Prohect Log: Literally my first ever Miniatures

[hd3]

So someone suggested I do a prohect log of starting my 40k collection.

Rate my setup etc. 

 

Im using the 40k paints and tools set. The mold scraper has been  good for getting mold lines off but as you can see below, im having trouble getting the sprur nubs off clearly. Especially on the necron gaiss flayer.

 

These are push assembly rather thab glue too and I accidentally clipped the necrons foot pin. So Ive fixed it with some deluxe material plastoc cement

Edited August 31, 2022 by hd3

[hd3]

Undercoat time! Its raining today so im using the empty room! 

Edited August 31, 2022 by hd3

[hd3]

Im applying a base cost of warplock bronze to the necron but I think  I've thinned it too much. Any tips on the right amount of water for the metallic paints? 

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[hd3]

The mcragge blue for the primaris marine is going on much easier .  I had to go pick up new brushes for base and dry because the ones i bought originally were way too hard for any control. I think that might be why the first coat of warplock came out so poorly

Edited August 31, 2022 by hd3

[Pearson73]

Off to a nice start! Documenting your progress is a nice way to motivate yourself and find advice too. 

 

I actually think the Necron is looking really cool with the metallic effect so far. That said, if you want to go back with more metals, less is more when it comes to adding water, it's definitely easy to over dilute!

[Grotsmasha]

Coming along nicely

 

I typically thin metallics less than traditional paints. However, if you do over thin it, spread it out a bit, then wait a couple of mins (~5 or so), and will usually dry out enough to be a usable consistency.

[hd3]

1 hour ago, Pearson73 said:

Off to a nice start! Documenting your progress is a nice way to motivate yourself and find advice too. 

 

I actually think the Necron is looking really cool with the metallic effect so far. That said, if you want to go back with more metals, less is more when it comes to adding water, it's definitely easy to over dilute!

Thanks! I'll add a bit less water next time!

1 hour ago, Grotsmasha said:

Coming along nicely

 

I typically thin metallics less than traditional paints. However, if you do over thin it, spread it out a bit, then wait a couple of mins (~5 or so), and will usually dry out enough to be a usable consistency.

I'll do that! How many dtops of water should I add to drops of paint?

[hd3]

I had a lot of difficulty gettibg the paint to stick to the underside of the necrons right hand. I don't like the lack of control with the base brush.

Edited September 1, 2022 by hd3

[hd3]

Finally finished the base coats! 

[Doghouse]

These coming along nicely, I really like the Necron espeically.

[Xenith]

Good start so far, the necron is looking great. 

You can carefully use a modelling knife/scalpel to shave off the remaining sprue nubs on the models. You've built up that colour nicely on the ultramarine, however it might get time consuming over the black undercoat - consider maybe a grey or even blue undercoat to speed things up! 

[hd3]

30 minutes ago, Doghouse said:

These coming along nicely, I really like the Necron espeically.

Thank you! I found a really good alternative colour guide for the szarekahn which im  trying.

https://taleofpainters.com/2021/08/tutorial-how-to-speedpaint-necron-szarekhan-dynasty-armour/

 

Edited August 31, 2022 by hd3

[hd3]

21 minutes ago, Xenith said:

Good start so far, the necron is looking great. 

You can carefully use a modelling knife/scalpel to shave off the remaining sprue nubs on the models. You've built up that colour nicely on the ultramarine, however it might get time consuming over the black undercoat - consider maybe a grey or even blue undercoat to speed things up! 

I actually just ordered the command set and was debating what chapter to make them. If I went ultras or blood angels, what shade should I use for undercoat?

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[Majkhel]

For the metallics, it's often better not to thin with water. I've found glazing medium (I'm using the one from Vallejo) to work much better and safer in terms of pigment distribution inside the mix. Alternative is to use another brand of paints as GW colors tend to be rather thick (it's not a bad thing on its own, it's just a characteristic).
Good luck with your painting journey!

[Khulu]

Off to a great start!

[hd3]

22 minutes ago, Majkhel said:

For the metallics, it's often better not to thin with water. I've found glazing medium (I'm using the one from Vallejo) to work much better and safer in terms of pigment distribution inside the mix. Alternative is to use another brand of paints as GW colors tend to be rather thick (it's not a bad thing on its own, it's just a characteristic).
Good luck with your painting journey!

https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/product/hobby/auxiliaries-model/glaze-medium-70596/

 

This stuff? Do you just mix it in with the paint like water?

[Majkhel]

1 hour ago, hd3 said:

https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/product/hobby/auxiliaries-model/glaze-medium-70596/

 

This stuff? Do you just mix it in with the paint like water?

