Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 This will be a little side project of mine. Primarch: Rogal Dorn Founding: Ultima Colors: Silver armor with purple trim (maybe helmets as well?) Homeworld: Festung, the chapter also operates and garrisons several smaller outposts within the system. The chapter rarely has it's full strength or any where near it's full strength in any single location. Most of it's outposts are garrisoned by either a full company or a demi-company of marines with support units. The chapter's fortress monestary Grosse Halle is located on the planet Festung, and is the home to the chapter's first and tenth companies. The Amethyst Templars follow closely in the foot steps of their Primarch, fortifying where ever they go, advancing slowly, and deliberately, they prefer the use of gravis armor over the other variants of mkX armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 19, 2023 Author Share Posted March 19, 2023 Prospective paint scheme, with a gold right hand in honor of their father. can't believe the old school paint colors are the preset options on here. Bjorn Firewalker 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5921757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) What's their symbol? How do they show company and squad belonging, and battlefield role? Or is any of those unmarked? How do they show sergeant, litaunent or veteran status? Any idea about naming tradition? Any upgrade kit/s or other bits that you think fits them? Edited March 20, 2023 by Gamiel Bjorn Firewalker 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5921850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Gamiel said: What's their symbol? How do they show company and squad belonging, and battlefield role? Or is any of those unmarked? How do they show sergeant, litaunent or veteran status? Any idea about naming tradition? Any upgrade kit/s or other bits that you think fits them? Probably just going to make things easy on myself and go with BT bits/upgrades. im going for Germanic or Germanic sounding names for things. Gamiel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5922098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 The Second Company occupies Wertburgen Schloss. Wertburgen Schloss sits upon the moon of Altdorf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5922515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Cambrius Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 1:23 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: This will be a little side project of mine. Primarch: Rogal Dorn Founding: Ultima Colors: Silver armor with purple trim (maybe helmets as well?) Homeworld: Festung, the chapter also operates and garrisons several smaller outposts within the system. Interesting name for these Templars! Does the amethyst bear any significance to their symbology etc or their origin? Perhaps the heraldry of their Founder, or linked to their homeworld's culture? On 3/19/2023 at 4:39 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Prospective paint scheme, with a gold right hand in honor of their father. can't believe the old school paint colors are the preset options on here. Well to be fair the Painter's over a Decade old and was created when those paints existed waaaay back in 5th/6th ed. It's a relic of its age but still has its purpose. The colour scheme itself looks good, you've got a nice nod to their forefathers with the golden fist, do veterans mirror the Crimson Fists and paint the opposite one gold too? On 3/20/2023 at 1:40 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Probably just going to make things easy on myself and go with BT bits/upgrades. im going for Germanic or Germanic sounding names for things. BT bits can certainly work well and can provide some fun flavour. But on that subject, what are the Amethyst Templars all about? Where to they prosecute their Crusades and what are their strengths and weaknesses? Who have they succeeded against, or suffered shame from in their past? Looking forwards to more here. Cambrius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5925848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 7:16 PM, Brother Cambrius said: Interesting name for these Templars! Does the amethyst bear any significance to their symbology etc or their origin? Perhaps the heraldry of their Founder, or linked to their homeworld's culture? Well to be fair the Painter's over a Decade old and was created when those paints existed waaaay back in 5th/6th ed. It's a relic of its age but still has its purpose. The colour scheme itself looks good, you've got a nice nod to their forefathers with the golden fist, do veterans mirror the Crimson Fists and paint the opposite one gold too? BT bits can certainly work well and can provide some fun flavour. But on that subject, what are the Amethyst Templars all about? Where to they prosecute their Crusades and what are their strengths and weaknesses? Who have they succeeded against, or suffered shame from in their past? Looking forwards to more here. Cambrius I’m thinking their homeworld is rich in amethyst, whose mines provide the gems to the rest of the sector and beyond. the chapter primarily utilizes gravis armor and it’s entire first company utilizes either TDA, with shields or acts as BGV forming a sturdy wall their brothers can advance behind, or so they can make cover where none may be available. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5927022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) Why claim a planet rich in amethysts, instead of a material like the adamantium used for Terminator armor and armor-piercing ammunition? Do amethyst worms infest the Chapter planet, forcing the human populace to fight for survival every day, creating youths worthy of induction into a Space Marine Chapter? Does the Chapter have a deal with a Rogue Trader dynasty in which the Rogue Traders serve as middle-men, selling the Chapter planet's amethysts in exchange for raw materials for the Chapter forges, munitions, and other war materiel the Marines need? The Ancient Greeks thought wearing an amethyst would make them immune to drunkenness. Does the name "Amethyst Templars" also refer to the Marines' alertness? Do they test themselves by drinking pure alcohol and other intoxicating substances, to give their Preomnor and Oolitic Kidney a workout? Edited March 31, 2023 by Bjorn Firewalker Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5927741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 While amethyst is only a semi-precious stone, the mid levels of imperial society will still be plenty happy adorning themselves with amethyst. i also don’t like super cliches how many people have created chapters from worlds rich in raw materials necessary to the war effort, or some major forgeworld for their sector, etc? Gamiel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5927761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Cambrius Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 That's understandable. In terms of reasons as to why, you have a whole variety of options. Be it tactical location to the area that the Chapter is tasked to protect (ie middle of the area, or has the most systems to protect in a specific radius of distance), a sanctified reason (e.g. a sacred world of renown in History due to major moments in the Imperium's 10000 year history), or could simply have been fate, decided by the Emperor's Tarot etc, thus His will decreed the new Chapter set their base of operations upon a world of Amethyst and thus, the Chapter took it upon themselves to embody the world they protect by becoming the Amethyst Templars? Cambrius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5927958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 Idk in universe how chapters are named or founded but here’s what I am going with. The chapter’s name and homeworld were chosen based on an ancient Terran belief that amethyst would keep priests humble, and could protect people from witchcraft. Thus the prevalence of the stone on the chapter’s homeworld and their very name is a reminder that their power is not unlimited or infinite, and they are but servants to the Emperor and his imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5928104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 What's their relationship with the people of their homeworld? Are they open rulers or protectors? Or are their existance hidden from the natives? What kind of people do they recruite from and how do they do it? How do you image their homeworld looking like? On 3/20/2023 at 9:40 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Probably just going to make things easy on myself and go with BT bits/upgrades. im going for Germanic or Germanic sounding names for things. Suggest also taking a look at the DA's upgrade kits My own Black Pegasi had rank titles inspiered by the german versions of the SM ranks (I used the Lexicanum's german version to find most of them), maybe something to use? Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5928111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 9:23 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: The Amethyst Templars follow closely in the foot steps of their Primarch, fortifying where ever they go, advancing slowly, and deliberately, they prefer the use of gravis armor over the other variants of mkX armor. Do this mean that they lack or only have a few Fast Attack unites? Or do they have them but just prefere to go slowly and dig in? If the former, how do this effect the company structure? Do they build their own fortification or reuse existing ones? If the former do I suggest painting up some Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Servohaulers in Amethyst Templars colours as senario. Things like the Aegis Defence Line and STC Hab-Bunker and Stockades might also be of interest if they are more using STC fortifications more than something they have built from stone and earth. On 3/19/2023 at 9:23 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: The chapter rarely has it's full strength or any where near it's full strength in any single location. Most of it's outposts are garrisoned by either a full company or a demi-company of marines with support units. Are those outposted only in their homesystem? If not, where else are they located? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5928377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted April 3, 2023 Author Share Posted April 3, 2023 8 hours ago, Gamiel said: Do this mean that they lack or only have a few Fast Attack unites? Or do they have them but just prefere to go slowly and dig in? If the former, how do this effect the company structure? Do they build their own fortification or reuse existing ones? If the former do I suggest painting up some Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Servohaulers in Amethyst Templars colours as senario. Things like the Aegis Defence Line and STC Hab-Bunker and Stockades might also be of interest if they are more using STC fortifications more than something they have built from stone and earth. Are those outposted only in their homesystem? If not, where else are they located? The chapter has all the typical equipment, and being marines still can go on an offensive. speeders, bikes, jump infantry, etc. often get used defensively just as often as offensively, being used to harass enemy elements to prevent them from advancing on the rest of the army, either while they manage to slowly advance and make sure they’re not walking into a trap or ambush, or while they begin constructing field fortifications, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377967-amethyst-templars/#findComment-5928536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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