TiguriusX Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Time for a new test I pivoted from terminators to aggressors...fists have higher AP and I like T5 in this meta I have a unit of 6 so I can guarantee RND if I arrive from reserves I am also testing scorpion characters...the Northern Front SW group swears by them in successor lists Pod 20 Round 1 v Sisters Map-Abandoned Sanctuaries My army ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [99 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selector**: Born Heroes , Red Scorpions, Space Wolves Successor, Whirlwind of Rage Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost + Stratagems + A Trophy Bestowed [-1CP] Thane of the Retinue [-1CP] + Agents of the Imperium + Culexus Assassin [5 PL, 100pts]: Animus Speculum, Psyk-out Grenades + HQ + Casan Sabius [8 PL, 145pts]: Blade of the Scorpion, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades Chaplain [7 PL, -1CP, 140pts]: 2. Catechism of Fire, 5. Recitation of Focus, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Crozius arcanum, Frag & Krak grenades, Hunter, Jump Pack, Litany of Hate, Power fist, Stratagem: Warrior of Legend, The Armour of Russ, Warlord, Wise Orator Sevrin Loth [7 PL, 135pts]: 2. Murderous Hurricane, 5. Storm Caller, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, The Magister's Axe + Troops + Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts] . 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades . Incursor Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Occulus bolt carbine, Paired combat blades Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 120pts] . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Marksman bolt carbine Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 120pts] . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Marksman bolt carbine + Elites + Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 270pts]: 5x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher: 2x Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets, Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 200pts]: 2x Flamestorm Gauntlets, 4x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant Wulfen [6 PL, 145pts] . Wulfen Pack Leader: Wulfen Frost claws . 4x Wulfen w/ thunder hammer & storm shield: 4x Storm Shield, 4x Thunder Hammer + Fast Attack + Cyberwolves [1 PL, 15pts] . Cyberwolf: Teeth and claws Cyberwolves [1 PL, 15pts] . Cyberwolf: Teeth and claws + Heavy Support + Eradicator Squad [7 PL, 150pts]: Heavy melta rifle . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol . Eradicator Sgt: Bolt pistol Long Fangs [7 PL, 175pts]: Armorium Cherub . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Morkai's Teeth Bolts . . Boltgun and Bolt Pistol: Bolt pistol, Boltgun + Dedicated Transport + Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter ++ Total: [99 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) His army ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adepta Sororitas) [102 PL, 8CP, 1,999pts] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Order Convictions: Order: Bloody Rose + Stratagems + Stratagem: Open the Reliquaries [-2CP]: 2x Additional Relics of the Ecclesiarchy + No Force Org Slot + Hospitaller [3 PL, -1CP, 50pts]: Relic: Book of St. Lucius, Stratagem: Saint in the Making, Warlord Trait: 5. Indomitable Belief (Aura) Repentia Superior [2 PL, 40pts] + HQ + Canoness [4 PL, -1CP, 85pts]: Blessed Blade, Bolt pistol, Relic: Chaplet of Sacrifice, Stratagem: Saint in the Making, Warlord Trait: Blazing Ire . Rapturous Blows Morvenn Vahl [14 PL, 280pts]: Warlord + Troops + Battle Sister Squad [3 PL, 55pts] . 4x Battle Sister: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sister Superior . . Bolt Pistol & Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [3 PL, 55pts] . 4x Battle Sister: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sister Superior . . Bolt Pistol & Boltgun Sisters Novitiate Squad [4 PL, 80pts] . Novitiate Superior . . Bolt Pistol and Power Sword: Power sword . 9x Sister Novitiate (Melee Weapon): 9x Auto Pistol, 9x Frag & Krak grenades, 9x Novitiate Melee Weapons + Elites + Celestian Sacresants [8 PL, 117pts] . 6x Celestian Sacresant (Anointed Halberd): 6x Anointed Halberd, 6x Bolt pistol, 6x Frag & Krak grenades . Sacresant Superior: Bolt pistol, Spear of the Faithful Crusaders [2 PL, 33pts] . 3x Crusaders: 3x Power sword Dogmata [4 PL, 65pts]: 2. Chorus of Spiritual Fortitude, 4. Litany of Enduring Faith, Relic: The Sigil Ecclesiasticus Sisters Repentia [6 PL, 98pts] . 7x Sisters Repentia: 7x Penitent Eviscerator Sisters Repentia [6 PL, 98pts] . 7x Sisters Repentia: 7x Penitent Eviscerator Sisters Repentia [6 PL, 98pts] . 7x Sisters Repentia: 7x Penitent Eviscerator + Fast Attack + Seraphim Squad [4 PL, 90pts] . 2x Seraphim: 4x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades . Seraphim Superior: Bolt pistol, Bolt pistol . Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Ministorum Hand Flamers . Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Ministorum Hand Flamers Zephyrim Squad [4 PL, 85pts] . 4x Zephyrim: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Power sword . Zephyrim Superior: Bolt pistol Zephyrim Squad [4 PL, 85pts] . 4x Zephyrim: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Power sword . Zephyrim Superior: Bolt pistol + Heavy Support + Mortifiers [3 PL, 65pts] . Mortifiers: Anchorite Sarcophagus, 2x Heavy bolter, 2x Penitent Flails Retributor Squad [9 PL, 220pts]: 2x Armourium Cherub . 4x Retributor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Retributor Superior . . Bolt Pistol & Boltgun . Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta . Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta . Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta . Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta . Retributor w/ Simulacrum Retributor Squad [9 PL, 220pts]: 2x Armourium Cherub . 4x Retributor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Retributor Superior . . Bolt Pistol & Boltgun . Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta . Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta . Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta . Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta . Retributor w/ Simulacrum + Dedicated Transport + Sororitas Rhino [4 PL, 80pts] ++ Total: [102 PL, 8CP, 1,999pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) Pregame & Deployment Map has decent LOS blocking so I can fight over the middle well I don't like that he outguns me at long range. Need to be careful I pick Stranglehold RND Oath He picks Stranglehold RND Leap of faith I reserve Aggressor-Bolters He reserves Seraphyn Zeph Rhino holds repentia + crusader Flame aggressors on right flank Wulfen on left flank Infiltrators on each side to stop his reserve tricks and deny his RND BATREP He gets 1st turn WOO HOO!!! He pushes up safely Only 1 crusader reaches middle My turn Left flank culexus and wulfen move up to threaten objective next turn I push wolf and LS into middle to guarantee I get stranglehold Right wolf runs onto right objective Right LS goes into corner to zone out Eradicators back up to get shots on crusader I put up storm caller and MH goes on novitiates on left objective Right LS kills mortifier with HB...didn't expect that! Eradicators kill 1 crusader LS kills remaining crusaders after CP to reroll a failed wound *best LS shooting phase ever...they usually do nothing I score stranglehold with minimal risk and the trading of units has begun Turn 2 Left flank sisters run forward and repentia get buffed and come out looking for my wulfen Middle he sends in 1 repentia from the rhino and retributor1 Right flank he pushes up with sacrasants and retributor2 He rolls 6 with zephyr RND attempt and fails Transhuman only stops 1 wound and he meltas my eradicators to death This exposes my CM (oops) I have to burn a CP but he survives the mistake He makes all charges right flank Left flank he charges culexus only and avoids wulfen (he thought long and hard how to hurt me and decided he would make me spend CP to heroic and get me...I was like uh nope...have fun with the assassin) I HI the incursors instead to get free safe movement forward Repentia whiff and do 0 damage to culexus (I make all 4 4++) Culexus kills 2 repentia in return LS explodes but he saves the MW Far right wolf dies and he consolidates around it My turn Time to counter attack hard Chaplain auto chants reroll all hits Flame aggressors go into assault doctrine LF get CM rerolls I bring on aggressors left flank to clean up repentia Assassin falls back (this doesn't stop oath...he isn't astartes) Wulfen chill 1" behind the wall for next turn Incursors push up the middle between his blockers LS2 hops to middle on objective Flamers move up to charge retributors and flame repentia in middle Chaplain jumps in with aggressors LS3 pushes up to shut down retributor OW and help with charging MH denied on a 6...doh LF fire at his middle retributors He makes 3/5 5++ saves against LF Cherub pops and LF kills 2 more...only 5/10 and he plans to rezz...doh Bolt aggressors kill repentia on left flank real easy I take a ton of shooting to clear middle repentia but get the job done with 2 flame aggressors in range I also kill 2 sacrasants with flamers (fishing for him to roll 1s basically) I make all charges except bolt aggressors out of reserve Key here is LS multi charging sacrsants and retributors...this prevents him from using HI I activate LS and consolidate away from sacrasants to leave them doing nothing The sacrasants can HI so I had to nufflify them 21 fists land on retributors and after miracle dice and CP shenanigans I just barely kill 10 retributors off the objective to steal it I get stranglehold I am also down to 2 CP after burning all my tricks -keen senses on LF -assault doctrine on flame aggressors -auto chant chaplain -shock and awe from LS to shut down overwatch Turn 3 Can I take his counter punch? He raises 2 retributors...doh My LF roll a 6 for every MM wound...the emperor protects!!! Canoness kills 4/5 Aggressors I use last 2 CP to interrupt and swing at sacrasants Roll a bunch of 1s and 2s...but I kill 1 Zephyr only do 1 damage to him b/c too far away to get tons of attacks 1 aggressor lives!! Chaplain maaaaybe survives if he gets lucky He gets 3 6's with his PF and kills sacrasants! Vahl only kills 1 incursor and has to use special ability to finish them off My turn I put CM rerolls on pink infiltrators but forget the scorpion special rule (new list...doh) Chaplain fails to roll reroll all hits Aggressors walk up and shoot sisters in rear killing 2 I fail to make 8" charge into novitiates He saves 5/6 against my MM (turn about is fair play) Infiltrators kill 4/5 zephrym with savage strike (would have been all 5 with scorpion rule....UGGG) I kill vahl with wulfen Take nothing significant in swing back Turn 4 2/5 Wulfen die to retributor melta + bolters Infiltrators and incursors die in melee His repentia character fails charge into wulfen b/c I lost too many Wulfen fail morale and 1 remains Good news is my chaplain punches himself free of combat with the zephyr My turn 2 LS and chaplain go flying into his backfield Chaplain rolled a 6 for advance I can take away his objective easy now I need the aggressors to go wild They dissapoint and fail to wipe his repentia with bolters I multi charge and dedicate 2 aggressors to repentia and 4 to novitiates After miracle dice and CP stress I wipe BOTH squads to clear his obsec and take the point My shooting is bad...his retributors save 3/5 MM I mop them up in melee with CM The librarian kills 1 seraphym and ties them up too The HQs do their job and secure the middle Wulfen smashes his repentia HQ then hugs rhino Assassin does the same Turn 5 We talk it out b/c I get final scoring and he can't stop it Final & Recap 84-79 SW victory!!! This list is decent in the trading game on this map Plenty of LS and cyber wolves to throw out if I can hide behind walls I definitely missed our default successor tricks...I was forgetting double exploding 6's in the game I have to remember the CM and his +1 attack trick in the future...it would have been huge if I used it Dr_Ruminahui, Harald Fairmane, Prot and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Very nice. I’m still not sure if I am as sold on Aggressors over Termies as you are, but I see the value here. Also SoB got a tremendous boost from AoC as well (some say more than marines). So it’s no easy match up. Great job. TiguriusX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5828143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpwyrm Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 A good first battle for this list. I was a little skeptical on the Aggressors durability, but it looks like they can hold their own. I was also surprised you kept the flamer aggressors on the board considering their slow speed, but it did not