Guest Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 OK does the Rubicon regrow limbs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I am guessing not or the Iron Hands would be mightly annoyed as all their shiny bionics fall out. Subtleknife 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5894487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Iron Hands are in a grey area. They have basically been Rubiconning themselves with bionics for the better part of ten millennia. Offering them a method for making their flesh stronger would be like offering a bunch of Texans a jar of picante sauce made in New York City. Iron Father Ferrum and Dracos 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5894491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 I’ve seen nothing about that. It just heals your injuries. regrowing limbs goes beyond just healing injuries lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5894493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Helbrecht still has his bionic hand . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5894499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 The Rubicon Primaris is just a procedure to upgrade a Firstborn marine into a Primaris marine. In particular, a marine undergoing the Rubicon would gain the following three "upgrades" that are implanted into a regular Primaris marine during their normal modification into a marine: Sinew Coils- durametallic cables woven into their muscles to increase strength and durability Magnificat- organ that increases growth and enhances other, already implanted organs (specifically the biscopea and ossmodula- muscular and bone strength respectively) Belisarian Furnace- normally dormant organ that produces a massive cocktail of combat stims and flesh regrowth, generally activating when a marine is close to mortally wounded to allow them to function for a short time before becoming incapacitated There is no regrowing of limbs during the procedure, nor does becoming a Primaris give a marine the ability to regrow limbs. Imperial technology can clone limbs (though it seems fairly rare and/or restricted to AdMech/Nobility), or implant donor bodyparts into a patient, but that doesn't have anything to do with the Rubicon process. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5894502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Lord_Ikka said: There is no regrowing of limbs during the procedure, nor does becoming a Primaris give a marine the ability to regrow limbs. Imperial technology can clone limbs (though it seems fairly rare and/or restricted to AdMech/Nobility), or implant donor bodyparts into a patient, but that doesn't have anything to do with the Rubicon process. I thought it might be the case in general but just wanted to be sure. Edited December 24, 2022 by Brother Captain Arkley Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5894561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 The rubicon can fix things, it’s specifically shown as being able to repair destroyed nerve connections in spears of the emperor, but yeah no indication of limb regrowth Subtleknife 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5894611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I don't believe there is any evidence for the regrowth of limbs. There are incidents of it boosting the healing potential of the subject, sometimes saving their life. Regrowing limbs would be a new power which marines don't have so I would say no until evidence suggests otherwise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5895927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) It would make Calgar a very different character eh. To be honest, he's lost so much of his body I'm not sure the point in him becoming Primaris in lore? I mean, he's got no arms and legs, 1 eye, Emperor knows how many organs he lost... it didn't make sense really and also something else.... Did they build him slightly larger bionic limbs too? Extend them? Because only his head and torso would have gotten bigger and really not by much. I think we need to dismiss the Calgar thing as suspension of disbelief whilst we consider other Marines crossing the Rubicon (which is ironic in name since no one fails anyway). Edited December 30, 2022 by Captain Idaho Iron Father Ferrum and phandaal 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5895928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 There are also chapters whose warriors already grow extra large, like the Storm Giants and Black Dragons. Do they both get even more larger when they get Rubiconned? Or do they just kinda look the same once the process is complete? Of course both of those chapters present their own problems. Storm Giants have consistently refused to provide their gene-seed, and Black Dragons only tithe gene-seed from their non-mutated battle brothers. Where did the gene-seed for the Storm Giants' greyshields come from? How did the Black Dragons receive greyshields who subsequently mutated, as described in the Successors anthology? As Captain Idaho says, some stuff just needs to be hand-waved away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, phandaal said: There are also chapters whose warriors already grow extra large, like the Storm Giants and Black Dragons. Do they both get even more larger when they get Rubiconned? Or do they just kinda