Which legion!?!?!?!?!

[Rickshaw]

So hard deciding on a legion.  I'm trying to decide by playstyle.  I like to play a forward moving army with the end goal of getting into hand 2 hand and capturing objectives.  I'm not looking to play pure rush forward and fight, I like to play in each phase so a bit of balance is nice.   I'm heavily leaning towards Dark Angels and playing the dreadwing rite of war.  It looks gritty and in your face.  I haven't played any warhammmer in over a year now so I'm stumped while writing a list.

Other legions I'm considering in order:

White scars

World eaters

Space wolfs 

Emperors children 

 

 

Thanks for any input!

[Brother Dallo]

If you’re not aware, there’s a dedicated thread for helping folks to choose a legion. Might be worth a look. I believe it’s pinned at the top of the Heresy threads.

That said, I’ll ask the basic questions.

Are you more about lore, hobby (painting/building) or gameplay? Most people like a combination, but knowing where your preferences lie helps to narrow down the choice.

The most obvious thing to say is to pick an army you enjoy. If you hate painting white, maybe Scars are not for you. Or maybe it’s time to get over that fear and try some of the many YouTube tutorials on how to paint white.

It’s up to you.

Also, deciding if you want to be a Loyalist or Traitor (or ambiguous) is a useful steering point.

Would you be happy to paint say fifty models as White Scars? Or Dark Angels? 
 

Dallo

[Rickshaw]

I'm a combination of lore and playstyle.  Painting difficulty doesn't worry me much.  I'm okay trying and failing until I figure it out.

[SkimaskMohawk]

White scars, world eaters and space wolves are all kinda rush into melee armies.

Scars are pushed to outflanking and getting some massive bonuses to charge from things like the storm seer (like +7 on your faster units).

World eaters similarly can get a flat +2 to run and charges from berserker assault, and that combines with jump packs for a +4.

Wolves can just...run and charge lol. They're honestly the most aggressive of all the legions I've listed, as you're forfeiting your shooting accuracy (as you can still snap shot) to get into melee faster.

 

[Orange Knight]

Things worth considering are cost and the difficulty of putting together a particular force.

This might not be a concern to everyone, but for me I chose a Legion that would make good and effective use of the contents of the starter box.

One thing I'm finding a bit frustrating is the fact that GW still haven't released the heavy weapon upgrade kit which features the Las Cannons and Volkites.

Again, this might not be of bother and your budget could be significant, but if you really are torn on multiple Legions and can't make a choice, then the ease of putting together a particular force could be the decisive factor.

[Rickshaw]

59 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

Things worth considering are cost and the difficulty of putting together a particular force.

This might not be a concern to everyone, but for me I chose a Legion that would make good and effective use of the contents of the starter box.

One thing I'm finding a bit frustrating is the fact that GW still haven't released the heavy weapon upgrade kit which features the Las Cannons and Volkites.

Again, this might not be of bother and your budget could be significant, but if you really are torn on multiple Legions and can't make a choice, then the ease of putting together a particular force could be the decisive factor.

It is a fair point.  It's something I was thinking about.  I may go Infantry heavy DA dreadwing, and convert their special plasma weapons.

[Arkhanist]

Melee heavy forces such as world eaters are fun, but definitely cost is a factor for now if you don't have access to a 3d printer or a copious bits box. Between chainaxes, melee arms and jump packs, it's an expensive army if you're stuck with FW resin, and similarly if you want to go breacher heavy. Hopefully we'll see some plastic infantry that's not a tac squad at some point, once they've finally cleared the backlog of preview dreads/vehicles!

[Xenith]

All of those sound cool. What's your favourite army lore-wise? However you already seem to have your eye on Dark Angels. They have a wide range of unique unit choices. 

13 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

One thing I'm finding a bit frustrating is the fact that GW still haven't released the heavy weapon upgrade kit which features the Las Cannons and Volkites.

Perhaps waiting until everyones made andpainted their Mk6 marines from the set so they have to get new models for the new uprades? <\cynicism>

[Captain Idaho]

Go with your gut first.

Although price is somewhat restrictive at times, consider that most of the time you'll end up collecting the army you wanted anyway, but over a longer time period. In the meantime the army you settled for is almost wasted money.

So jump in 

[N1SB]

19 hours ago, Rickshaw said:

I'm heavily leaning towards Dark Angels and playing the dreadwing rite of war.  It looks gritty and in your face.  I haven't played any warhammmer in over a year now so I'm stumped while writing a list.

