b1soul Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I always pictured the Lion more like this than like this Not a huge fan of the lush golden beard...or any beard. GW seems to have made this decision in fairly recent artwork...the Primarch novella cover art IIRC. Was it ever in the older lore? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 He had one on some HH covers too no? I dont know, but I think the model looks fantastic. Easily one of the best they have ever done. Mike8404, Arkangilos, Helias_Tancred and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spessmarine Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 first one looks too close to the sang/fulgrim end of things Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, spessmarine said: first one looks too close to the sang/fulgrim end of things Sanguinius in my head or even a touch more sinister... How I tend to picture Fulgrim Guess you could see the resemblance with the Lion (artist might be going for a family resemblance), but still quite different in my eyes... Arkangilos and Helias_Tancred 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 The guy has just come off a 10K nap. Cut him slack grailkeeper and crimsondave 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwango Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Well, I'm definitely using 'by the Lions beard' from now on! Helias_Tancred, Gamiel, crimsondave and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) On 3/24/2023 at 10:33 AM, Dwango said: Well, I'm definitely using 'by the Lions beard' from now on! Should not that be 'by the Lion's full mane' ? :p Edited March 25, 2023 by Gamiel Arkangilos, Karhedron, Majkhel and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 The first "official" depiction we have I think is the cover of Angels of Caliban which came out in 2016 and shows a beard (or more like designer stubble). The FW version is also bearded so the fantastic facial follicles are definitely not new. 3 minutes ago, Gamiel said: Should not that be 'by the Lion's full mane' ? From there you are only one step away from "Thundercats, Ho!" Helias_Tancred, Majkhel and Iron Lord 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Karhedron said: From there you are only one step away from "Thundercats, Ho!" New successor chapter for anybody to go on from! Karhedron and Iron Lord 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Felix Antipodes said: The guy has just come off a 10K nap. Cut him slack For 10 K years of growth, its pretty short. You can see why he wouldnt want to cut it if he's going to have itchy stubble for centuries. Cactus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Karhedron said: From there you are only one step away from "Thundercats, Ho!" I'd have said one step away from "For Narnia! For Aslan!" Karhedron, Gamiel and Raziel-TX 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Iron Lord said: I'd have said one step away from "For Narnia! For Aslan!" Symbol: Red lion on green. Should the armour be green also? Or red? or some other colour? English early 20th-centry names. Noble and disturbingly friendly for a Unforgiven chapter. Accepting of abhumans. Edited March 24, 2023 by Gamiel Othniel's Blade 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix01 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Gamiel said: Should not that be 'by the Lion's full mane' ? :p Well, it is receding. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 For those wanting a clean faced Lion… Arkangilos and Helias_Tancred 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Karhedron said: The first "official" depiction we have I think is the cover of Angels of Caliban which came out in 2016 Is there not one from the older Horus Heresy art books? I only ever was interested in the one that had Sanguinius on the cover with the demon head, but I think it’s the same art they used for the HH card game way back. That was back in the first decade of the 2000’s so I don’t remember too well. Just looked, but the card game that uses the images was sabertooth games between 2003 and 2008. So around that time? I know there are helmeted pictures, anyone know of any unhelmeted ones for the Lion from back then? Edited March 25, 2023 by Arkangilos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5924833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Considering they can almost change shape at will, I think they can grow their beards at will also. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5925053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) The Watchers in the dark can do many things, but remove a beard? No! But keep it trimmed, YES! They couldn't do crap for his receding hairline though. Prodigious psychic abilities still cannot summon rogaine. Edited March 25, 2023 by Eilio Tiberius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5925061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/24/2023 at 7:46 PM, Karhedron said: The first "official" depiction we have I think is the cover of Angels of Caliban which came out in 2016 and shows a beard (or more like designer stubble). Think you're right...that's where I first saw a stubbly/bearded Lion and GW just doubled down from there Wonder what was the origin of mutton chops Dorn...must be fan art Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5925249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azoriel Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I'd always imagined the Lion being beardless with long flowing hair, much like Sanguinius and Fulgrim (not an unusual look for primarchs really), which contrasted sharply with the bearded Leman Russ. I found it odd that GW decided that the Lion should be the bearded one and Russ without as the Space Wolves really seem to love beards. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5925766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 10 hours ago, Azoriel said: I'd always imagined the Lion being beardless with long flowing hair, much like Sanguinius and Fulgrim (not an unusual look for primarchs really), which contrasted sharply with the bearded Leman Russ. I found it odd that GW decided that the Lion should be the bearded one and Russ without as the Space Wolves really seem to love beards. The SW have lots of beardless heads and Russ was depicted as shaved since at least his first model back in 1989. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5925895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouargh Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 2:02 AM, Felix Antipodes said: For those wanting a clean faced Lion… Boris Johnson, get out of this power armour now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5925914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjasghar Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 8:01 PM, Azoriel said: I'd always imagined the Lion being beardless with long flowing hair, much like Sanguinius and Fulgrim (not an unusual look for primarchs really), which contrasted sharply with the bearded Leman Russ. I found it odd that GW decided that the Lion should be the bearded one and Russ without as the Space Wolves really seem to love beards. The initial art depends on what you define as initial Let’s say it’s the ccg art which came after the HH concept. That had the first art for the Emperor as golden knight/Conan/Hittite. As part of that the Emp was depicted as clean shaven. And to emphasise the Primarchs they were drawn to look at least a bit like him. Also it was the time period when clean shaven was standard in art and beards weren’t as acceptable in western culture. You may think I’m being over the top but it’s true - public figures with beards were regarded as eccentrics in the 80s. That’s why some people still object to Astartes with facial hair even now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5927010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Not a fan of the second image of the Lion. It looks too much like a Brothers Hildebrandt work, which doesn't feel right for 40k whereas I enjoy their stuff for Tolkien's Middle Earth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378038-was-the-lions-beard-mentioned-in-lore/#findComment-5927774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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