WH40k game Last Chance to Buy Forge World Armour

[lansalt]

I was tempted to buy a Phobos MKIIB Land Raider, but it's already no longer avaliable. A shame, because it looks much better than the Proteus Carrier.

[amrogers3]

Typical GW created FOMO and predatory business practices looks like here. Not the first time this has happened, won't be the last. 

 

So I assume these will be turned to plastic?

 

 

Edited March 10, 2023 by amrogers3

[Noserenda]

Theres no way most of these kits are going plastic unfortunately, well, obviously some of them already have plastic versions.

I could give FW credit if they let us order these right up until the end of the period but half of them are already sold out, it just reeks of more fomo marketing. 

[Lord Marshal]

26 minutes ago, Noserenda said:

Theres no way most of these kits are going plastic unfortunately, well, obviously some of them already have plastic versions.

I could give FW credit if they let us order these right up until the end of the period but half of them are already sold out, it just reeks of more fomo marketing. 

 

I don't think it's impossible the Mars-pattern LRs go plastic. They're iconic to Krieg and to a lesser extent the Solar Auxilia. It's also well known Guard collectors - one of the most popular armies - really, really like collecting tanks and the existing LR plastic is showing it's age by comparison. If they can justify selling plastic Deimos and Mars-pattern Rhinos, Predators, etc I don't think it's out of the question a single Mars-pattern Leman Russ plastic kit could happen, either as a '30k' release (unlikely) or if an expanded plastic Krieg wave happens (more likely).

 

That said, I doubt any of this would happen soon. Something I just noticed is that the Battle Cannon variant isn't LCTB, which suggests it is just clearing out warehouse space.

 

The rest of them I do reckon are gone forever though. The Rogal Dorn suggests GW are more interested in 'new' Guard tank designs than transitioning things like the Malcador and Macharius to plastic.

 

Edited March 10, 2023 by Lord Marshal

[m_r_parker]

Again I feel like doing a physical face-palm. I can understand getting rid of some of the catalogue, it has to happen sometime. But why decide to announce a LCTB when items are already sold out??? You give us a deadline of over 4 weeks, but you're not prepared to have it as a made-to-order run to allow people to buy your product before it disappears. Make it made-to-order, sell more products, make more money, make customers happy. Have I missed something here?

 

[Urauloth]

Mk IIb Land Raider is the only thing here that has a real shot at going plastic I think, we've already seen almost every other heresy-era tank, and that one's pretty iconic to the period even if it wasn't specifically created for the HH range. I certainly hope we see it, anyway.

[skylerboodie]

5 hours ago, Lord Marshal said:

I knew it. I fething knew it. I bought two Mars-pattern Vanquishers the other day and said as soon as I do this they'll be pulled and turned plastic.

 

You can all thank me later. 

Please buy a Stormbird.

[lansalt]

5 hours ago, Urauloth said:

Mk IIb Land Raider is the only thing here that has a real shot at going plastic I think, we've already seen almost every other heresy-era tank, and that one's pretty iconic to the period even if it wasn't specifically created for the HH range. I certainly hope we see it, anyway.

I wish so too, but the creation of the Proteus Carrier with a front ramp pretty much says to me that the MkIIb is gone forever.

[Evil Eye]

Oh bugger, that is a shame. I had been planning on getting the MkIIB Land Raider at some point. I guess now I'll just have to seek out an, uh, second generation producer for the upgrade parts.

[Kastor Krieg]

LCTB until 09.04, already all gone. Absolutely hilarious.

 

[Tokugawa]

Not fans of big resin bulks. We may see something positive - they can't tourture future customers for dealing and assembling them anymore.

[kamedake88]

17 hours ago, Lord Marshal said:

I knew it. I fething knew it. I bought two Mars-pattern Vanquishers the other day and said as soon as I do this they'll be pulled and turned plastic.

 

You can all thank me later. 

 

I'll check back in a decade when they aren't.

[Bouargh]

10 hours ago, lansalt said:

I wish so too, but the creation of the Proteus Carrier with a front ramp pretty much says to me that the MkIIb is gone forever.

Indeed. And as neither the Landraider IIb nor the Achilles are listed in the HH units of Liber Astartes, from what I saw of index pics, I would say that a rekitting is quite highly unlikely. 

[OttoVonAwesome]

Glad I have stl's for all this. Kinda sad what's happened to Forgeworld. All the cool alternate kits and unique vehicles are going away. End of era. 

[lansalt]

1 hour ago, Bouargh said:

Indeed. And as neither the Landraider IIb nor the Achilles are listed in the HH units of Liber Astartes, from what I saw of index pics, I would say that a rekitting is quite highly unlikely. 

