other resin that got yanked in preparation for 2.0, It'd be a bit weird for them to be obsolete yet still available.

 

Personally, I'm hoping the 5 points for a chainsword on tacs in the v3 leaks does drop a bit (I have a bunch of tactical bolter WE - with added chainaxes, of course). Compared to despoilers, you're effectively paying a 50% of the unit cost premium for a bolter and fury of the legion which seems a bit excessive. Otherwise I guess I could repurpose them as bolter vets or I'll need a bunch more melee arms.

Ah that, yes, I remember reading this little gold nugget.

I've built my humble SW tactical Support Squad with Volkite Chargers with additional chainswords in mind and instead of actual swords I took the liberty and gave them sci-fi chainaxes because "Space vikings theme".

Apparently they added an option for SW now to upgrade chainswords to Scifi axes for 2 points each....

In short: my (cheap) tss went up 70 points. ;)

And I build a squad of veterans with machine killer in mind which also got deleted. :)

Oh and anyone has an educated guess what my Speaker of the Dead has attached to his left arm? I give you a hint:

It rhymes with "unrewarding revealed". ;)

Someone really don't want me to play SW.

Edited May 23, 2022 by Gorgoff

[Brother Kraskor]

 

 

V3 leaks have power weapons on the sheet, so it's possible the box only used a limited datasheet.

Given a number of the weapons seem to have different profiles in the pack-in list compared to the v3 leaks, and they're specifically superceded by the later army books, I too think it's likely they're just 'get-you-by' rules - it's fairly normal that pack-in sheets don't match up with the full range of options from the codex etc.

 

Plus forgeworld are still selling the cataphractii power axe upgrade set; given all the other resin that got yanked in preparation for 2.0, It'd be a bit weird for them to be obsolete yet still available.

 

Personally, I'm hoping the 5 points for a chainsword on tacs in the v3 leaks does drop a bit (I have a bunch of tactical bolter WE - with added chainaxes, of course). Compared to despoilers, you're effectively paying a 50% of the unit cost premium for a bolter and fury of the legion which seems a bit excessive. Otherwise I guess I could repurpose them as bolter vets or I'll need a bunch more melee arms.

Ah that, yes, I remember reading this little gold nugget.

I've built my humble SW tactical Support Squad with Volkite Chargers with additional chainswords in mind and instead of actual swords I took the liberty and gave them sci-fi chainaxes because "Space vikings theme".

Apparently they added an option for SW now to upgrade chainswords to Scifi axes for 2 points each....

In short: my (cheap) tss went up 70 points.

And I build a squad of veterans with machine killer in mind which also got deleted.

Oh and anyone has an educated guess what my Speaker of the Dead has attached to his left arm? I give you a hint:

It rhymes with "unrewarding revealed".

Someone really don't want me to play SW.

 

 

I'd say it's unlikely that the designers went round to your house, checked what you've built, and then set out to nerf it just to piss you off. They seem to have succeeded if that was their intention mind.

[BitsHammer]

 

 

 

 

V3 leaks have power weapons on the sheet, so it's possible the box only used a limited datasheet.

Given a number of the weapons seem to have different profiles in the pack-in list compared to the v3 leaks, and they're specifically superceded by the later army books, I too think it's likely they're just 'get-you-by' rules - it's fairly normal that pack-in sheets don't match up with the full range of options from the codex etc.

 

Plus forgeworld are still selling the cataphractii power axe upgrade set; given all the other resin that got yanked in preparation for 2.0, It'd be a bit weird for them to be obsolete yet still available.

 

Personally, I'm hoping the 5 points for a chainsword on tacs in the v3 leaks does drop a bit (I have a bunch of tactical bolter WE - with added chainaxes, of course). Compared to despoilers, you're effectively paying a 50% of the unit cost premium for a bolter and fury of the legion which seems a bit excessive. Otherwise I guess I could repurpose them as bolter vets or I'll need a bunch more melee arms.

Ah that, yes, I remember reading this little gold nugget.

I've built my humble SW tactical Support Squad with Volkite Chargers with additional chainswords in mind and instead of actual swords I took the liberty and gave them sci-fi chainaxes because "Space vikings theme".

