Thoughts on Misprints

[Dont-Be-Haten]

Hey guys, in my rule book I've come across a couple of contraindications in the book.

First Sons of Horus are sworn brothers with Blood Angels, but Blood Angels are not sworn brothers with the SoH.

 

Secondly the rules for pistols states your unit can both shoot and charge, however on the pictorial on how ranged weapons work it states pistols "can not" charge after shooting.

 

Had anyone else noticed these? Before the errata how are we playing them? Pistols can shoot and charge while BA and SoH can both be Sworn brothers, or neither can?

[SkimaskMohawk]

The first thing is just a feature.

There's always been different allegiance levels depending on who's the ally and who's the primary. Kind of has to do with perception/assumptions of the legions and used to be called out as intentional by the rules.

 

The second is definitely an editing flub, but I'd go with the actual written rules over the diagram if there's a contradiction.

[Aeternus]

As Skimask notes, the latter is just an editing mistake from copying and pasting the rapid fire text from the one above pistols. In other languages rulebooks (either the german or french one iirc) it has the correct text on the diagram - that you can charge after shooting pistols, as the written rules outside the diagram state.

[Spagunk]

The picture issue was leftovers from Stage 3 playtest rules. I think it's amusing but definitely a problem if you're someone who just glances at pictures mid game.

Edited June 27, 2022 by Spagunk

[Imren]

In general, you can say that if RAW contradicts eachother and one fo them is aligned with RAI (in this case, that pistols can be fired before charging, been like that for decades in this case). Then it is safe to say that RAI supercedes as it is also written in the rules despite being contradicted.

[Xenith]

As above, the ally chart is meant to be asymmetrical. Same way at Istvaan V the Salamanders, Iron Hands and Raven Guard thought that the Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion and Night Lords were sworn brothers, but the latter four thought differently. 

[Canadian_F_H]

The ally chart specifies one axis as the primary and the other as the ally.  So allegiance level is partially based on which faction has the warlord.

I don't recall ever seeing the old chart that way, but it was also asymmetrical and in hind sight, it makes sense now.

Alpha Legion trust the mortal troops they bring with them because they represent their mortal operators, but mortal armies do not trust the alpha legion that attached to their forces.

Mortal meaning Solar Aux, Militia, Imperial Army, etc.

[Cactus]

The asymmetry would be clearer if the core rulebook actually labelled each axis. Fortunately Liber Hereticus has the complete version.

[Canadian_F_H]

17 hours ago, Cactus said:

The asymmetry would be clearer if the core rulebook actually labelled each axis. Fortunately Liber Hereticus has the complete version.

Agreed.  There are some serious proof reading issues with this new edition...

Also, the chart axes are labeled in the Liber Astartes too.