How will Terminators get to deepstrike in the new 30k?

[Lord Krungharr]

Still searching the Dropbox PDF leak, and I can't find how terminators will gain deepstrike.  Pride of the Legion isn't giving them that and looks like their special rules don't have it either.  Anyone see something I'm missing?  I know it's not the full actual ruleset but seems like a real leak and not all fake stuff.

 

Here's the link for people who haven't seen it:

 

 

 

Or maybe they just won't get to deepstrike?  That would help to sell more plastic Spartans I guess 

Edited May 16, 2022 by Slips
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[Slips]

Still searching the Dropbox PDF leak, and I can't find how terminators will gain deepstrike.  Pride of the Legion isn't giving them that and looks like their special rules don't have it either.  Anyone see something I'm missing?  I know it's not the full actual ruleset but seems like a real leak and not all fake stuff.

 

Here's the link for people who haven't seen it:

 

 

Or maybe they just won't get to deepstrike?  That would help to sell more plastic Spartans I guess 

Baseline, 30k Terminators dont get access to Deep Strike. POTL has also never given terminators deep strike. Drop Pod Assault used to but it seems like it doesnt anymore.

 

The only legions with access to across the board TDA Deep Strike is IF and NL. You are otherwise having to take special characters or legion-specific rites of war to do so; or be a Legion-Specific variant who comes with it baseline.

 

This is also not news and therefore has been moved out of the N&R

Edited May 16, 2022 by Slips

[Lord Krungharr]

Sorry for the wrong section; I thought the PDF compilation was kinda news.

 

Hmmm, I see Perturabo does have the Deep Strike special rule in the playtest rules.  I don't see the Independent Character rules in the PDF however, so I'm unsure if that would transfer to a unit he joins.  Sure thought he did used to give terminators that before however, or maybe it was the old Pride of the Legion Rite of War?  There was a way so at least the Tyrant Siege Terminators could drop in, just can't remember. 

 

I never got to play the original HH, just had the red books for a while, but sold them when I heard HH was getting a reboot.

[Slips]

Deep Strike does not confer.

 

Perturabo, himself, had a special rule that allowed Terminators to Deep Strike and roll for reserves on T1.

Edited May 16, 2022 by Slips

[Cris R]

In terms of Legion-specific terminators, the Blood Angel's Crimson Paladins have Deep Strike in 1.0 and in the 2.0 leaks I've seen. That said, the leaked version of Day of Sorrows, which turns them into the Troop-Line category to score points, prohibits deep striking units, so you need to footslog them or pop them into a vehicle.

[LameBeard]

Zone Mortalis Assault Force Rite of War granted Deep Strike to one Legion Terminator Squad.

[Slips]

Zone Mortalis Assault Force Rite of War granted Deep Strike to one Legion Terminator Squad.

We've unfortunately not seen any ZM or ZM-specific stuff crossover in the playtest leaks.

[The Scorpion]

Zone Mortalis Assault Force Rite of War granted Deep Strike to one Legion Terminator Squad.

I'm concerned that there seems to be no ZM RoW in the new edition.

Where mah boarding actions at?

[LameBeard]

 

 

Zone Mortalis Assault Force Rite of War granted Deep Strike to one Legion Terminator Squad.

We've unfortunately not seen any ZM or ZM-specific stuff crossover in the playtest leaks.

Sad face. Maybe an upcoming supplement? Could even release around the time of a smaller starter set (without a Spartan!)

[Slips]

Most likely; ZM was, after all, a new game mode introduced in one of the black books alongside Blood in the Void, Victory Is Vengeance and other sub-game modes.

 

To me, once all the main armies are out, we can most likely expect these variant game modes to be reintroduced  and most likely come alongside supplementary content for the Legions, mechanicum, imperial army and custodes.

 

And yes, ZM would be a pretty perfect way to have another SKU for 30k to get more people into the games ecosystem; the terrain is already there and made, after all - just look at Necromunda/Kill-Team.

[Marshal Mittens]

I imagine we will see ZM and things like it with another release batch 9-12 months from the launch, maybe with Breachers and the like included in that release?

[Spagunk]

My hobby group almost exclusively plays ZM. So as biased as I am, I fully endorse ZM as a great way to play HH.
 

[MARK0SIAN]

The generic rites of war just seem make various units troops now. They don’t actually seem to confer any bonuses to units other than giving them access to different dedicated transports. None of the HQs grant deep strike either.

 

It looks like the only way you’ll have access to it for terminators is if your legion already does it like IF or one of the legion characters grants it like Abbadon. There may also be legion specific rites of war that will grant it but it looks like it’ll be rarer in general than it used to be and it wasn’t super common in the first place.

[Lord Krungharr]

This gives me a good reason to make a Mastodon then.  Or at least, a reason.  I can use it as a model transport too cuz it'll be absurdly huge! (using spare Lord of Skulls tracks as a starting point)

[LameBeard]

Or maybe deep strike for terminators now lives in some equipment list, “teleportation transponders”. Was it Inperial Fists who could buy these - maybe they will become standard?

[bushman101]

Have we seen the Warmonger Consul in 2.0?

 

I never used it, so I didn't look for it

[Slips]

Not present in the P3 stuff.

[Brofist]

My hobby group almost exclusively plays ZM. So as biased as I am, I fully endorse ZM as a great way to play HH.

yeah and honestly, its pretty easy to port over as-is

[Cris R]

Have we seen the Warmonger Consul in 2.0?

 

I never used it, so I didn't look for it

 

One of my favorite options for my Blood Angels. Deep Striking for attached unit, Iron Halo, and Digital Lasers made them a great all rounder HQ, especially when you made them a Terminator HQ and used them to Deep Strike Terminators in a Day of Revelation or one of the generic deep striking-focused RoWs. I get that the changes to Deep Striking in 2.0 - especially being able to charge out of Deep Strike - would have made them pretty OP'd in 2.0 but it would be nice to see them return with the same wargear and a rule for making another unit mobile in some way down the road.