L30n1d4s Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Now with Desolaters confirmed, giving SW some indirect fire infantry options, I think they will combine quite effectively with Keen Senses to make a better-than-average platform for killing light units holding objectives out of LOS. Specifically, with Keen Sense giving them the ability to ignore the -1 to hit for shooting out of LOS, a squad of 10 SW Desolaters ought to be able to reliably clear a squad of GEQs holding an Obj/doing a secondary out of LOS in your opponent's DZ. The ability to take out a squad of Guardsmen, Fire Warriors, Neophytes, Guardians, lesser Daemons, Kabalite Warriors, Gaunts, Skitarii, Gretchen, etc. every turn, even if they are out of LOS, can be a game changer I think, especially since the Desolators can hold an objective for you while doing so. Kassill, yan, ranulf the revenant and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377340-keen-senses-and-desolators/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Have we seen anything regarding the points? If they are reasonable, that definitely sounds like a fine choice for back field work to poke down/push GEQ's off objs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377340-keen-senses-and-desolators/#findComment-5904337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Keen senses doesnt interact with indirect fire penalty Your BS characteristic is worsened. It is not a modifier like dense cover ranulf the revenant 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377340-keen-senses-and-desolators/#findComment-5904353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L30n1d4s Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 No, actually, Keen Senses ignore any or all hit roll modifiers, BS modifiers, and WS modifiers, so should still work (I just reread it to be sure) ;) Kassill, WrathOfTheLion, TiguriusX and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377340-keen-senses-and-desolators/#findComment-5904411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 51 minutes ago, L30n1d4s said: No, actually, Keen Senses ignore any or all hit roll modifiers, BS modifiers, and WS modifiers, so should still work (I just reread it to be sure) ;) i mixed up ideas. Was thinking of culexus assassin replacing your BS/WS not being called a "modifier" You do indeed avoid indirect penalty. Interesting Kassill 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377340-keen-senses-and-desolators/#findComment-5904420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I'm really looking at using 2x5 man units. Combo thane of retinue- MasterCraft on the vengeance launcher for giggles Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377340-keen-senses-and-desolators/#findComment-5904834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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