They're in the Legacies PDF, so at least they're playable.

Anyway, this is a case of GW not giving a damn about their own lore out of a business decision. The Phobos shouldn't be a different vehicle than the Proteus Carrier in the HH2 rules, and the regular Proteus shouldn't be locked into the Explorator version. The regular Proteus was the standard LR in the GC/HH era.

[Bouargh]

20 minutes ago, lansalt said:

They're in the Legacies PDF, so at least they're playable.

 

Indeed, at least for a while.

 

44 minutes ago, OttoVonAwesome said:

End of era. 

 

Or end of a business model. If FW is now only going to support Specialist games and Customization kits, they will be reduced to a small protion of the catalog they used to have. Back to origins somehow...

 

Nest step would be that FW would sell only STLs for 3D printing of "secondary" items and goodies.

[AenarIT]

Just now, Bouargh said:

Or end of a business model. If FW is now only going to support Specialist games and Customization kits, they will be reduced to a small protion of the catalog they used to have. Back to origins somehow...

It's not something new, though.

When was the last time FW released a "proper" model (40K, AoS, ...), apart from character models for HH or specialist games?
Red Scorpions stuff? Some Tau planes? The Astraeus Super-Heavy?

[Joe]

2017-18ish. Which is when they ceased involvement with Warhammer 40,000 and Age of Sigmar in terms of producing rules and models.

 

As I mentioned earlier; reducing the scope of the catalogue so that they can focus on other ranges isn't a bad business decision. Particularly as it's a fair assumption that Geedub will re-up the license agreements surrounding LOTR off of the back of Warner Bros announcement of new movies / shows coming for that setting. People continually underestimate how much revenue that license has brought to the company, and it shouldn't be a huge surprise that it was FWs second largest money maker behind Necromunda for some years.

[skylerboodie]

Plus with EPIC's rumoured return after 10th edition (as per Valrak), FW may well support that too in a similar way to AT and AI.

[OttoVonAwesome]

21 minutes ago, Bouargh said:

 

Indeed, at least for a while.

 

 

Or end of a business model. If FW is now only going to support Specialist games and Customization kits, they will be reduced to a small protion of the catalog they used to have. Back to origins somehow...

 

Nest step would be that FW would sell only STLs for 3D printing of "secondary" items and goodies.

And step into a popular and vastly expanding market by competing instead of trying to control it with litigation while offering a slow ancient and unreliable release model that can't compete with a handful of designers working from home on thier spare time. never.

[Emperor Ming]

The entire guard range of fw stuff, could shuffle of to the void

 

Would new players even notice

[Sothalor]

Ehm... how much are new players even aware of Forgeworld stuff in general?

[Redcomet]

1 hour ago, Sothalor said:

Ehm... how much are new players even aware of Forgeworld stuff in general?

Besides maybe HH upgrade kits? Not much.

[Urauloth]

IF they wanted, it would be pretty easy to make a dual Thunderer/Destroyer kit for a future guard release wave. I doubt we'll see it, but it would be cool.

 

A Mars-pattern Russ kit would make sense for the Heresy; no 40k-era aquilla devices on the hulls, a Solar Auxillia tank commander for the top hatch, etc. Also seems like a long shot, but it would be nice. With the astonishing amount of plastic HH vehicles we're seeing for Astartes, it must be a possibility they'll support the other factions at some point. (Plastic Mechanicus tanks please)

 

I'm sad to see things like the recovery vehicles disappear, because I can't see those making the jump to plastic. I guess you never know, though... a few years ago I wouldn't have expected to see a kit for a cargo-8, so maybe the Atlas or the Centaur will show up outside mainstream 40k eventually.

[Toxichobbit]

22 hours ago, m_r_parker said:

Again I feel like doing a physical face-palm. I can understand getting rid of some of the catalogue, it has to happen sometime. But why decide to announce a LCTB when items are already sold out??? You give us a deadline of over 4 weeks, but you're not prepared to have it as a made-to-order run to allow people to buy your product before it disappears. Make it made-to-order, sell more products, make more money, make customers happy. Have I missed something here?

 

 

The bit that you're missing is that internally, GW/FW decisions are heavily influenced by idiots who have fallen upwards. If you watch any of The Painting Phase you'll get a few insights into this. If you have lifelong friends who got jobs in head office (about 5 of my gaming buddies from the 1990s/2000s work there, some in high management positions), the difference between the company's success & it's internal practices is even more shocking.

 

18 hours ago, skylerboodie said:

Please buy a Stormbird.

 

And if you're getting a Stormbird, may as well pick up a Warlord :D