Brother Rickshaw, just a word to the wise, please be reminded certain Rites of War can turn units into Troops without making them Scoring "Line Subtype".

I only share this because I nearly made that mistake, but a fellow Frater, Brother Erren, saved me with a catch.  To my recollection, none of the Dark Angels-specific RoWs gives the Line Subtype for Scoring, though they definitely make units into Troops for ease of Force Org Charting.  This may or may not change your planning.

In my case, it actually did a bit.  I ended up using a generic Rite of War that did make the units I want into Scoring Line Subtype, then picked the Legion that fit it the best after.  It's a bit of a horse and cart issue, I actually made my list 1st, then assigned a Legion after.  Because like you, I liked several Legions' respective lore, so I went this (opposite) direction.

[Mandragola]

22 minutes ago, N1SB said:

Brother Rickshaw, just a word to the wise, please be reminded certain Rites of War can turn units into Troops without making them Scoring "Line Subtype".

I only share this because I nearly made that mistake, but a fellow Frater, Brother Erren, saved me with a catch.  To my recollection, none of the Dark Angels-specific RoWs gives the Line Subtype for Scoring, though they definitely make units into Troops for ease of Force Org Charting.  This may or may not change your planning.

In my case, it actually did a bit.  I ended up using a generic Rite of War that did make the units I want into Scoring Line Subtype, then picked the Legion that fit it the best after.  It's a bit of a horse and cart issue, I actually made my list 1st, then assigned a Legion after.  Because like you, I liked several Legions' respective lore, so I went this (opposite) direction.

I think this is excellent advice. Picking a RoW ahead of a Legion might seem odd, but actually if playstyle is important to you then it's a decent approach to take. If you wanted to do a tank army you might well take the armoured spearhead rite and then look at something like Iron Hands, or Blood Angels to do Angel's Wrath. I'm working on a Ravenguard Recon company.

If you're looking at Pride of the Legion then I think there's a good case for Sons of Horus. Their trait reducing the strength of incoming attacks means terminators and veterans don't get instant killed by S8 in melee. There are plenty of other options though, for example there's an Imperial Fist warlord trait that adds +1 WS to his unit, which is an amazing upgrade for a large terminator squad.

[Rickshaw]

14 hours ago, N1SB said:

Brother Rickshaw, just a word to the wise, please be reminded certain Rites of War can turn units into Troops without making them Scoring "Line Subtype".

I only share this because I nearly made that mistake, but a fellow Frater, Brother Erren, saved me with a catch.  To my recollection, none of the Dark Angels-specific RoWs gives the Line Subtype for Scoring, though they definitely make units into Troops for ease of Force Org Charting.  This may or may not change your planning.

In my case, it actually did a bit.  I ended up using a generic Rite of War that did make the units I want into Scoring Line Subtype, then picked the Legion that fit it the best after.  It's a bit of a horse and cart issue, I actually made my list 1st, then assigned a Legion after.  Because like you, I liked several Legions' respective lore, so I went this (opposite) direction.

Thanks.  I did notice actually.  It's a definite downside, but I think I could work around it.

 

Ive been trying to write a list, but its been over a year since I've played so I feel a bit unsure of every list I make right now.  But I do like that approach.

18 hours ago, Xenith said:

All of those sound cool. What's your favourite army lore-wise? However you already seem to have your eye on Dark Angels. They have a wide range of unique unit choices. 

Perhaps waiting until everyones made andpainted their Mk6 marines from the set so they have to get new models for the new uprades? <\cynicism>

I do have my eye on dark angels.  It's been a while since I've read the lore, I will have to do some reading.

Edited July 20, 2022 by Rickshaw

[Marshal Mittens]

Dark Angels look really great in the Heresy. I would vote for them. They have neat rules too, but their look and lore is just very cool.

 

Personally I am doing dark angels AND Sons of Horus, so I can have two armies to fight one another. 

[Dont-Be-Haten]

I can offer a few ideas. 

White scars are a fairly large barrier to entry at the moment. Unless you can get some STLs those jet bikes are ex-pens-ive! 

Pretty much any army can be in your face turn 2 with the drop pod right, and if you have a few of those from previous 40k editions that's easily one of the best paths to take and it doesn't matter which legion you favor.

If you are looking for early combat, like turn 1 going second. Raven guard offer one of the most aggressive early game combat armies in HH. Infiltrating rhinos for despoiler squads or chain bayonets on tactical legionaires with a 6+ shrug is pretty keen. Just a thought.