The Liber Badab (Badab War in HH2.0) (Updated 16-07-24)

[TheTrans]

Back again after a long hiatus.
 

Many aplogies for the ages between updates, but I'm sure you all undertand the ebbing and flowing of hobby mojo!

Well consider the Mojo reignited!
 

V1.6 Liber Astartes, Secessionists and Loyalists have all been moved over to the new scribus format, meaning fixing stuff and changing points costs etc is very easy (as well as having already submitted feedback, corrections and unit descriptions added, thank you to all those that have send those in!).

The final slog will be getting the 'other forces' documents running correctly! But I'll start working on that!
 

Finally after some conversations with a few Enthusiasts, some weapons are a bit funky, namely blasts etc with the drop of HH2.0, some of these will be getting a slight massage to bring into an effective state. So the next big thing we'll be working on is a single, concise Badab Weapons Reference Sheet, this will allow us to easily massage some offending weaponry into something more fair for all, while being in one, easy to reference place. So that will more than likely drop in the next release.
 

You want it and here it is!
 

Latest Versions of the Liber Badab Documents:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LCjZuFPUUreECb0v5f1WgRGzbF1LaWQ7?usp=sharing

 

Proofing/Balance Feedback: https://forms.gle/fHLqbGqBwAVMbsST6

 

Unit Descriptions (Desperate need more of these!):

https://forms.gle/nbtBwRyPw6CeigPC9

 

Shout us a beer:

https://ko-fi.com/twobadabenthusiasts

 

As always, thanks for all the support and enthusiasm!

[Shovellovin]

Rad! I was wondering if any progress had been made.  

[Mr Farson]

I just wanted to say this is honestly my favourite 40k related thing currently and for a long time

 

Love your choice of using the 3.5 guard codex platoon system.

 

Love you're re work of the standard space marine army list

 

Have you considered porting all the fw oddity units of the era? Centaurs, land raider helios etc etc

 

[Petitioner's City]

Excellent work so far!!!

 

However I am surprised you have kept the widespread access to artificer armour @TheTrans - it's such an imbalancer in the rules at present, and more so, shouldn't be widely available in this era (it used to just be a very limited pool of ICs who could take it). 

 

Other ideas

 

I also wondered why many FW vehicles of this era are missing from the Guard list - but I understand it's an early draft. 

 

The new legion overseer seems a good addition for the Tyrants Legion list, or for each Seccesionist chapter to provide some infantry representing a small detachment of mortals alongside the Astartes. 

 

I also wondered - I know they weren't there originally, but I think that's partly when they were published - if the Inquisition and the Soritas can be added in too, especially given the close relationship of certain chapters to either.

 

Otherwise wonderful wonderful work

 

Edited October 8 by Petitioner's City

[Petitioner's City]

I guess the final thing is - is there a possibility of a new recruit/battlescribe version?

[TheTrans]

On 10/9/2024 at 3:37 AM, Petitioner's City said:

Excellent work so far!!!

 

However I am surprised you have kept the widespread access to artificer armour @TheTrans - it's such an imbalancer in the rules at present, and more so, shouldn't be widely available in this era (it used to just be a very limited pool of ICs who could take it). 

 

Other ideas

 

I also wondered why many FW vehicles of this era are missing from the Guard list - but I understand it's an early draft. 

 

The new legion overseer seems a good addition for the Tyrants Legion list, or for each Seccesionist chapter to provide some infantry representing a small detachment of mortals alongside the Astartes. 

 

I also wondered - I know they weren't there originally, but I think that's partly when they were published - if the Inquisition and the Soritas can be added in too, especially given the close relationship of certain chapters to either.

 

Otherwise wonderful wonderful work

 

Hey mate, thanks for the feedback! As always always open to it! 

Artificer Armour is now locked behind a Veteran Sergeant upgrade in most cases, which I feel seems more appropriate, and I certainly woulnd't be risking the cost and upgraded statline of a verteran sargeant (generally +1 WS/BS and Wound). Having it stuck behind the veteran sarge upgrade will hopefully bring it more inline with the likes of the old 3rd edition veteran sargeant upgrade.  But do let me know if your mileage varies!

Yeah there is always more scope for more FW vehicles without a doubt, (many of them already appear in the Tyrants Legion list), just a matter of revisitng the Guard forces to get them up to scratch. There is also the sort of 'diminishing returns' of the fact I could spend a week or so adding every vehicle in, only 3 of which may get used by anyone haha. 

Similar in regards to the Inquisition and Soritas as above. Although I'm planning on running an event mid-late next year down in Victoria, Australia and depending on what people require there, it may make me punch through and get some extra 'spoiler' forces ported across. 

Thanks mate !

 

On 9/10/2024 at 9:15 AM, Mr Farson said:

I just wanted to say this is honestly my favourite 40k related thing currently and for a long time

 

Love your choice of using the 3.5 guard codex platoon system.

 

Love you're re work of the standard space marine army list

 

Have you considered porting all the fw oddity units of the era? Centaurs, land raider helios etc etc

 

Thanks mate! Most marine FW oddities are already across in the book. Imperial Guard ones, I haven't started on yet, just due to sheer amount of them. I may just create a 'catch up' sheet that is available for any imperial based faction though, like an almost vehicle index or something.
 

On 7/28/2024 at 1:50 PM, Shovellovin said:

Rad! I was wondering if any progress had been made.  

 

Some has been made certainly! up to 1.7 now! 
 

On 10/9/2024 at 4:24 AM, Petitioner's City said:

I guess the final thing is - is there a possibility of a new recruit/battlescribe version?

There is indeed a New Recruit version up done by one of the awesome Badab War Reenactment Society members over on FB! 

[Formosa]

hello mate loving the books, was wondering if you want any help with any of it to speed up releases, I was thinking of doing Nids and Eldar just to get those out for anyone that wants a 40k game without 10th rules. 

 

cheers

[TheTrans]

On 10/30/2024 at 3:07 AM, Formosa said:

hello mate loving the books, was wondering if you want any help with any of it to speed up releases, I was thinking of doing Nids and Eldar just to get those out for anyone that wants a 40k game without 10th rules. 

 

cheers

Thanks mate,

 

Never say no to help! Although Tyranids are probably a little out of the scope of the Liber Badab at this point, but at the same time I don't think anyone would have an issue smashing some nids with 2.0 Heresy rules! 

[Trahl916]

Thank you for all the hard work! Was curious if for perhaps a command squad retinue or for Vanguard vets, that hand flamers be more available than to 1/5? If this is O.P my bad still learning what is good and bad from the HH 2.0 ruleset! 

Thank you again for all the work!

[Formosa]

On 11/20/2024 at 9:44 PM, TheTrans said:

Thanks mate,

 

Never say no to help! Although Tyranids are probably a little out of the scope of the Liber Badab at this point, but at the same time I don't think anyone would have an issue smashing some nids with 2.0 Heresy rules! 

Do you have a Discord or anything so we can communicate as I would like to keep anything I do in line with what you are doing. 

As for Nids I can leave that for now and focus on chaos as they are quite an easy one to get done it looks like, updating the legions list and using what you have already done for marines would make it fairly quick.

[Ched]

Man this is sick. I've only had a quick read because I'm in work rn but I can't wait to go through everything properly when I'm home.

 

Do you think we could ever convince someone to get these rules into New Recruit? Lol