Brother Kraskor Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) I know Armoured Breakthrough isn't great, but hope this might be able to at least give a good account of itself: +HQ+ Sicaran Commander (207) Warlord, Accelerator autocannon, lascannon sponsons, hull-mounted shrapnel cannon, hunter-killer missile Cataphractii Warsmith (177) Thunder hammer, volkite charger, grenade harness - Cataphractii Retinue (278) 1 Banner bearer with thunder hammer, 4 chosen with thunder hammers and volkite chargers - Dedicated Land Raider Proteus (235) Hull-mounted lascannon +Elites+ Iron Circle Maniple (285) 2 Domitar-ferrum Techmarine Covenant (201) 3 techmarines with power axes, volkite chargers, nuncio-voxes +Troops+ Tactical Squad (153) Sergeant with power fist and shrapnel bolter, 9 marines with shrapnel bolters - Dedicated Land Raider Proteus (235) Hull-mounted lascannon Tactical Squad (153) Sergeant with power fist and shrapnel bolter, 9 marines with shrapnel bolters - Dedicated Land Raider Proteus (235) Hull-mounted lascannon Tactical Squad (153) Sergeant with power fist and shrapnel bolter, 9 marines with shrapnel bolters - Dedicated Land Raider Proteus (235) Hull-mounted lascannon +Heavy Support+ Scorpius Squadron (225) 2 whirlwinds Scorpius Squadron (225) 2 whirlwinds 2997pts The hope is that the Scorpius squadrons can unseat the biggest threat to the list, lascannon heavies who can return fire at my battle tanks. Any of the tacticals can hop out their LR to give the re-roll to scatter as needed, but the plan is to keep all the infantry inside their vehicles for as long as I can get away with for the mission. Enemy small arms are effectively neutered provided I can keep the tanks running (and having a Battlemsith inside each transport should certainly help with that). Enemy armour should be wrecked in short order with the sea of S10 lascannon. Next on the list will be terminators. Four line units is probably the minimum but I'm hoping the fact they are encased in AV14 should let them last long enough to score as needed. Iron Circle troubleshoot as necessary. The list doesn't make much use of the IW advanced reaction (or indeed many reactions at all) but it does lean into the +1S vs vehicles/dreads. Edited November 9, 2022 by Brother Kraskor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376473-iw-various-ideas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I like the idea of using Scorpius(es?) to hit those lascannon squads. To be honest I'm not sure how common those squads will really be, but that aoe will still be useful regardless of what you meet. They'd be devastating to Solar Auxilia. Brother Kraskor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376473-iw-various-ideas/#findComment-5881886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Lists all still very much at concept stage. Reducing to 2k as something more to work towards, this feels very Iron Warriors: +HQ+ Cataphractii Warsmith (177) Warlord (Stoic Defender) Thunder hammer, volkite charger, grenade harness - Cataphractii Retinue (226) 1 banner bearer with thunder hammer, 3 chosen with thunder hammers and volkite chargers - Dedicated Land Raider Proteus (235) Hull-mounted lascannon Cataphractii Siege Breaker (147) Thunder hammer, volkite charger +Elites+ Rapier Battery (195) 3x laser destroyers Rapier Battery (160) 2x quad launchers with frag and phosphex +Troops+ Tactical Squad (130) Sergeant with lightning claw and shrapnel bolter, 9 marines with shrapnel bolters Tactical Squad (130) Sergeant with lightning claw and shrapnel bolter, 9 marines with shrapnel bolters Tactical Squad (130) Sergeant with lightning claw and shrapnel bolter, 9 marines with shrapnel bolters +Heavy Support+ Predator Squadron (245) 2 tanks with predator cannon and lascannon sponsons Scorpius Squadron (225) 2 tanks 2000pts Could run with either IW-specific RoW. Massed shrapnel bolters at close range, or more reliable barrage at close range, guess I can always experiment and see. Siege breaker will apply Sunder to the laser destroyers - they'll now be S10 AP1 Sunder Exoshock(6+), no tank is surviving that! Edited November 7, 2022 by Brother Kraskor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376473-iw-various-ideas/#findComment-5882076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) Now this feels nasty: +Rite of War+ Pride of the Legion +HQ+ Cataphractii Warsmith (177) Thunder hammer, volkite charger, grenade harness - Cataphractii Retinue (226) Banner bearer with thunder hammer, 3 chosen with thunder hammers and volkite chargers - Land Raider Proteus (235) Hull lascannon Praevian (110) Cyber-familiar - Castellax Maniple (430) 4 castellax with darkfire cannon Siege Breaker (105) Warlord, Tyrant of Lyssatra +Elites+ Rapier Battery (240) 3 quad launchers with frag and phosphex +Troops+ Tactical Squad (120) 10 marines with Shrapnel bolters Tactical Squad (120) 10 marines with Shrapnel bolters Tactical Squad (120) 10 marines with Shrapnel bolters Tactical Squad (120) 10 marines with Shrapnel bolters Cataphractii Squad (210) 5 terminators with lightning claws and combi-bolters, grenade harness Cataphractii Squad (210) 5 terminators with lightning claws and combi-bolters, grenade harness +Heavy Support+ Tyrant Siege Squad (575) 10 terminators 2998pts You don't really want to be at any range from this army. Tyrants (3 shots each on the krak rocket thanks to Warlord), Proteus, Castellax (with S8 & Sunder vs vehicles/dreads/automata thanks to IW trait and the Siege Breaker) all have long range and nasty firepower. As you get closer, you are hit with a sea of pinning bolters and phosphex shells. Seven Line units so plenty of mission scoring. Definitely needs to tackle assault units before they reach their lines, but if they do then the terminators of various kinds are capable of a resilient counter-punch. Edited November 9, 2022 by Brother Kraskor Lord Krungharr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376473-iw-various-ideas/#findComment-5882501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 Or: +Rite of War+ Hammer of Olympia +HQ+ Cataphractii Warsmith (172) Warlord (Stoic Defender) Thunder hammer, volkite charger - Cataphractii Retinue (226) Banner bearer with thunder hammer, 3 chosen with thunder hammers and volkite chargers - Land Raider Proteus (235) Hull lascannon Praevian (110) Cyber-familiar - Castellax Maniple (325) 3 castellax with darkfire cannon Vigilator (95) +Troops+ Tactical Squad (120) 10 marines with Shrapnel bolters Tactical Squad (120) 10 marines with Shrapnel bolters Tactical Squad (120) 10 marines with Shrapnel bolters Tactical Squad (120) 10 marines with Shrapnel bolters +Heavy Support+ Tyrant Siege Squad (300) 5 terminators Predator Squadron (269) 2 tanks with predator cannon, lascannon sponsons, shrapnel cannon Leviathan Talon (660) 2 dreadnoughts with double cyclonic melta lances and phosphex dischargers 2997pts This list has a lot of pinning (Warsmith, Vigilator, 4x tac squads, Predators) to try and keep the enemy in place while they get pounded with shooting. A serious volume of high strength weapons and a lot of AP2/AP1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376473-iw-various-ideas/#findComment-5883389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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