No Foes Remain Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 So with most of this list built I figured I probably should get some advice on it, as it stands it's meant to be a general list not tailored for anything in particular but it's first match-up will be against custodians however with their rules yet to be out I've no idea how they'll perform against them. + HQ: + Centurion [95Pts]: Artificer Armour, Lightning Claw, Minor Combi-Weapon - Flamer, Power Weapon: Carsoran Power Axe + Elites: + Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [225Pts] Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Lascannon, Gravis Lascannon, Helical Targeting Array Terminator Tartaros Squad [250Pts] Tartaros Sergeant: Combi-Bolter, Power Weapon: Carsoran Power Axe Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Lightning Claw x3 Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist x2 Tartaros: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter x1 + Troops: + Tactical Squad [160Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chainsword 8x Legionaries: Chainsword Legionary: Legion Vexilla, Chainsword Tactical Squad [160Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chainsword 8x Legionaries Chainsword Legionary: Legion Vexilla, Chainsword Tactical Squad [160Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chainsword 8x Legionaries Chainsword Legionary: Legion Vexilla, Chainsword Tactical Support Squad [135Pts]: Plasma Gun + Fast Attack: + Seeker Squad [105Pts] + Heavy Support: + Sicaran Squadron [210Pts] 2x Lascannons, Pintle Mounted Heavy Bolter With reports of mixed results on plasma guns I've been tempted to swap them out but I'm not sure what with, the upcoming Scorpius would do it and leave me 15 points to spare or I could swap them for a missile launcher heavy support squad with the same points to spare. The Scorpion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376455-sons-of-horus-1500pts-starter-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Legionnare Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) Apparently they're out soon, so we'll see! My only advice would be that if you're not going for a RoW, lose the pintle HB and other things to free up some points to make that centurion into a "Champion" which gets him WS6 and a paragon blade. Replace his axe with the paragon blade (leave it modeled as an axe for SoH-prettyness factor of course) and you'll still get the +1A from claw+the blade, but the bigger WS to help with challenges/fights. Furthermore, champion has some morale mechanics that can make his unit fearless when challenging (Even if he gets pimp-slapped into the dirt and loses), which can be valuable. Further-furthermore, the paragon blade, while not terribly reliable at it, will get you some "Instant-Death" in melee against other multi-wound marines and custodes, which you have none of. Edited November 5, 2022 by Dark Legionnare LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376455-sons-of-horus-1500pts-starter-list/#findComment-5881506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 Yeah, for this starter I didn't see any point in taking any RoW also don't want to fixate lists on them too much. I also did not notice that the paragon blade for the champion is free, I thought you had to pay for it on top of the 30pts, so hell yeah I'm swapping that out. With that in mind I cut out the plasma squad and replaced them with the scorpius, then changed one squad's chainswords to chain-bayonetts and gave all three squad nuncio voxes to help get better blasts from the Scorpius though not 100% on them. + HQ: + Centurion [115Pts]: Champion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Lightning Claw, Paragon Blade, Minor Combi-Weapon - Flamer + Elites: + Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [225Pts] Gravis Lascannon, Gravis Lascannon, Helical Targeting Array Terminator Tartaros Squad [250Pts] Tartaros Sergeant: Combi-Bolter, Carsoran Power Axe Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Lightning Claw x3 Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist x2 Tartaros: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter + Troops: + Tactical Squad [172Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chainsword 9x Chainsword, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox Tactical Squad [172Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chainsword 9x Chainsword, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox Tactical Squad [140Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chain Bayonet x9 Chain Bayonet, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox + Fast Attack: + Seeker Squad [105Pts] + Heavy Support: + Scorpius [120Pts]: Sicaran [200pts]: 2x Lascannons Brings me to 1499pts total. