30k Gatekeeping is alive and well (Got Booted from Anuj's Group)

[Brother_Angelus]

You were trolling though? You joined the group of a former GW employee to harass them over something they no longer have any power to update or errata.

 

Now you're finding other sites to stir the pot. It's pretty pathetic. 

[SkimaskMohawk]

The first screen shot has comments about admins not following their group rules and having double standards, the second about preferred terrain layout/terrain construction for 30k games. 

Neither of those were trolling anuj about the state of the 2nd's rules quality or harassing him over something he doesn't control. 

[Brother_Angelus]

1 hour ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

The first screen shot has comments about admins not following their group rules and having double standards, the second about preferred terrain layout/terrain construction for 30k games. 

Neither of those were trolling anuj about the state of the 2nd's rules quality or harassing him over something he doesn't control. 

They joined a private facebook group with the sole intention of complaining about moderation.

Then they came here and dakka to compare the admins to the Stasi for removing them for being non-productive.

It's clear they despised the new edition and hold the ex employee responsible.

I don't understand how this is worthwhile content for that group or this forum.

Edited August 23, 2022 by Brother_Angelus

[Crablezworth]

 

41 minutes ago, Brother_Angelus said:

You were trolling though? You joined the group of a former GW employee to harass them over something they no longer have any power to update or errata.

 

Now you're finding other sites to stir the pot. It's pretty pathetic. 

Actually if you read the post, you'd see I posted pictures of a game board in relation to the topic, tips and tricks. Had it approved, only to then have it deleted and my account blocked. Nothing about anuj or the group at all. Read it yourself. 

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Crablezworth

[Brother_Angelus]

4 minutes ago, Crablezworth said:

Actually if you read the post, you'd see I posted pictures of a game board in relation to the topic, tips and tricks. Had it approved, only to then have it deleted and my account blocked. Nothing about anuj or the group at all. Read it yourself. 

You also posted in the rules thread criticising the moderation of the group, right?

You can't be surprised your content was deleted and account blocked when one of your first interactions with the group was calling out the admins?

Facebook groups aren't a democracy. Again, what does this have to do with this forum? Why should we care about your facebook drama?

[SkimaskMohawk]

1 hour ago, Brother_Angelus said:

They joined a private facebook group with the sole intention of complaining about moderation.

Then they came here and dakka to compare the admins to the Stasi for removing him for being non-productive.

It's clear they despised the new edition and hold the ex employee responsible.

I don't understand how this is worthwhile content for that group or this forum.

The post about terrain tips/preferences seemed rather completely on-topic for that group and productive, rules-compliant, content; it certainly shows that the only intention of joining wasn't to just complain about the moderation. So if we're at two comments on administrative hypocrisy and one post about tactics and tips (0 group rules broken), what should happen to the people that have only posted once to share their event (2 rules broken)? Or their painted unit (1 rule broken)? Or ask about all the different sizes of power armour next to each other (1 rule broken)? 

The whole context behind that first comment of his was that posts were getting locked, asking why posts were getting locked without explanation were getting locked; escalating into posts getting deleted/people getting kicked for calling out the mod team for making up rules and only allowing pro gw conversation. People were getting irate; admins were accusing many of trolling and not being intelligent, and then that post reminding people to be kind and follow the rules was made. On the back of all that, he called them out for the double standard in the comment, but didn't get kicked. When he went to make a post today, about very on-topic stuff, he got kicked. 

A lot of that couldn't be gleaned from his pictures, fair enough. But, saying 100% of what was shown was trolling, harassment, only meant to complain, and non-productive, is unjustified. 

And how criticism of the state of 2nd's rules is being treated by the writer of 2nd is, imo, fairly pertinent to 30k and the GW hobby. At least as pertinent as posts about so-and-so getting a promotion in GW, or their quarterly earnings, or video games based on the setting, or 3rd party kickstarters. 

Edited August 23, 2022 by SkimaskMohawk

[Rejects of Anvilus]

Personally I find it quite helpful to read threads like this so I can see what is actually going on across different forums/groups rather than the censored versions which is all you see if you aren’t logged in 24 hours a day to see them unfolding. I have left groups because of things like  this in the past, as I disagree with the way some moderators abuse their powers. I also am fully aware that all groups/forums belong to their owners rather than users and they can do what they want, but it doesn’t mean I will want to stay in them.

[ashc]

It sounds like Anuj has a massive ego problem to be honest - it's interesting how lead writers for other games are far more humble regarding the teams and products they work with. Anuj appears to only mention that it was a big team when he wants to deflect criticism but wants all the glory when people have something good to say.

I honestly think he believes that taking over the rules writing for Heresy he would be worshipped like Alan Bligh (which personally I find really odd anyway) and when he isn't getting it he throws his toys out of the pram.

[Crablezworth]

9 minutes ago, ashc said:

It sounds like Anuj has a massive ego problem to be honest - it's interesting how lead writers for other games are far more humble regarding the teams and products they work with. Anuj appears to only mention that it was a big team when he wants to deflect criticism but wants all the glory when people have something good to say.

I honestly think he believes that taking over the rules writing for Heresy he would be worshipped like Alan Bligh (which personally I find really odd anyway) and when he isn't getting it he throws his toys out of the pram.

Well humble isn't exactly what's been on display. This is a direct quote of his on the launch of the 2.0 trailer from his linkedin, particular note of congratulating the team and games workshop for working along side him, not for the awesome ruleset, comes off like they're lucky to have known the guy. And I mean it was a great trailer, it's just a shame the follow through in terms of new edition has been so divisive and objectively poorly handled at the print/edit level. "Incredibly proud to have developed the new edition of the Horus Heresy game system, and congrats to all the team at Games Workshop who worked alongside me on this. What a fantastic announce trailer!"  

[Crablezworth]

58 minutes ago, spinitron said:

Personally I find it quite helpful to read threads like this so I can see what is actually going on across different forums/groups rather than the censored versions which is all you see if you aren’t logged in 24 hours a day to see them unfolding. I have left groups because of things like  this in the past, as I disagree with the way some moderators abuse their powers. I also am fully aware that all groups/forums belong to their owners rather than users and they can do what they want, but it doesn’t mean I will want to stay in them.

Well I just think for every member booted, warranted or not, no one is saying much about it. Nothing special about my case other than being booted for posting something objectively on topic, but I just feel compelled to not keep this to myself, this admin is the author of the new edition and he's treating people poorly who just want to understand the books enough to play.  

Edited August 23, 2022 by Crablezworth

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