look like this was an issue at all. In fact, all that make me wonder if Assault Centurions could be viable too. They do suffer from the lack of the Core keyword, but otherwise they are essentially Boltstorm and Flamer Aggressors combined into one unit. A single three-man unit is about the same cost as your five-man Flamer Agressors but would have a smaller footprint but a much better shooting output. What do you think? TiguriusX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5829473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 A good first battle for this list. I was a little skeptical on the Aggressors durability, but it looks like they can hold their own. I was also surprised you kept the flamer aggressors on the board considering their slow speed, but it did not look like this was an issue at all. In fact, all that make me wonder if Assault Centurions could be viable too. They do suffer from the lack of the Core keyword, but otherwise they are essentially Boltstorm and Flamer Aggressors combined into one unit. A single three-man unit is about the same cost as your five-man Flamer Agressors but would have a smaller footprint but a much better shooting output. What do you think? I think loss of core is a big deal but try it out and see  I played the flamer aggressors as a counter assault in this map bc they could easily threaten mid and right objectives. The range wasnt an issue  I regret my lack of canticle of hate in the list...will drop recitation of focus next draft Karhedron and jpwyrm 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5829476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 Pod 20 Round 2 v GK Map-Scouring My army ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [99 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selector**: Born Heroes , Red Scorpions, Space Wolves Successor, Whirlwind of Rage Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost + Stratagems + A Trophy Bestowed [-1CP] Thane of the Retinue [-1CP] + Agents of the Imperium + Culexus Assassin [5 PL, 100pts]: Animus Speculum, Psyk-out Grenades + HQ + Casan Sabius [8 PL, 145pts]: Blade of the Scorpion, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades Chaplain [7 PL, -1CP, 140pts]: 2. Catechism of Fire, 5. Recitation of Focus, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Crozius arcanum, Frag & Krak grenades, Hunter, Jump Pack, Litany of Hate, Power fist, Stratagem: Warrior of Legend, The Armour of Russ, Warlord, Wise Orator Sevrin Loth [7 PL, 135pts]: 2. Murderous Hurricane, 5. Storm Caller, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, The Magister's Axe + Troops + Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts] . 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades . Incursor Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Occulus bolt carbine, Paired combat blades Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 120pts] . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Marksman bolt carbine Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 120pts] . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Marksman bolt carbine + Elites + Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 270pts]: 5x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher: 2x Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets, Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 200pts]: 2x Flamestorm Gauntlets, 4x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant Wulfen [6 PL, 145pts] . Wulfen Pack Leader: Wulfen Frost claws . 4x Wulfen w/ thunder hammer & storm shield: 4x Storm Shield, 4x Thunder Hammer + Fast Attack + Cyberwolves [1 PL, 15pts] . Cyberwolf: Teeth and claws Cyberwolves [1 PL, 15pts] . Cyberwolf: Teeth and claws + Heavy Support + Eradicator Squad [7 PL, 150pts]: Heavy melta rifle . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol . Eradicator Sgt: Bolt pistol Long Fangs [7 PL, 175pts]: Armorium Cherub . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Morkai's Teeth Bolts . . Boltgun and Bolt Pistol: Bolt pistol, Boltgun + Dedicated Transport + Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter ++ Total: [99 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) His army ++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) [55 PL, 10CP, 1,005pts] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Brotherhood: Swordbearers Detachment Command Cost [-2CP] Gametype: Matched + HQ + Castellan Crowe [5 PL, 90pts]: 4: Vortex of Doom Kaldor Draigo [9 PL, 180pts]: 1: Gate of Infinity, 3: Sanctuary, 4: Vortex of Doom + Troops + Strike Squad [6 PL, 110pts] . 4x Grey Knight (Halberd): 4x Nemesis Force Halberd, 4x Storm Bolter . Grey Knight Justicar . . Nemesis Force Halberd + Elites + Paladin Squad [13 PL, 145pts] . 2x Paladin (Sword): 2x Nemesis Force Sword, 2x Storm Bolter . Paragon . . Nemesis Daemon Hammer: Nemesis Daemon Hammer + Heavy Support + Land Raider [14 PL, 295pts]: Hunter-killer Missile, Multi-melta Nemesis Dreadknight [8 PL, 185pts]: Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword ++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) [52 PL, -2CP, 995pts] ++ + Configuration + Brotherhood: Swordbearers Detachment Command Cost + HQ + Brotherhood Techmarine [6 PL, 110pts]: 5: Warp Shaping, Boltgun, Foretelling of Locus, Omnissian Power Axe . Servo Arms Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [11 PL, -1CP, 245pts]: 1: Daemon Slayer, 1: Gate of Infinity, 2: Empyric Amplification, 3: Unyielding Anvil, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Exemplar of the Silver Host, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword, Servant of the Throne, Sigil of Exigence, Warlord + Troops + Strike Squad [6 PL, 110pts] . 4x Grey Knight (Sword): 4x Nemesis Force Sword, 4x Storm Bolter . Grey Knight Justicar . . Nemesis Force Sword + Elites + Paladin Squad [13 PL, -1CP, 165pts]: 3: Hammerhand, 5: Armoured Resilience . 