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376455-sons-of-horus-1500pts-starter-list/#findComment-5881543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Legionnare Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 17 hours ago, No Foes Remain said: Yeah, for this starter I didn't see any point in taking any RoW also don't want to fixate lists on them too much. I also did not notice that the paragon blade for the champion is free, I thought you had to pay for it on top of the 30pts, so hell yeah I'm swapping that out. With that in mind I cut out the plasma squad and replaced them with the scorpius, then changed one squad's chainswords to chain-bayonetts and gave all three squad nuncio voxes to help get better blasts from the Scorpius though not 100% on them. + HQ: + Centurion [115Pts]: Champion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Lightning Claw, Paragon Blade, Minor Combi-Weapon - Flamer + Elites: + Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [225Pts] Gravis Lascannon, Gravis Lascannon, Helical Targeting Array Terminator Tartaros Squad [250Pts] Tartaros Sergeant: Combi-Bolter, Carsoran Power Axe Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Lightning Claw x3 Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist x2 Tartaros: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter + Troops: + Tactical Squad [172Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chainsword 9x Chainsword, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox Tactical Squad [172Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chainsword 9x Chainsword, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox Tactical Squad [140Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chain Bayonet x9 Chain Bayonet, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox + Fast Attack: + Seeker Squad [105Pts] + Heavy Support: + Scorpius [120Pts]: Sicaran [200pts]: 2x Lascannons Brings me to 1499pts total. Yeah. The champion has always been a sleeper favorite of mine, in 1.0 and 2.0, not least of all because the official sculpt for him rocks. I like the changes. Cleaned up that list nice and tidy! The scorpius is a good platform, and as a trade for the plasma lads, very good. No longer AP3 by default, but as long as it's standing still, it's doing work with the AP2 potential. Good against termies and any multi-wound 2+ save elite marines. The nuncios will help a good deal with the scorpius, but also think of them as the night-fighting help. Don't underestimate that "ignores night fight leadership penalty" it provides. Having your basic squads maintain LD8 compared to 7 is a big deal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376455-sons-of-horus-1500pts-starter-list/#findComment-5881685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 I think that one will be a general list that I run, just read about the night fighting as I didn't know that had been changed and those nuncios will be more handy that I thought. However, with more info about the Custodes has come out I've made some adjustments to the list since probably facing them when my friend and I go up to Warhammer World. So I thought I'd change a few things to allow me to better deal with the mass of buggery that will be the golden boys, which is as follows. + HQ: + Centurion [95Pts]: Lightning Claw; Minor Combi-Weapon - Flamer; Carsoran Power Axe + Elites: + Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [215Pts] Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Lascannon, Gravis Lascannon Terminator Tartaros Squad [210Pts] Tartaros Sergeant: Combi-Bolter; Carsoran Power Axe Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Lightning Claw x3 Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist x2 + Troops: + Despoiler Squad [140Pts] Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Carsoran Power Axe 5x Despoilers Despoiler: Legion Vexilla Despoiler: Nuncio-Vox Despoiler: Carsoran Power Axe x2 Tactical Squad [140Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chain Bayonet 7x Legionaries: Chain Bayonet Legionary: Chain Bayonet, Legion Vexilla Legionary: Chain Bayonet, Nuncio-Vox Tactical Squad [140Pts] Legion Tactical Sergeant: Chain Bayonet 7x Legionaries: Chain Bayonet Legionary: Chain Bayonet, Legion Vexilla Legionary: Chain Bayonet, Nuncio-Vox + Fast Attack: + Seeker Squad [105Pts] Sky-Hunter Squadron [135Pts] Legion Sky-Hunter Sergeant: Heavy Bolter Legion Sky-Hunter: Multi-Melta Legion Sky-Hunter: Multi-Melta + Heavy Support: + Scorpius [120Pts]: Sicaran [200Pts]: 2x Lascannons At bang on 1,500pts I've evolved the idea of the first list into a more combaty one. General idea would be that the Nuncios help the Scorpius attempt to pin the custodian squads before the tacticals/dispoilers shoot/charge them. I know I'll be lucky to get some pinning on the Custodians but if I do and the Dispoilers get to charge them, then that would be a ton of extra attacks to hopefully wear them down just by pure numbers which is why the Carason Axes are there. 5+ chance at AP2 in Initiative with the rest of the unit, I'll take it. Unless I get charged first then they all die. Knocked the Champion down to a Centurion as he'd just get mulched by Custodians that he'd have to challenge anyway (and would probably loose), so he'd be 'hiding' with the termies who I'd hope to use to wear down with attacks and get a possible 1 shot with the power fists. Seekers and Sky-Hunters (banking on the rumours for plastic models of them coming soon) will attempt to get rid of annoying targets or hard hitters with the Sicaran and Contemptor on anti-armour/heavy infantry duties. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376455-sons-of-horus-1500pts-starter-list/#findComment-5882570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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