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20 minutes ago, Noserenda said:


Not afaik, I meant the rules rather than any minis :) Making the list reliant on a £100+ transport is brutal

 

Oh right! Yeah I get what you mean now. Though the Solar list largely also needs ridiculously expensive vehicles to work, so there is a trend here.

 

Outside of the Sisters' new units, I'm not really expecting anything new that is a Space Marine any time soon tbh.

Here's a general question about new kits and MKII...

 

When did we last - or ever - have reliably sourced rumours that the kit is coming back in plastic?

 

Because I can't remember any and I'm not sure that GW will pump out a fourth twenty-man tactical squad box just for a different armour mark??

MK II and MK V armour sets are a must have, if only to address the balance away from GW's sudden favouritism towards everything being MK VI. I think that's why I loved the old Forgeworld Black Books because there was such a rich variety of armour marks in the artwork, which was really inspiring for modelling/converting.

 

In retrospect I am actually not a huge fan of the new MKVI design. In my opinion the HH boxset Praetors had a 40k influence that I hope doesn't become a trait of forthcoming HH plastic models.

 

Also, we really need a Combi-Volkite kit.

On 2/23/2023 at 10:07 PM, Astartes Consul said:

Here's a general question about new kits and MKII...

 

When did we last - or ever - have reliably sourced rumours that the kit is coming back in plastic?

 

Because I can't remember any and I'm not sure that GW will pump out a fourth twenty-man tactical squad box just for a different armour mark??


I think the rumour was that it had been sculpted, thats not the same as being released, sometimes stuff sits behind the scenes for yeeeeears, like i wouldnt be surprised if the next armour mk release is for AoD 3rd edition in a couple of years. They have to be aware of sales cannibalisation. 
 

23 hours ago, Etruscan said:

MK II and MK V armour sets are a must have, if only to address the balance away from GW's sudden favouritism towards everything being MK VI. I think that's why I loved the old Forgeworld Black Books because there was such a rich variety of armour marks in the artwork, which was really inspiring for modelling/converting.

 

In retrospect I am actually not a huge fan of the new MKVI design. In my opinion the HH boxset Praetors had a 40k influence that I hope doesn't become a trait of forthcoming HH plastic models.

 

Also, we really need a Combi-Volkite kit.


eh these things come and go as needed, the difference between now and the initial books was that FW was promoting all the resin kits at once rather than a particular generation. The others are still around and have plenty of support, but the poster boys are mk6 for now, which also ties into the Siege of terra which FW isnt really supporting but ties to where black library is at.

Id be interested to see what you think is 40k influence on the Praetors? Really a gleeful disregard for consistent scale is more of a 30k thing :P But they are dripping with 30k styled trim and stuff?

43 minutes ago, Noserenda said:

eh these things come and go as needed, the difference between now and the initial books was that FW was promoting all the resin kits at once rather than a particular generation. The others are still around and have plenty of support, but the poster boys are mk6 for now, which also ties into the Siege of terra which FW isnt really supporting but ties to where black library is at.

Id be interested to see what you think is 40k influence on the Praetors? Really a gleeful disregard for consistent scale is more of a 30k thing :P But they are dripping with 30k styled trim and stuff?

 

Those are good points.

 

I realise it is totally subjective but I found the HH boxset Praetors were perhaps a little over embellished for my own personal taste and a little indicative of some of the OTT design that has crept into 40k (witness the new Primaris Desolation squad with the over-sized Nerf guns). Also they are in MKVI power armour but are noticeably larger than the Tactical Marines, giving a suggestion of almost being in some sort of Terminator armour. A minor gripe, I admit.

 

In retrospect, maybe it's actually as simple as that as much as they are advertised as being a suitable Praetor for any legion, I found them to be actually quite inappropriate for several legions on account of just how busy/decorated the armour is. The legions I model are Salamanders, Raven Guard, Iron Hands and Space Wolves and despite being a prodigious and slightly obsessive converter I am yet to find the means to find a way to make either of the boxset Praetors into any of the aforementioned legions. In essence, I can only say that I feel they are not quite the blank canvas that GW states they are, especially when you compare them to the FW resin praetors.

 

Just to play Devil's advocate, I have seen a couple of  truly wonderful conversions of the boxset praetors but they were for the Imperial Fists.

 

Really all I want are plastic assault, recon, and breacher sprues. Everything else can come and go as plastic and resin or whatever they feel like. But if the core troop and elite choices sorted, and the core vehicles, that’s really all we need for years of gaming.

Astartes wise, anyway. If I’m being honest that’s really all I care about.

I just want plastic Despoilers/Assault Squad/Destroyers.  All can be made out of the same kit.  Just give me left and right handed bolt pistols and chainswords in the same kit or just an extra bolt pistol arm at the minimum.  Most of the time the destroyer squad will be armed with the HtH weapon anyway...

I imagine the next plastic infantry kit will be released via a battlebox along with a supplement.

 

 

I expect 10th, 30k expansion and seraphon to drop this summer, that way every "major system" has a big release.

 

 

If the mk2 / mk5 rumors are true I expect they will be a mixed veteran Tactical Squad rather than two stand alone tac Squad boxes.

 

 

1 hour ago, Mr Farson said:

I imagine the next plastic infantry kit will be released via a battlebox along with a supplement.

 

 

I expect 10th, 30k expansion and seraphon to drop this summer, that way every "major system" has a big release.

 

 

If the mk2 / mk5 rumors are true I expect they will be a mixed veteran Tactical Squad rather than two stand alone tac Squad boxes.

 

 

I think you are spot on apart from that last bit. I think it will be mono armour mark kits but they may be marketed as vets etc

8 hours ago, Harrowmaster said:

I'm not sure if it's been said but a plastic storm eagle and fire raptor are sorely needed.  

i expect these in a few years, i think we will get a xiphon first, dread drop pod, then these. 

 

I genuinely believe GW is trying to work towards a plastic Thawk and these will be valuable steps towards it. 

Edited by sarabando
19 hours ago, Harrowmaster said:

I'm not sure if it's been said but a plastic storm eagle and fire raptor are sorely needed.  

 

Yeah, given the nature of the current kits you're right. Although the changes to fliers in 2.0 have sort of killed demand, I would imagine.

Here's hoping that 'wave 2' will focus on fast attack/elite slots, things like plastic javelins, outriders, jump assaults, aircraft, etc. 

Regardless of what it is, I want another infantry choice released before another tank.

  • 2 weeks later...

Hey, I figured this would be a fun topic to generate some conversation! 

 

What's on your Horus Heresy model wishlist?

 

Mine is:

Plastic Javelins,

MkIIAssault/Despoiler Squads in plastic,

MkIII Breacher Squads in plastic,

MkV Destroyer squads in plastic. 

Raptor/StormEagle in plastic. 

Plastic Kharybdis. 

 

What's yours?

Edited by TheWarmaster
8 hours ago, bushman101 said:

Barbarus Danitoch

Don't understand why so much people wants it, because Barabas Dantioch is a non-combat character. Charismatic yeah but on a battlefield ? Give me Cyrene Valention :D

 

For my wishlist:

- Plastic Land Speeder Javelins

- Plastic Land Speeder Proteus

- Plastic Sabres

- Plastic Destroyers

- Plastic Breachers

- Plastic Rapiers

 

Pretty much any infantry would be nice - breachers, destroyers, assault marines, they're all good. 

If they use it as an excuse to bring in different armour types then all the better, mkv would be nice but I'll even take a rescaled mkiv at this point!

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