2x Paladin (Daemon Hammer): 2x Nemesis Daemon Hammer, 2x Storm Bolter . Paragon: Augurium Scrolls, Endowment in Extremis . . Nemesis Daemon Hammer: Nemesis Daemon Hammer + Heavy Support + Nemesis Dreadknight [8 PL, 180pts]: Dreadfist, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword Nemesis Dreadknight [8 PL, 185pts]: Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword ++ Total: [107 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) Pregame & Deployment Lots of NDK and vehicle wounds there I think we will both get max primary and secondaries will decide it I would usually take bring it down...but the map favors defense I will roll the dice and gamble on oath...if I go 2nd I have a huge advantage for scoring If I go first I need to kill vehicles for 2 points a round I pick -Stranglehold -Banners -Oath He picks -Stranglehold -No Prisoners -Purifying ritual I deploy infiltrators in the rear to cut off any teleport tricks and secure my DZ My plan is to hide behind walls and keep dying over middle objective Flame aggressors on left 1" from wall in defensive position Bolt aggressors and wulfen on right as my counter assault forces to keep fighting over the middle Chaplain on left CM and RP on right LR -Crowe -Paladin1 DS Paladin2 BATREP I win the roll...doh Move up but stay hidden Send 1 wolf to middle to die Plant flags and do secondary scan on left His turn Kills wolf Teleports LR up Gets 3/3 purify The one thing he does I was NOT expecting is walk his GM forward onto the objective...the damn GM has OBSEC!!! I was gonna trade LS and cyberwolf to get bodies on there...not an option now Turn 2 I need to burn a CP but incursors manage to advance and put 3 OBSEC on the middle to secure it and score stranglehold Others move up slightly The rest of my forces stay safe and hidden I don't need it but I put full scorpion and CM buffs on the bolt-aggressors just in case and they move up to the wall for next turn to charge into the middle His turn Crowe and paladins exit LR and come at me...he has easy charge into my eradicators (oops didn't plan for that) He only gets 2/3 purify thanks to my assassin being a pain His paladin roll 6-6 inside culexus range for armor spell...means he perils but only counts as a 10 I deny on 11 He takes 1 MW for his efforts...funny sequence He kills incursors in the middle easily Left flank Crowe charges and kills 1 eradicator only...lucky me! Paladins kill my wolf and pile into eradicators + infiltrators I kill 1 paladin with return punches from eradicators (he rolled 2 1s) and free up infiltrators I forgot...after his charge phase I used HI and push my flame aggressors out beyond the wall for free 6" movement I confirm he can't pile into me so it is free moving to set up my next turn Right flank GM charges my aggressors I HI my assassin and slide left around the wall to clear room for more aggressors to swing but remain out of engagement range Assassin then pops soul horror (2CP) to make GM fight last He uses his once per game 3++ Aggressors still put 8 wounds into GM with their full rerolls but fail to kill him GM only kills 1 in return swing due to transhuman Turn 3 Time to counter attack hard Left flank Eradicators fall back leaving Crowe exposed for shooting Chaplain gets reroll all hits and recitation of focus for LFs Chaplain jumps up close to punch anything that survives shooting LFs step left to barely get LOS on Crowe while avoiding return fire behind the obscuring terrain 3 MM can see him...should be enough with buffs Right flank CM puts reroll all hits on aggressors and goes to stand by LFs to give RR 1s RP pushes forward to assist aggressors LS pushes out far to block NDK and shut off overwatch if needed Wulfen push out to threaten middle Flam aggressors push out to get LOS on paragon and charge into LR after Assassin has rule to ignore armor so I send him after the paragon terminators near my chaplain as well I get MH off on his GM despite him burning CP...this is huge and lets my aggressors finish the job so I can be more aggressive LS fires stratagem to make his NDK lose overwatch LFs kill crowe and don't need to use cherub Small arms fire kills 1 terminator (1 left) I make all charges Wulfen into NDK Flame aggressors into LR Chaplain and assassin into terminator Wulfen get 6 6-s and smash NDK to scrap Flame aggressors get 14 PF hits into LR do 16 wounds and kill it...doh...I had it wrapped with wulfen and aggressors if it lived Bolt Aggressors kill GM He fights on death and kills 2 more (3 left) Chaplain smashes terminator with his PF Assassin piles in and consolidates for 6" directly towards enemy to push his bubble His turn Brings in his reserve terminators on right flank He moves up and smites a bunch Assassin causes a few failures but not enough to keep me alive Wulfen die to smite + ton of storm bolter rounds 1 flame aggressor dies to smites and 1 more dies to knights big guns (3 left) Left side Strike GK charge my flamer aggressors first I overwatch with 3 guys (6D6) and get 29 flame wounds and 2 dead GK strike guys Draigo follows them into same unit Middle NDK walks into LS Right flank Paladins make 9" charge into bolt aggressors right flank Strike GK also charge my bolt aggressors I HI RP to prevent him touching my banner...he can take me off the point but I want banner to remain He starts with Draigo and kills all flame aggressors I interrupt with last 2 CP and aggressors kill all his GK strike troops (and his OBSEC) His terminators kill bolt aggressors in melee (I needed a 4+ but rolled bad) His NDK kills LS then tags my RP RP fights and consolidates himself into the middle for oath points (woo hoo) Turn 4 Time to press the advantage I put CM reroll on LFs They walk up to get LOS on Draigo and NDK Eradicators get recitation of focus and walk to get LOS on NDK RP falls out of combat so I can shoot the NDK Draigo is only protected by 3 GK...if 1 dies and I can snipe him The infiltrators step out to rapid fire and fish for wounds Chaplain jumps to middle to charge whatever survives LS on left advances to snag the empty objective in his rear left Right flank CM and infiltrators push up to defend the objective from terminators Assassin gets point blank to shoot and charge them as well Infiltrators kill 1 GK with bolters Eradicators put 10 wounds onto NDK LF kill draigo despite his 3++ then pop cherub and finish off NDK Opponent concedes at this point Final & Recap 86-51 SW victory!!! I think the turning point was aggressors getting to swing first into his GM That gave me a huge advantage and killing him gave me board control in the middle If he didn't charge me I was going to bolter and charge him on my turn I'm liking the aggressors so far. Punch real hard! Prot and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5830765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I’m impressed. I really didn’t think the Aggressors would do that well. I think the Wolves +1 to hit is huge. I just never hit that much with my Ultra Aggressors. Regardless this kind of showing vs GK is no joke. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5831404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpwyrm Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I must say I'm also surprised both by the effectiveness of the Aggressors and their durability. Granted, you take care not to over-expose them but still they live long enough to cripple your opponent's units and achieve what you set them up to achieve. I think that your list has the correct balance of melee and range threats and that i probably what makes it work. Â Oh! Thanks for pointing out the Soul Horror Stratagem. I completely forgot that it existed and it's a nice way to get a Fight Last trump card in a list, especially one like mine where there is no other way to get it! Â Good luck for the next games! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5831898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 Round 3 v DE (semi finals) Recover Relics My army ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [99 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selector**: Born Heroes , Red Scorpions, Space Wolves Successor, Whirlwind of Rage Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost + Stratagems + A Trophy Bestowed [-1CP] Thane of the Retinue [-1CP] + Agents of the Imperium + Culexus Assassin [5 PL, 100pts]: Animus Speculum, Psyk-out Grenades + HQ + Casan Sabius [8 PL, 145pts]: Blade of the Scorpion, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades Chaplain [7 PL, -1CP, 140pts]: 2. Catechism of Fire, 5. Recitation of Focus, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Crozius arcanum, Frag & Krak grenades, Hunter, Jump Pack, Litany of Hate, Power fist, Stratagem: Warrior of Legend, The Armour of Russ, Warlord, Wise Orator Sevrin Loth [7 PL, 135pts]: 2. Murderous Hurricane, 5. Storm Caller, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, The Magister's Axe + Troops + Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts] . 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades . Incursor Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Occulus bolt carbine, Paired combat blades Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 120pts] . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Marksman bolt carbine Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 120pts] . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Marksman bolt carbine + Elites + Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 270pts]: 5x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher: 2x Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets, Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 200pts]: 2x Flamestorm Gauntlets, 4x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant Wulfen [6 PL, 145pts] . Wulfen Pack Leader: Wulfen Frost claws . 4x Wulfen w/ thunder hammer & storm shield: 4x Storm Shield, 4x Thunder Hammer + Fast Attack + Cyberwolves [1 PL, 15pts] . Cyberwolf: Teeth and claws Cyberwolves [1 PL, 15pts] . Cyberwolf: Teeth and claws + Heavy Support + Eradicator Squad [7 PL, 150pts]: Heavy melta rifle . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol . Eradicator Sgt: Bolt pistol Long Fangs [7 PL, 175pts]: Armorium Cherub . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Morkai's Teeth Bolts . . Boltgun and Bolt Pistol: Bolt pistol, Boltgun + Dedicated Transport + Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter ++ Total: [99 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) His army ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [48 PL, 9CP, 750pts] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Obsession: The Prophets of Flesh: Connoisseurs of Pain + Stratagems + Stratagem: Prizes from the Dark City [-1CP] + HQ + Archon [4 PL, -1CP, 75pts]: Ancient Evil, As Detachment (Kabal), Huskblade, Overlord, Splinter Pistol, Stratagem: Tolerated Ambition, The Djin Blade Drazhar [8 PL, 145pts]: Hatred Eternal, Warlord Succubus [5 PL, -1CP, 95pts]: 1 - Adrenalight (Combat Drug), As Detachment (Wych Cult), Precision Blows, Stratagem: Tolerated Ambition, The Triptych Whip . Agoniser & Archite Glaive . Show Stealer (Custom): Show Stealer + Troops + Wracks [3 PL, 40pts]: As Detachment (Coven) . Acothyst: Wrack Blade . 4x Wracks: 4x Wrack Blade Wracks [3 PL, 40pts]: As Detachment (Coven) . Acothyst: Wrack Blade . 4x Wracks: 4x Wrack Blade Wracks [3 PL, 40pts]: As Detachment (Coven) . Acothyst: Wrack Blade . 4x Wracks: 4x Wrack Blade Wracks [6 PL, 80pts]: As Detachment (Coven) . Acothyst: Wrack Blade . 9x Wracks: 9x Wrack Blade Wracks [6 PL, 80pts]: As Detachment (Coven) . Acothyst: Wrack Blade . 9x Wracks: 9x Wrack Blade Wracks [6 PL, 80pts]: As Detachment (Coven) . Acothyst: Wrack Blade . 9x Wracks: 9x Wrack Blade + Elites + Mandrakes [4 PL, 75pts] . 4x Mandrake: 4x Baleblast, 4x Glimmersteel Blade . Nightfiend ++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Harlequins) [60 PL, -2CP, 1,250pts] ++ + Configuration + Detachment Command Cost [-2CP] Saedath Characterisation: Dark: Dark Deeds + HQ + Shadowseer [5 PL, 100pts]: 1. Twilight Pathways (Blessing), 3. Mirror of Minds (Witchfire), Shuriken Pistol + Troops + Troupe [9 PL, 140pts] . Lead Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol Troupe [4 PL, 105pts] . Lead Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss . Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Blade, Neuro Disruptor . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Neuro Disruptor . Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Embrace Troupe [4 PL, 105pts] . Lead Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss . Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol . Player: Harlequin's Blade, Neuro Disruptor . Player: Harlequin's Caress, Neuro Disruptor . Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Embrace + Elites + Solitaire [6 PL, 110pts] + Fast Attack + Skyweavers [12 PL, 250pts] . Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive . Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive . Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive . Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive . Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive Skyweavers [12 PL, 250pts] . Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive . Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive . Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive . Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive . Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive + Dedicated Transport + Starweaver [4 PL, 95pts] Starweaver [4 PL, 95pts] ++ Total: [108 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) Pregame & Deployment Time for my fun to come to an end apparently. Aeldari and nids are S tier and everyone else is far far below I don't expect a win here...I just want points for final placement I pick -Engage -Psychic interrogation (why? I dunno...nothing else seemed ok) -Warrior Pride (why? I thought he would come at me and we could have fun) Herd the prey Banners Assassination My usual deployment is 2 flanks...with a fight last and aggressor unit on each side Batrep He wins roll off (I got 5 he got 6) He moves up slowly My turn Walk up and try to shoot him off an objective Incursors burn a CP to advance but get enough to cross the line and score engage LF kill 3 total wracks...ugg Turn 2 He kills 2 LFs with his skyweavers (I made a ton of 2+) He kamikazes players into RP and gets 3 MW on charge and 3 more with 6's in melee to kill me So long psychic interrogation points Solitaire kamikazes into me as well on the right flank and goes after aggressors I HI with chaplain and make him fight last I kill him and he activates fight on death to kill 4/5 aggressors anyways...uggg I consolidate towards his lines and pass morale My turn LF kills 4/5 skyweavers Aggressor solo survivor walks forward and makes the charge to kill last one in melee He consolidates into wracks hoping to survive Chaplain only kills 3 wracks in melee leaving a few left...they naturally kill the aggressor Left flank eradicators and flame aggressors kill 2/5 skyweavers I've punched back but not close to hard enough Turn 3 Succubus comes flying into me but can't get through transhuman aggressors so they live Mind war kills my chaplain easily (this new version of mindwar is insane...) My turn I get revenge on the succubus then surrender Final & Recap 57-98 SW loss I had no shot at winning to be perfectly honest. That army trades too well and can't be stopped. All the harlie melee has fight on death from dark saedith so our fight last means nothing I did enjoy the aggressor performance again...they are starting to grow on me 1 more game remaining My goal is 3-1 in current meta with SW...I have a shot! Prot, jpwyrm and Harald Fairmane 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5831932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Nice try though. I really did wonder if you could pull it of!  so straight up… what works better for Wolves, Termies or Aggressors? ( I still love mixed loadout Termies with three chainfists and combi meltas).  I used to play a lot of Aggressors flame types, with my ultras. They would have great multi over watch potential and better AP with ultras but always  whiffed in CC and I hated the Deathguard match up. I always ran a full squad with an upgraded apothecary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5832177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 Nice try though. I really did wonder if you could pull it of!  so straight up… what works better for Wolves, Termies or Aggressors? ( I still love mixed loadout Termies with three chainfists and combi meltas).  I used to play a lot of Aggressors flame types, with my ultras. They would have great multi over watch potential and better AP with ultras but always  whiffed in CC and I hated the Deathguard match up. I always ran a full squad with an upgraded apothecary.  The aggressors have the edge right now b/c I love their T5 and I can transhuman them if something big hits them.  What makes them work in my list is the special scorpion reroll tricks. Reroll all hits is good for shooting + melee and I can get +1 attack per model and reroll all wounds v psykers That makes the hail of shots and follow up melee LETHAL Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5832183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Ah okay. Thanks. That makes sense. I am trying to decide on one squad of them. Which loadout do you recommend? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5832629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strasgard Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Just curious - how can you take red scorpions and a SW successor in one detachment? Aren't we forced to pick either being a red scorpion army or a SW one? I got an error on battlescribe, but maybe its outdated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5832679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Just curious - how can you take red scorpions and a SW successor in one detachment? Aren't we forced to pick either being a red scorpion army or a SW one? I got an error on battlescribe, but maybe its outdated. Red Scorpions are a chapter with an unknown founding chapter. So you can pick space wolves or iron hands or whatever 1st founding you want. Then you use the red scorpions rules as the successor rules. Â I don't know how that works in battle scribe, but it's a free community updated app so don't expect it to be perfect. They do a great job for what they charge us :). jpwyrm 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5832778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just curious - how can you take red scorpions and a SW successor in one detachment? Aren't we forced to pick either being a red scorpion army or a SW one? I got an error on battlescribe, but maybe its outdated.ChapterPick SW successor  Under Successor Chapters there is a button for FW Chapters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5833103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 Ah okay. Thanks. That makes sense. I am trying to decide on one squad of them. Which loadout do you recommend? I didnt see this question sorry.  