Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 So it seems to me they did a good job of making mechanized armies viable again. obviously there’s the mech rule, and a number of other rules the mesh well with it (SatW, heirloom weapons, geurrilas) now we learn about the armored fist strat. Mechanized lists can be fast and very mobile, or fairly mobile and more deadly. i am pretty happy about this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 Plus the mount up strat. pop out, shoot, jump back in, ready to go next turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I was just reading that on goonhammer and yea this looks good. Maybe at least some lists won't be bottom tier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, TechCaptain said: I was just reading that on goonhammer and yea this looks good. Maybe at least some lists won't be bottom tier. and i just realized not that long ago, you can hop out, shoot, mount up, and then shoot the lasgun array as well. TechCaptain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 And that is using only one part of the two parts you get for regimental tactics. The only bad part. (And it’s understandable.) is lack of keywords on the super heavy. The Banehammer still would provide nice transport then with Tack Ace can give it a 5 up invul and 5 up against mortals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 Watched auspex tactics’ codex break down last night and I’ve been over looking the armored fist strat as well to reroll wound rolls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 So...Taurox or Chimera? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) Quick question guys as I try to wrap my head around it. Scions can choose 2 keywords from the doctrines, replacing the old tempestus regiments right? So I could have mech scions? Edited November 14, 2022 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, Sete said: Quick question guys as I try to wrap my head around it. Scions can choose 2 keywords from the doctrines, replacing the old tempestus regiments right? So I could have mech scions? Yes Can mount up be used to potentially spoil a charge? Like, you disembark the infantry in front of the transport to screen it. Opponent announces a charge against your infantry get a successful charge and then you use mount up, hiding your infantry safely away from the enemy charge inside a vehicle 3” away? 1 hour ago, Sawtooth said: So...Taurox or Chimera? Need to get a look at the taurox data sheet, but officers 100% in a chimera. Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) Sadly no, no regiment stuff for scions, so no picking two traits and no born soldiers Could they make the taurox prime worse you ask, you don't even want to know No idea what to do with mine now Buy kasarkin they get all the rules not all doom and gloom according to MG, see vid Edited November 14, 2022 by Emperor Ming Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 I wonder what the best way to build a mech list without the mech rule will be. i can imagine elite sharpshooters and geurillas loaded into transports won’t be too bad of an option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said: Sadly no, no regiment stuff for scions, so no picking two traits and no born soldiers Could they make the taurox prime worse you ask, you don't even want to know No idea what to do with mine now Buy kasarkin they get all the rules not all doom and gloom according to MG, see vid Cheers for the link! Oh I'm buying kasrkin but I'm running them as scions lol I like the changes! They are in a good spot. Edited November 14, 2022 by Sete Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5883976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarms48 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Emperor Ming said: They're still bad, like 75% of the things Mordian pointed out Kasrkins can do too. Will scions still be good support for a Guard force? Yes. Will pure scions be good? No. A pure scion force should have gotten at least one trait selection. 13 hours ago, Sawtooth said: So...Taurox or Chimera? There's actually a decent choice between the 2 now. Taurox is a budget transport, minimum 20 points cheaper than a Chimera, comes with the armoured track upgrade for free, and is faster. Chimera is more durable, has better firepower, carries more troops, and has better synergy with officers. Edited November 15, 2022 by jarms48 Sawtooth, duz_ and Emperor Ming 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5884065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 For the mech players, how do you typically run your army once a squad dismounts? Keep the transport with the squad as if they’re all one unit or send the transport off to gun truck on its own? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5884068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Usually my transports get blown up and the infantry spill out. duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5884167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Probably will still happen but transports and tanks are much more survivable now, especially with Enginseers on the field. Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5884188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I've read that Kasrkin can take a single trait, does anyone know if there's a limit to how many times you can take each trait? Or can I have multiple Kasrkin squads with Mechanized? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5884228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 58 minutes ago, Sawtooth said: I've read that Kasrkin can take a single trait, does anyone know if there's a limit to how many times you can take each trait? Or can I have multiple Kasrkin squads with Mechanized? Kasrkin I believe get 3 traits and the third trait will apply to all Kasrkin squads. the traits you take apply to all of your models. Sawtooth 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5884238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 Unless you’re expecting to face a lot of T7, is there any reason to take the taurox now that the multilaser got buffed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5884258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechCaptain Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Autocannons are still nice. Besides that extra space might be nice for a Commissar or some support unit like a Psyker Primaris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5884279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, TechCaptain said: Autocannons are still nice. Besides that extra space might be nice for a Commissar or some support unit like a Psyker Primaris. Autocannons are nice, but like I said unless there’s a lot of T7 on the board the multilaser/heavy bolter will prevail against T6 and below. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376535-mech-is-back-on-the-menu/#findComment-5884281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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