Brother Kraskor Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Fulgrim (425) - Laer blade 8 Phoenix Retinue (345) Sonic shriekers, banner Tartaros Centurion (110) Herald, Thunder Hammer Captain Lucius (185) No Laer blade, sonic shrieker Contemptor (195) 2x fist with plasma blastgun Contemptor (195) 2x fist with plasma blastgun 8 Tartaros Terminators (290) Phoenix Spear, 4x Power Fists, 3x Lightning Claws 10 Tacticals (120) Phoenix spear, vexilla 10 Tacticals (120) Phoenix spear, vexilla 8 Sunkillers (325) Augury scanner, lascannons 10 Kakophoni (275) Kratos (410) Flashburn shells, 4x lascannon, flare shield 2995pts - Fulgrim and his Phoenix guard take one flank - Herald + Tartaros, and Lucius + Kakophoni take the other flank. Lucius will spend a turn or two with the kakophoni, targeting enemy units with ICs to give them preferred enemy, before hopping into the Tartaros termies for combat - Kratos and Sunkillers hang way back and blast everything - Tacticals hold homefield objectives - Dreadnoughts troubleshoot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375522-3k-ec-pincer-attack/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Footslogging a large blob of Phoenix Terminators is unlikely to end well unless you're playing in a very soft environment. Their resilience isn't great & their damage output is woeful. You're going to be relying on Fulgrim killing things for them (if they make it there in good enough shape to do anything to begin with), and there are better sources of ablative wounds. Not a fan of the mixed loadout on the unit of Tartaros - jack of all trades, master of none. And as above, footslogging Tartaros is a risky proposition. No artificer armour on any sergeants (e.g. Tacticals, Kakophoni, Sunkillers) is an omission - pretty much always worth it for the situational boost in tankiness. Lucius sitting with Kakophoni is a terrible idea. They gain little and your opponent gains an easy target. Contemptors should have grav (reduce WS on enemy dreads to ensure a one-sided combat in your favour) or melta (threaten vehicles & ID terminators) in their fists. Probably worth tweaking the list to use the Maru Skara ROW if you want footslogging Tartaros. You gain the added threat of outflank and whatever is left on the board will be moving a bit faster. Brother Kraskor and The Scorpion 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375522-3k-ec-pincer-attack/#findComment-5857435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Marshal Loss said: Footslogging a large blob of Phoenix Terminators is unlikely to end well unless you're playing in a very soft environment. Their resilience isn't great & their damage output is woeful. You're going to be relying on Fulgrim killing things for them (if they make it there in good enough shape to do anything to begin with), and there are better sources of ablative wounds. Not a fan of the mixed loadout on the unit of Tartaros - jack of all trades, master of none. And as above, footslogging Tartaros is a risky proposition. No artificer armour on any sergeants (e.g. Tacticals, Kakophoni, Sunkillers) is an omission - pretty much always worth it for the situational boost in tankiness. Lucius sitting with Kakophoni is a terrible idea. They gain little and your opponent gains an easy target. Contemptors should have grav (reduce WS on enemy dreads to ensure a one-sided combat in your favour) or melta (threaten vehicles & ID terminators) in their fists. Probably worth tweaking the list to use the Maru Skara ROW if you want footslogging Tartaros. You gain the added threat of outflank and whatever is left on the board will be moving a bit faster. Thanks Marshal Loss, lots to think about there, appreciate the feedback. Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375522-3k-ec-pincer-attack/#findComment-5857591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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