Im still testing the flame v bolt options and dont have a favorite yet  I love cheaper flame and possible overwatch but range is a problem  I love long range bolt flexibility bc i can shoot 1 and charge another most of the time but hate paying more  IRL i have all bolter aggressors so that may influence later choices Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5833220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 Started up a new pod with aggressor 2.0 list Will add it to this saga. I really missed the DP for LFs and 3 eradicators are too swingy Also swapped recitation of focus for canticle of hate to make charges easier Pod 24 Round 1 v Tau Abandoned Sanctuary My army ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [108 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selector**: Born Heroes , Red Scorpions, Space Wolves Successor, Whirlwind of Rage Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost + Stratagems + A Trophy Bestowed [-1CP] Thane of the Retinue [-1CP] + Agents of the Imperium + Culexus Assassin [5 PL, 100pts]: Animus Speculum, Psyk-out Grenades + HQ + Casan Sabius [8 PL, 145pts]: Blade of the Scorpion, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades Chaplain [7 PL, -1CP, 140pts]: 2. Catechism of Fire, 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Crozius arcanum, Frag & Krak grenades, Hunter, Jump Pack, Litany of Hate, Power fist, Stratagem: Warrior of Legend, The Armour of Russ, Warlord, Wise Orator Sevrin Loth [7 PL, 135pts]: 2. Murderous Hurricane, 5. Storm Caller, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, The Magister's Axe + Troops + Incursor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]: Haywire Mine . 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades . Incursor Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Occulus bolt carbine, Paired combat blades Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 120pts] . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Marksman bolt carbine Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 120pts] . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Marksman bolt carbine + Elites + Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 225pts]: 4x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher: 2x Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets, Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 160pts]: 2x Flamestorm Gauntlets, 3x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant Wulfen [6 PL, 140pts] . Wulfen Pack Leader: Wulfen Frost claws . 3x Wulfen w/ thunder hammer & storm shield: 3x Storm Shield, 3x Thunder Hammer . Wulfen w/ Wulfen frost claws: Wulfen Frost claws + Fast Attack + Cyberwolves [1 PL, 15pts] . Cyberwolf: Teeth and claws Cyberwolves [1 PL, 15pts] . Cyberwolf: Teeth and claws Cyberwolves [1 PL, 15pts] . Cyberwolf: Teeth and claws + Heavy Support + Eradicator Squad [14 PL, 200pts]: Heavy melta rifle . 3x Eradicator: 3x Bolt pistol . Eradicator Sgt: Bolt pistol Long Fangs [7 PL, 175pts]: Armorium Cherub . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta . Long Fang Pack Leader: Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Morkai's Teeth Bolts . . Boltgun and Bolt Pistol: Bolt pistol, Boltgun + Dedicated Transport + Drop Pod [4 PL, 70pts]: Storm bolter Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter Land Speeder Storm [3 PL, 55pts]: Cerberus launcher, Heavy bolter ++ Total: [108 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) His army ++ Super-Heavy Detachment -6CP (T'au Empire) [51 PL, -6CP, 995pts] ++ + Configuration + Detachment Command Cost [-6CP] Sept Choice: T'au Sept + Lord of War + Stormsurge [17 PL, 335pts]: Early Warning Override, Pulse Driver Cannon, Twin Airbursting Fragmentation Projector, Velocity Tracker Stormsurge [17 PL, 330pts]: Early Warning Override, Pulse Driver Cannon, Twin T'au Flamer, Velocity Tracker Stormsurge [17 PL, 330pts]: Early Warning Override, Pulse Driver Cannon, Twin T'au Flamer, Velocity Tracker ++ Spearhead Detachment -3CP (T'au Empire) [51 PL, 9CP, 1,005pts] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost [-3CP] Sept Choice: T'au Sept + HQ + Longstrike [9 PL, 180pts]: 2x Smart Missile System, Railgun, 2x Seeker Missile, Warlord + Heavy Support + Hammerhead Gunship [8 PL, 165pts]: 2x Smart Missile System, Railgun, 2x Seeker Missile Hammerhead Gunship [8 PL, 165pts]: 2x Smart Missile System, Railgun, 2x Seeker Missile Hammerhead Gunship [8 PL, 165pts]: 2x Smart Missile System, Railgun, 2x Seeker Missile + Flyer + Sun Shark Bomber [9 PL, 165pts]: 2x Missile Pod . . 2x Interceptor Drone: 4x Ion Rifle Sun Shark Bomber [9 PL, 165pts]: 2x Missile Pod . . 2x Interceptor Drone: 4x Ion Rifle Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) Pregame & Deployment Welp...lots of vehicles and guns to dodge. Hug the walls and expect to die when I pop out...just like every other game of 40K!! I pick Stranglehold Bring it down Oath She picks Decisive action Assassination To the last -SS1 -SS2 -SS3 I put LF in the DP and eradicators on the hunt Left flank is wulfen + flame aggressors All characters except CM here as well Right flank is bolt aggressors + CM combo giving aggressors reroll all hits + bonus attack every turn I put infiltrator on each flank and the incursor on the right I expect the wolves to die immediately due to all the indirect fire so I put them up front...if I get 1st turn they can run out and touch objectives BATREP Opponent gets 1st turn She flies her bombers over me and off the board 2MW on wulfen 2MW on infiltrators Kills all 3 cyberwolves with indirect fire...doh Other indirect fire puts 2 on bolt aggressors My turn LS1 flies to mid board to take objective and earn oath Assassin runs out to touch left objective to secure stranglehold Everyone else moves up and hugs walls Infiltrators position with their 12" bubble to keep his flyers out of my backfield I do NOT bring in DP Turn 2 She moves up and wants to kill everything I moved up The flyers come in on each flank The assassin survives the SS but the flyer finishes the job My turn I have to go after the SS she has pushed in my face Chaplain gets catechism of fire on flame aggressors and I put them in assault doctrine Flame aggressors move up to threaten left SS Wulfen move up to threaten right SS LS2 goes middle for oath and stratagem to turn off overwatch Drop pod comes in left side safe behind obscuring terrain They have LOS to flyer and SS and should be safe from return fire I get MH on left SS to turn off OW Shooting phase is horrible...LF push 1 wound into flyer for 3 damage total (rolls were bad and had no rerolls around) The 1 thing the LF do right is nail the middle SS with morkai bolts to help wulfen Flame aggressors get 2 wounds through on left SS Middle LS fires and I use stratagem to shut down OW I make all charges I savage strike my wulfen THs at S10 and +1 to wound will be wounding on 2s and rerolling thanks to morkai bolts Wulfen get a few 6's and land 14 TH wounds on the SS. After saves and CP it has 1 wound Frost claws finish the job I consolidate deep into her lines and take the rear objective away and touch a hammerhead Left flank I manage 2 more damage with fists...these flame aggressors failed real hard Wulfen did awesome but I'm sad...left flank is going to