Apparently they added an option for SW now to upgrade chainswords to Scifi axes for 2 points each....

In short: my (cheap) tss went up 70 points.

And I build a squad of veterans with machine killer in mind which also got deleted.

Oh and anyone has an educated guess what my Speaker of the Dead has attached to his left arm? I give you a hint:

It rhymes with "unrewarding revealed".

Someone really don't want me to play SW.

I'd say it's unlikely that the designers went round to your house, checked what you've built, and then set out to nerf it just to piss you off. They seem to have succeeded if that was their intention mind.

This. Anyone who had models invalidated was collateral, not an intentional target.

[Corswain]

 

I'd say it's unlikely that the designers went round to your house, checked what you've built, and then set out to nerf it just to piss you off. They seem to have succeeded if that was their intention mind.

I dont know...... If I was a game designer at GW (which I'm not) and the vindictive sort (which I am), then I might be tempted to do exactly that to my mates - "you know that squad of veterans who wiped me out last game? Well......." ;)

 

Probably why GW keeps rejecting my applications. :)

[General Strike]

To answer the original question, yeah. The Space Wolves legion article and new how to paint video made mechanicus standard grey the base, which is my favorite paint. It is such a pleasing color to me. It brought me around. I really need to read the books.

[WrathOfTheLion]

To answer the original question, yeah. The Space Wolves legion article and new how to paint video made mechanicus standard grey the base, which is my favorite paint. It is such a pleasing color to me. It brought me around. I really need to read the books.

I like that paint too, but I've already done too many in Dawnstone, I don't want to repaint my stuff :D

[Gederas]

I'm contemplating Ultramarines just to troll the owner of my FLGS

[Felix Antipodes]

Not yet.  I’m still planning on Imperial Fists but will wait until I see the HH 2.0 BRB before fully committing.

[Gorgoff]

I'd say it's unlikely that the designers went round to your house, checked what you've built, and then set out to nerf it just to piss you off. They seem to have succeeded if that was their intention mind.

Hmmmm, that sounds exactly what someone would say who is part of this conspiracy...

[Claws and Effect]

Nope.

 

Sticking with my Raven Guard. If anything, the knowledge that they will have traitor rules makes me even less inclined to start a new Legion at all (I was considering Alpha Legion so I'd have an army for both sides).

[Canadian_F_H]

Not at all. I have no plans to start a new legion. I plan to double down on my Iron Warriors, and I will likely add whatever I need to make my black templars work in 30k as well. Imperial fists Templar brethren already being thouroughly doable as is.

[BitsHammer]

Well it's been a while and now I've got Curze, both FW praetors, 10 NL Terminators and 10 Raptors on order along with a couple sets of Chainglaives, so I'm going to say "no", I'm still in bat country.

[jaxom]

will wait until I see the HH 2.0 BRB before fully committing.

That’s my stance, too. I want to see if Allie’s got any big changes, rites that allow Allie’s, and if there will be any rumors of Shattered Legion rules.

[infyrana]

 

will wait until I see the HH 2.0 BRB before fully committing.

That’s my stance, too. I want to see if Allie’s got any big changes, rites that allow Allie’s, and if there will be any rumors of Shattered Legion rules.

 

Despite having decided pretty heavily on my approach with the newboxset for HH 2.0 for a change of legion, I do struggle with shifting from my original legion because I just enjoy everytime I see models painted in the scheme.  But I wanted a change so I could run the units I'd like to with rules better suited - such as having seen the reveals of the IF Stone Guantlet RoW, which has always caught my eye along with their rules for shield users and Pollux, I just don't want to run the legion or their colours. I'm thinking it could be a good idea to wait for the Liber Astartes to check the legion specific rules I had considered.  If we are missing a lot of the legion special characters and units from HH 1.0, could be an issue for me.

 

I think the change of legion is the right way to go for me and the rules should be pretty damn solid, it's the little bits that are tinkering with my decision making.

[RandomMarine]

If we are getting Blackshields rules I'm gonna do Ashen Claws and if not then it'll be Amit's Company of the Blood Angels