Valkyrion Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Apart from sounding like a death metal band, this power says: If the psychic check is passed then all non-vehicle models in the target unit may roll a D6. On a roll of 5+ that model regains a single lost wound. If I understand wound allocation correctly, then I can't think of a ready example where more than one model in a unit has lost a wound, but the rules don't seem to prevent me from rolling 10 D6 to heal my one Veteran which has lost a wound as it doesn't specify that only wounded models may roll a D6. Is this shenanigans, or as intended? Because of how wound allocation works then this power isn't that powerful, certainly not compared to turning off reactions or granting 4++ bubbles, but I thought I'd best check as there's every chance I've misunderstood at least one relevant rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375556-thaumaturgic-succour/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 "That model regains a single lost wound" You can roll for the unwounded models too but each die is associated with a different model and only the roll for the wounded model can have any effect. It Will Not Die on Lernean terminators is similarly underwhelming for the same reason; the wound allocation rules almost always require wounded models to take the next hit so most likely you will only get a few rolls for one model across a 5 or 6 turn game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375556-thaumaturgic-succour/#findComment-5858066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrans Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Only time this would be helpful if a hole heap of Gets Hot! wounds went through, as I believe they can only go on the firing mode. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375556-thaumaturgic-succour/#findComment-5858123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Suzerains can all rock a single wound before death due to character. Any terminator unit can have a wounded seargent and a wounded duder. Multiple independent characters and seargents in a death star, that kind of thing. They're all a bit fringe cases, but anyone's opponent seeing the full application of 2nd wounding for the first time is sure to be very frustrated. Especially with the lazy suzans. Valkyrion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375556-thaumaturgic-succour/#findComment-5858136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch5000 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 I have to be honest, I think Thaumatugic Succour sounds a lot more like a black metal band than a death metal band... :D Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375556-thaumaturgic-succour/#findComment-5858212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost_angel Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 9 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said: Suzerains can all rock a single wound before death due to character. Any terminator unit can have a wounded seargent and a wounded duder. Multiple independent characters and seargents in a death star, that kind of thing. They're all a bit fringe cases, but anyone's opponent seeing the full application of 2nd wounding for the first time is sure to be very frustrated. Especially with the lazy suzans. Yeah, don’t think anyone wants to go back to the days of 5th Ed nob bikers - even if it kinda makes this psychic power a bit meh sometimes SkimaskMohawk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375556-thaumaturgic-succour/#findComment-5858238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 5 hours ago, lost_angel said: Yeah, don’t think anyone wants to go back to the days of 5th Ed nob bikers - even if it kinda makes this psychic power a bit meh sometimes Well we're halfway between 4th and 5ths wound allocation currently lol. lost_angel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375556-thaumaturgic-succour/#findComment-5858329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxjtmxxx Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 do this make sense with battle hardend units? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375556-thaumaturgic-succour/#findComment-5858390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 I'd totally missed the reference to Character sub types when allocating rules and falsely assumed it was like the 40k multi wound allocation system - this power makes much more sense now. I wonder what else I've missed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375556-thaumaturgic-succour/#findComment-5858395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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