Yeah that's the stuff. And yes, like water. But only just a bit of it as it will also make the paint dry longer. So if you overdo it, it might actually take up to 2-3 hours for the paint dry :D.
Also if you make the paint run too much, you can always touch the brush to a paper towel to remove the excess of moisture/medium before you apply the paint on mini.

[Grotsmasha]

Having just painted 120+ PL of Szarekhan for a commission, I can save you some steps in that paint job,

1- Spray Runelord Brass
2- Wash with either Riekland Fleshshade (lighter) or Agrax Earthshade (darker)
3- Black Legion Contrast for the black areas, basically everything that isn't armour, if doing edge highlights use Eshin Grey.
4- Canoptek Alloy on all the shoulders, this can also be used as an edge highlight on the armour panels.
5- Colour of your choice for the eyes, gun glow.

 

On 8/18/2022 at 12:36 PM, Grotsmasha said:

So here is my "1st" vow complete,

 

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On 8/23/2022 at 11:53 PM, Grotsmasha said:

What was I even worried about..... vow 2 Complete

 

 

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[hd3]

15 hours ago, Majkhel said:

For the metallics, it's often better not to thin with water. I've found glazing medium (I'm using the one from Vallejo) to work much better and safer in terms of pigment distribution inside the mix. Alternative is to use another brand of paints as GW colors tend to be rather thick (it's not a bad thing on its own, it's just a characteristic).
Good luck with your painting journey!

Interesting! Do you just mix the glazing medium in with the paint likevwater?

 

Ive tried overbrushing the necron with brass scorpion but I think I left too much paint on the brush . Ive also tried doing a recess shade with the ultramarine. Im not sure if the brish lacks control or my hands shake too much 

[hd3]

Here, I've tried dry brushing the necron warrior with runelord brass. Again, im worried I went overboard with the paint. I think im probably going to need to touch up the joints and recesses with maybe abaddon black or agrax earthshade. And then leadbelcher for the nuts and bolts. 

 

These aren't my final paint choices, just what came in the paint set. Im going to buy the ones grotsnasha suggested above when my command set gets here.

 

Im noticing having to hold the model on the unconfortable box lid its taped to is difficult. Does anyone have any suggestion for holding the model? A stand or easel etc. which is good for height

Ive added abaddon black to the armor seals, weapons and joints. As you can see I slipped in a few places so if anyone has any tips on greater brush control for tricky spots or touchibg up bades, please feel free to comment.

Edited September 1, 2022 by hd3

[hd3]

14 hours ago, Grotsmasha said:

Having just painted 120+ PL of Szarekhan for a commission, I can save you some steps in that paint job,

1- Spray Runelord Brass
2- Wash with either Riekland Fleshshade (lighter) or Agrax Earthshade (darker)
3- Black Legion Contrast for the black areas, basically everything that isn't armour, if doing edge highlights use Eshin Grey.
4- Canoptek Alloy on all the shoulders, this can also be used as an edge highlight on the armour panels.
5- Colour of your choice for the eyes, gun glow.

 

  

 

Yeah, I was hoping to avoid it because one can of runelord brass is so expensive but I guess its inevitable.

[Grotsmasha]

Cans really are a convenience tax,...

[Pearson73]

Unfortunately for brush control, all I can really offer is practice, practice, practice.... As for holdin the mini, I typically just use my hand, but I've also heard good things about the GW holder. If you have a GW nearby, perhaps you could try one before buying?

I think a nice dark recess wash will really boost that Necron, looking forward to the next update!

[Majkhel]

4 hours ago, hd3 said:

Interesting! Do you just mix the glazing medium in with the paint like water?

Yes. When you want a metallic paint to run more smoothly that is. There are brands like Vallejo Metal Color that don't need this kind of treatment. And brands like GW or Scale75, that really benefit from being a little diluted to run smoother from the brush.

Just remember that glazing medium also extends the drying time a bit, so use it sparingly. 

 

For the overbrush - as with most drybrushing techniques, the idea is to have reaaaally little paint on the brush. Like seriously little. Dab the brush in paint, remove like 95% of it on a paper towel, then remove some more, test on a hand or some other surface (you should be getting a delicate powder-like result) and only then touch the mini. 

Edited September 1, 2022 by Majkhel

[hd3]

2 hours ago, Pearson73 said:

Unfortunately for brush control, all I can really offer is practice, practice, practice.... As for holdin the mini, I typically just use my hand, but I've also heard good things about the GW holder. If you have a GW nearby, perhaps you could try one before buying?

I think a nice dark recess wash will really boost that Necron, looking forward to the next update!

Yeah, I'm planning a wash with agrax and contrast med. Should I paint black on the joints before or after though?