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Been theorycrafting a fair bit in the forum's absence. Current list I am working towards is this, appreciate any tips:

 

Captain Lucius (185) No Laer blade, sonic shrieker

Tartaros Centurion (135) Herald, Thunder hammer, sonic shrieker, grenade harness

Centurion (115) Champion, Paragon blade, sonic shrieker

 

10 Tartaros Terminators (410) Vexilla, augury scanner, 2x reaper autocannon, phoenix spear, 2x chainfist, 4x power fist, 3x lightning claw

5 Phoenix Guard (200)

         - DT Land Raider Proteus (235) Front-mounted lascannon

4 Apothecaries (180)

 

20 Tactical Marines (220), Vexilla, phoenix spear

20 Tactical Marines (220), Vexilla, phoenix spear

15 Despoilers (180) Vexilla, phoenix spear, 2x power axes

 

10 Heavy Support Marines (285) 10x lascannons, augury scanner

10 Kakophoni (275)

Kratos (360) Flashburn shells, hull-mounted lascannon, lascannon sponsons

 

3000pts

 

Maru Skara RoW. Lucius & Phoenix guard outflank in the Land Raider, Despoilers & Champion outflank on foot.

Apothecaries join the two 20-man Tac squads and the Heavies and Kakophoni.

Tartaros & Herald footslog up the centre (anvil), outflankers come on and knock out enemy & take the objective (hammer).

 

Edited by Brother Kraskor
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  • 2 weeks later...

Still no games and a while to go to put it all together but I think this finesses it a bit:

 

Captain Lucius 185 Nineteen (No Laer blade), Sonic shrieker 

Tartaros Centurion 130 Herald, Thunder hammer, sonic shrieker

5 Phoenix Guard Retinue 215 Legion Standard

Dedicated Land Raider 235 Twin-linked lascannon

 

10 Tartaros Terminators 406 Vexilla, 1x phoenix spear, 2x chainfist, 4x power fist, 3x lightning claw, 2x plasma blaster, 8x volkite charger

4 Apothecaries 180

 

20 Tacticals 220 Vexilla, phoenix spear

20 Tacticals 220 Vexilla, phoenix spear

 

3 Sky-Hunters 160 3x multi-meltas, artificer armour

 

10 Sunkillers 405 Lascannons, augury scanner

10 Kakophoni 275

Kratos 360 Flashburn shells, sponson lascannon, hull lascannon 

 

No longer taking any RoW. Apothecaries babysit the Tacticals, Sunkillers, and Kakophoni. 2x big rear Line blobs, 2x big forward Line threats, 2x shooty infantry threats, 2x shooty tank threats, and deep-striking Multi meltas to react as needed, pretty simple really!

Edited by Brother Kraskor

Now a kind of weird fusion of the two:

 

Fulgrim (425)

Lucius (185) No laer blade, sonic shrieker

Centurion (135) Herald, Thunder Hammer, sonic shrieker, grenade harness

 

5 Phoenix Guard (200)

10 Tartaros Terminators (400) Phoenix Spear, 2x Chainfists, 4x Power Fists, 3x Lightning claw, 2x Reaper autocannon

 

10 Tacticals (120) Phoenix Spear, Vexilla

Rhino (65) Multi-melta

10 Tacticals (120) Phoenix Spear, Vexilla

Rhino (65) Multi-melta

 

Sabre (95) Autocannon & heavy bolter, searchlights, 2 Sabre missiles

Sabre (95) Autocannon & heavy bolter, searchlights, 2 Sabre missiles

 

10 Sunkillers (405) Lascannons, Augury scanner

10 Kakophoni (275)

Kratos (410) Flashburn shells, sponson lascannon, hull lascannon, flare shield

 

2995pts

 

 

Lucius and Kakophoni advance with Fulgrim & Phoenix Guard on one flank, the ten Tartaros with Herald on the other. Lucius initially babysits Kakophoni to give preferred enemy, then jumps into the phoenix guard squad to give that to Fulgrim so he can take names and kick ass. A fair spread of armour and infantry, not loads of Line but hopefully enough for most games.

  • 2 weeks later...
On 7/11/2022 at 2:57 PM, Brother Kraskor said:

Now a kind of weird fusion of the two:

 

Fulgrim (425)

Lucius (185) No laer blade, sonic shrieker

Centurion (135) Herald, Thunder Hammer, sonic shrieker, grenade harness

 

5 Phoenix Guard (200)

10 Tartaros Terminators (400) Phoenix Spear, 2x Chainfists, 4x Power Fists, 3x Lightning claw, 2x Reaper autocannon

 

10 Tacticals (120) Phoenix Spear, Vexilla

Rhino (65) Multi-melta

10 Tacticals (120) Phoenix Spear, Vexilla

Rhino (65) Multi-melta

 

Sabre (95) Autocannon & heavy bolter, searchlights, 2 Sabre missiles

Sabre (95) Autocannon & heavy bolter, searchlights, 2 Sabre missiles

 

10 Sunkillers (405) Lascannons, Augury scanner

10 Kakophoni (275)

Kratos (410) Flashburn shells, sponson lascannon, hull lascannon, flare shield

 

2995pts

 

 

Lucius and Kakophoni advance with Fulgrim & Phoenix Guard on one flank, the ten Tartaros with Herald on the other. Lucius initially babysits Kakophoni to give preferred enemy, then jumps into the phoenix guard squad to give that to Fulgrim so he can take names and kick ass. A fair spread of armour and infantry, not loads of Line but hopefully enough for most games.

I think your list thematics are classic and really dig them.

That said, you can Outflank 4 units. I would think you would want to do so with the Sabres (in one unit), the Phoenix Guard (who need to get downfield somehow; maybe a Spartan, Dreadclaw or Storm Eagle instead of that Kratos?), and both Tactical Squads. Being able to do so with Troops is new, and especially powerful with a shooting unit with Line.

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