Line units

[Jackalope]

Long time lurker, first time poster….I was wondering how many scoring units y’all tended to use in your groups.

I’ve been using 4, but they seem to melt pretty quickly. 

[Dont-Be-Haten]

5 minutes ago, Jackalope said:

Long time lurker, first time poster….I was wondering how many scoring units y’all tended to use in your groups.

I’ve been using 4, but they seem to melt pretty quickly. 

I run 3 line squads in 2,000 point games 2 tactical squads with apothecaries and a jump pack squad. Has done well for me.

[Marshal Mittens]

I'm not a tourney player, but for me I like 3 squads of 20 with an apothocary if theirs points, in cover on an objective. It's a bit of points, but they take a while to die. 

[Beerhammer]

It depends on what legion also. Which one are you playing?

[Jackalope]

28 minutes ago, Beerhammer said:

It depends on what legion also. Which one are you playing?

I play Night Lords…usually 1 recon, 2 tactical, 1 assault. 
 

I haven’t thought about using apothecaries…I’ll need to try that.

[Brother_Angelus]

4 at 2k. 2 x 5 recons with nemesis, 2 x 15 tacticals with apothecaries. The recons can babysit home objectives and the tacticals blob up on neutral or enemy ones. With +1 to wound from outnumbering the tacticals can do a surprising amount of damage through sheer weight of fire, and sustain really well with 4+ FNP on an objective.

Going up to 3k i'd probably bulk out the tacticals to maximum numbers, but otherwise take more non-line units to distract from and protect them. Possibly a termy command squad or termy Herald in a termy unit to bring another offensive scoring unit.

Edited September 30, 2022 by Brother_Angelus

[Dont-Be-Haten]

So here's a bit more insight into how I work with line in my army. 3-4 line units is more than enough in standard games. Due to how missions work and denial units. In 40k troops are more like a tax. In 30k they are actually good. But everything denies.

A lot of this depends on how you play, what missions you play i.e. events etc. With the core rule book missions; scoring is less important for line, because some of the missions makes "x" unit also scoring, or only matters at the end of the game.

I build my troop options around killing other players troops. So an Assault Squad with Power Maces and dual Raven Talon sergeant with a chaplain goes further in it makes the Assault Squad LD 10 and Stubborn. It has a brutal effect on opposing units and picks on things like recon squads or other assault squads. I use Snipers as staples in every list to take out Apothecaries and sergeants on rending hits so they can't use a 2+ to tank shots with a FnP buffer.

If you aren't going to take Apothecaries you should take Rhinos. The average tactical squad after upgrades is about 140-170sh points each for me, so I want to keep them safe and mobile. Rhinos offer small arms fire immunity and are very fast to put your troops where they need to be.

[SkimaskMohawk]

It kind of completely depends on the strategy you have for your list. Is it to hold ground and counter attack your opponents when they engage? Is it to put a lot of offensive pressure out and target their scoring units? A mixture of both? I've easily won games with 3 scoring units in 3000 points, and I've lost games with 5 scoring units in 2000; making a good list is better than hitting an arbitrary number of scoring units.

This also kind of relates to the units as well. A list designed around holding ground won't be well served with 3x 5 naked recons on the objectives; a list meant to cause offensive pressure won't do the best with full tac blobs. 

Theres more I could go into; kill point ratio, damage limits of basic troops vs other scoring units, throwaway units, etc...But it really just goes back into having a good strategy and building a list around that.

[ImNegan]

I ran pride of the legion the other day with two veteran squads being line and a herald in my Sekhmet making them line also. All three squads were damn hard to shift off objectives once on them.