look the same once the process is complete? Where is it stated that they grow extra large? Because I don't remember that being mentioned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Gamiel said: Where is it stated that they grow extra large? Because I don't remember that being mentioned. Black Dragons - Death of Antagonis Storm Giants - Codex: Space Marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, phandaal said: Black Dragons - Death of Antagonis Storm Giants - Codex: Space Marines In the Swords of Calth there is this titbit. Quote Once he had thought Pasanius huge, a giant among his battle-brothers, and indeed he was. To accommodate his enormous frame, the Techmarines had forged his armour from a hybrid blend of parts taken from Aquila and Tactical Dreadnought armour, but Uriel now saw he wore a modified suit of Mark X Tacticus plate. After crossing the Rubicon Primaris, Uriel was now half a head taller. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 So is Pasanius isn't a Primaris? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: So is Pasanius isn't a Primaris? @Captain IdahoNah he is just a big meathead :D. If Graham ever does another book I fully expect the Swords of Calth to be Primaris. The Swords of Calth as follows Uriel - Captain - Primaris Nero - Champion - Firstborn Cyprian - Muscle - Firstborn (He was the reason I was asking about limbs). Selenus - Apothecary - Firstborn (currently painting him as Primaris) Ancient = Spoiler for end of book Spoiler Learchus - Ancient He now has a Meltagun too... Which really screws my conversion idea on him LOL. Has planned on making him a Gravis with flamestorm, but I have another idea which I am hoping works. Edited December 31, 2022 by Brother Captain Arkley Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, phandaal said: Storm Giants - Codex: Space Marines Which? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brother Captain Arkley said: @Captain IdahoNah he is just a big meathead :D. If Graham ever does another book I fully expect the Swords of Calth to be Primaris. The Swords of Calth as follows Uriel - Captain - Primaris Nero - Champion - Firstborn Cyprian - Muscle - Firstborn (He was the reason I was asking about limbs). Selenus - Apothecary - Firstborn (currently painting him as Primaris) Ancient = Spoiler for end of book Hide contents Learchus - Ancient He now has a Meltagun too... Which really screws my conversion idea on him LOL. Has planned on making him a Gravis with flamestorm, but I have another idea which I am hoping works. Wait he always had a flamer! They can't just change that lol. Interesting that Pasanius wears Primaris armour but isn't Primaris. He was truly big. But then I seem to remember Terminator plate being added to the wearer and built around him rather than the wearer sliding into it, so maybe all Astartes armour works that way? Funny, having a mixed squad just implies to me that they need to do away with the distinction between them in our games eh Edited December 31, 2022 by Captain Idaho phandaal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Gamiel said: Which? Latest has a little blurb on them being even stronger than standard marines whether you equal to larger is open to interpretation. Edited December 31, 2022 by Brother Captain Arkley Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Brother Captain Arkley said: Lastest has a little blurb on them being even stronger than standard marines whether you equal to larger is open to interpretation. Personally I don't equal it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Wait he always had a flamer! They can't just change that lol. Funny, having a mixed squad just implies to me that they need to do away with the distinction between them in our games eh Oh there is a very good reason. I will add it as a spoiler. Spoiler Learchus had brought a full loadout for each warrior, and they swiftly reloaded with enough full magazines to wage a small war. With his bolter rearmed and his pouches filled with fresh shells, Brutus Cyprian reverently handed Pasanius the meltagun that had once belonged to Livius Hadrianus. ‘Livius would want you to have this,’ said Cyprian. ‘You always did like the hot weapons, and I’m a bolter and blade fighter anyway.’ ‘Thank you,’ said Pasanius. ‘I will honour his memory with every foe I kill.’ ‘He’d like that,’ said Cyprian, his voice choked with grief. Uriel shared Cyprian’s aching sadness. The death of Hadrianus had been a grievous blow to the Swords of Calth, and his gene-seed going unharvested was an incalculable loss to the Chapter – a legacy of heroism that could not now be passed to future generations of Ultramarines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Gamiel said: Which? Do you not own the 9th edition codex? Was not trying to be vague, just figured everyone would have read it by now. It is more than just "they are strong," it is "they are suspected of having a mutated biscopea." As in, they grow bigger than the average Space Marine. Edited January 1, 2023 by phandaal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 They are more aesthetically pleasing to the eye. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376966-does-crossing-the-rubicon-primaris-regrow-lost-limbs/#findComment-5896326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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