3k Emperor's Children Maru Skara

[Brother Kraskor]

Been rattling round a few list iterations. Would be grateful for your thoughts. 

 

Captain Lucius (185) Warlord, No Laer Blade, Sonic Shrieker

Tartaros Herald (135) Thunder Hammer, Grenade harness, Sonic Shrieker

Champion (135) Jump pack, Paragon blade, Sonic Shrieker

 

Tartaros Terminator Squad (292) 8 men, vexilla, 4 power fists, 3 lightning claws, 1 volkite charger

Contemptor Talon (360) 2 dreads, both melta cannon & CCW

Palatine Blades (355) 10 men, 6 power axes, 4 phoenix spears

Apothecarion (235) 4 men, 1 jump pack, 4 artificer armour

 

Tactical Squad (120) 10 men, Phoenix spear, vexilla

Assault Squad (170) 10 men, power fist, artificer armour

 

Kratos (410) Flashburn shells, 4 lascannon, flare shield

Sunkillers (325) 8 men, augury scanner

Kakophoni (275) 10 men

2997pts

 

Rough plan

Open Blade: Tartaros present main roadblock with Herald, counter-chargers/frontline holders keeping the opponent off my backline. Backline consists of Tacticals, Kratos, Sunkillers, and Kakophoni (latter two each taking an Apothecary). Hopefully a robust amount of shooting from all that.

Hidden Blade: Palatines with Lucius and both Contemptors will Outflank Turn 2. Palatines take an Apothecary. I'm hoping they will hit mega hard, lots of AP2, lots of Murderous Strike, making even enemy WS5 hit them on 6s. Contemptors take enemy armour.

Flexible: Assault marines and Champion plus final Apothecary. These can join the Hidden Blade, or they can Deep strike (though this means they might not arrive until later), or they can deploy as normal as a counter-charger. 

 

[dicebod]

I like the thinking here, but the biggest thing that sticks out to me is that you don't have a whole lot in the way of scoring, even with the Herald. Plus, he's not impossible to snipe out leaving you with a terminator squad that your opponent can probably just ignore or shoot at their leisure.

[darkseren1ty]

2 squads of line troops. Not good for a 3k point game. Unless you plan to table everyone- you’re going to lose the objective game.

[Brother Kraskor]

On 9/12/2022 at 2:04 PM, dicebod said:

I like the thinking here, but the biggest thing that sticks out to me is that you don't have a whole lot in the way of scoring, even with the Herald. Plus, he's not impossible to snipe out leaving you with a terminator squad that your opponent can probably just ignore or shoot at their leisure.

 

On 9/13/2022 at 11:20 AM, darkseren1ty said:

2 squads of line troops. Not good for a 3k point game. Unless you plan to table everyone- you’re going to lose the objective game.

Thanks both, I think you're right. I wonder do I drop the Apothecarion entirely and go for two more 10-man Tac squads? I'd lose durability across the board but come up to 5 Line units. I'd be loathe to cut an offensive capability so maybe this is the way forward.

So this:

 

Captain Lucius (185) Warlord, No Laer Blade, Sonic Shrieker

Tartaros Herald (135) Thunder Hammer, Grenade harness, Sonic Shrieker

Champion (135) Jump pack, Paragon blade, Sonic Shrieker

 

Tartaros Terminator Squad (290) 8 men, 4 power fists, 3 lightning claws, vexilla

Contemptor Talon (360) 2 dreads, both melta cannon & CCW

Palatine Blades (355) 10 men, 6 power axes, 4 phoenix spears

 

Tactical Squad (120) 10 men, Phoenix spear, vexilla

Tactical Squad (120) 10 men, Phoenix spear, vexilla

Tactical Squad (120) 10 men, Phoenix spear, vexilla

Assault Squad (170) 10 men, power fist, artificer armour

 

Kratos (410) Flashburn shells, 4 lascannon, flare shield

Sunkillers (325) 8 men, augury scanner

Kakophoni (275) 10 men

3000pts

Edited September 15, 2022 by Brother Kraskor

[TheNineteenth]

On 9/12/2022 at 7:52 AM, Brother Kraskor said:

Hidden Blade: Palatines with Lucius and both Contemptors will Outflank Turn 2. Palatines take an Apothecary. I'm hoping they will hit mega hard, lots of AP2, lots of Murderous Strike, making even enemy WS5 hit them on 6s. Contemptors take enemy armour.

Unfortunately, best I can tell, these attached characters can no longer Outflank/Flank Assault with The Maru Skara. In Anuj's wisdom, he deleted the "and attached independent characters" from the RoW in the new version (which was in the prior Red Book version).

Edited September 17, 2022 by TheNineteenth

[Brother Kraskor]

On 9/17/2022 at 3:40 AM, TheNineteenth said:

Unfortunately, best I can tell, these attached characters can no longer Outflank/Flank Assault with The Maru Skara. In Anuj's wisdom, he deleted the "and attached independent characters" from the RoW in the new version (which was in the prior Red Book version).

Ah yes you're right. Grr. Here is the latest iteration then:

 

Lucius (185) No Laer Blade, Sonic Shrieker

Phoenix Retinue (250) 6 men, banner

Tartaros Herald (135) Thunder Hammer, Grenade harness, Sonic Shrieker

Champion (135) Paragon Blade, Jump pack, Sonic Shrieker

 

Tartaros Terminator Squad (280) 8 men, 1 phoenix spear, 4 power fists, 3 lightning claws

Contemptor Talon (360) 2 dreads, 2 melta cannon, 2 CCW

Palatine Blades (375) 10 men, 5 power axes, 4 phoenix spears, 1 charnabal weapon, Sonic Shriekers

Apothecarion (90) 2 men

 

Tactical Squad (110) 10 men, Phoenix spear

Assault Squad (160) 10 men, power fist

 

Kratos (410) Flashburn shells, 4 lascannon, flare shield

Heavy Support Squad (235) 8 men, lascannon, augury scanner

Kakophoni (275) 10 men

3000pts

 

Palatines and Kakophoni each take an Apothecary. Palatines and Contemptors Outflank.