see heavy casualties...I was expecting a decent chance to kill flyer AND SS...but they are gonna erase everything I just moved Turn 3 She flies far right plane over and bombs LF Left plane flies middle and bombs LS Left SS moves to middle and threatens my backfield She kills everything she can see -Flame aggressors -LF -LS -Rune priest (I was dumb putting him outside the wall for smite...) My turn I am running low on bodies and need to hold back some resources and sacrifice others Chaplain goes middle to earn oath and take objective...he is dead but this is worth 8 VP (oath + stranglehold + mission secondary) Incursor on right flank advance out and touch objective near his SS...obsec takes it away I bring eradicators in my rear left...easy shot on his left flank flyer and safe from counter attack Eradicators splash the flyer I score my secondaries Turn 4 She flies her plane to my rear and shoots at eradicators but only kills 1 and takes a ton of MW for the attempt She drives her hammerheads forward to try and get board control going My turn Eradicators walk up and left to get LOS on hammerhead and blast her off objective Infiltrators run out to touch objective as well Right flank I run infiltrators out to touch the middle I keep the aggressors back after debating...they get CM rerolls and shoot her weak flyer down in my DZ Turn 5 She kills everything she can see...I have CM and aggressors only. No more stranglehold! She pushes deep into my lines with his her hammerheads I HI and CM gets 6" free movement to threaten mid objective My turn Last hurrah! I took a moment to look at the score and see if I can win...I'm surprised the score is so close. I see a path to victory Aggressors get full RR I see the board and laugh at my HI...the CM retreats back behind the wall where he started Aggressors come out and shoot 2 wounds off near HH CM charges from behind the wall to prevent overwatch Aggressors charge in after I punch the hammerhead to death then consolidate to touch my home and middle objective I get 2 objectives I get bring it down I get control of the middle (5 pts end game) Final & Recap 83-76 *We forgot the 5 points end game score and added it after SW victory!!! I lost almost all my models but was able to hang in with scoring to pull it off I LOVE the nerf to indirect fire...saved my ass having 2+ save for aggressors The T5 was a big deal too and helped filter a bunch of indirect fire wounds Random note as I was writing this I defaulted to "he/his" and had to go back and edit it. I know of 3 women in the community that I run into for matches but this hobby is so lopsided my brain just defaults to a male opponent when I write recaps. That was interesting to me...anyways Aggressors yay! Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5834173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) Tau still smash. Glad you pulled out a victory. Â Â How do you think you list would fair against a more aggressive Tau list? (Suits and warriors and broadsides) Edited May 31, 2022 by Triszin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5834460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 Tau still smash. Glad you pulled out a victory.   How do you think you list would fair against a more aggressive Tau list? (Suits and warriors and broadsides) all depends on the terrain  if i can hide out of LOS but reach objectives i feel good  i actually had a match against the type of tau you mention but our schedules didnt match so i had to forfeit the round Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5834534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 I really haven’t played Tau since their new codex but I always disliked the play style.  honestly I don’t know if she had a top tier list but marines aren’t in that Tau tier from what I see but you did really good to win this one. I don’t want to take speeders if I can help it but you see a turn like your turn 1 and there’s a lot of benefit there. Great game. TiguriusX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5834911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 This saga has to be cut short. Â Had 2 good matches lined up (2-1 v Nids and 1-0 v sisters) but real life work issues have cropped up and forced me to drop all 40k until i address it. Â Time to focus and put my nose to the grind stone Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5835622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/6/2022 at 2:26 PM, TiguriusX said: This saga has to be cut short.  Had 2 good matches lined up (2-1 v Nids and 1-0 v sisters) but real life work issues have cropped up and forced me to drop all 40k until i address it.  Time to focus and put my nose to the grind stone Hope things resolve soon and to your benefit. Now that the forum is back I can’t wait for more competitive SW content. Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5836079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/6/2022 at 8:26 PM, TiguriusX said: This saga has to be cut short. Had 2 good matches lined up (2-1 v Nids and 1-0 v sisters) but real life work issues have cropped up and forced me to drop all 40k until i address it. Time to focus and put my nose to the grind stone Hope everything's ok, and hope to see more soon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5836173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 As others have said, I hope everything calms and returns to normal. We all enjoy your batreps! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5836400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted June 26, 2022 Author Share Posted June 26, 2022 No need to worry battle brothers.  I met my quarterly work quota and am on vacation right now.  Have 5G at the camp site in Zion by the river. Wasnt expecting to be able to check my emails etc.  Will start up a new saga in july when i return home. Not sure how we will fare in Nephilim. Stranglehold was a big part of my battleplan. Struggling to build an army for new meta so far. yan, Wolf Guard Dan and Kallas 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5837340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Ahh communing with the World Spirit before returning to battle, a true son of Fenris. Enjoy your vacation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/374219-saga-of-the-scorpion-aggressors-post-aoc-and-knight-codex/#findComment-5837417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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