Master Ciaphas Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Hail! Back in the day GW had an ink/wash named "Magenta Red" - a kinda glossy red. I used this for my Tyranids - which I am close to finishing - but I am even closer to running out of Magenta Red! and I still need to paint "William, the Hierophant Bio-Titan"! Does anyone know of a proper substitute for Magenta Red? Cheers and thanks in advance! Faithfully, Master Ciaphas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) If I could see an example since google is failing me I could prolly come up with a substitute. Liquitex or Dawler Rowney's acrylic inks may have one. Edited March 24, 2023 by OttoVonAwesome Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5924308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I was going to say I still have a half pot of that, but on further thought I think it's actually the Baal Red Wash... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5924359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Hmm ... that's one I don't actually remember! I don't suppose you have an image of the pot, so we can see what era it came from, etc? I can't find anything via Google (I don't know if it was from the old 1990's flip-top line, the original wash line [as opposed to inks], etc) It's on DakkaDakka's compatability chart, but doesn't have any matches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5924366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I am also eeking out the last traces of my own Magenta Ink. I have not tested it yet but this looks like a proper replacement. If you run out before I do, give it a try and let me know how close it is. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Liquitex-4260114-liquid-professional-acrylic/dp/B00263VTWM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5924397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) There’s also Daler-Rowney and Sennelier to check for magenta inks (I’m sure there’s more, but those are the three I am immediately familiar with) - then you can thin them down with your choice of Wash, flow improver, or other mediums to get the ink to move the way you want it to as well - can even try just adding it to straight Contrast Medium, or see if using GW’s Doomfire Magenta might work (although that looks brighter than the magenta inks from Liquitex, D-R, or Sennelier). Edited March 24, 2023 by Bryan Blaire Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5924517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Rummaging around on Google, I could only find two images of it - one on Collector-Info, and one from Darren Latham on Twitter. Based on the colour swatch on Dakka Dakka's compatibility chart, Doomfire Magenta looks "visually similar" (Darren Latham says that the Contrast range are a good replacement for the old inks). Otherwise, as @Bryan Blaire says, I think you'd be looking at the either artist's acrylic inks (Liquitex's range has a magenta but it's not as pink; Daler-Rowney's FW Ink "Process Magenta" looks similar but a bit lighter). Looking at the normal hobby ranges, the closest Vallejo Xpress Colour (Cardinal Purple) isn't a great match, nor is the Magenta Ink in the new Game Colour range. I don't think Greenstuff World's Glorious Magenta is a great match either, and am running out of ideas at this point. Frustratingly, there's really not much information on that paint when you put it into Google et al. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5924625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 if you have no joy drop me a pm and ill look though my backups in case i have a spare one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5925632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 Thank you all for your replies! I will take a look at the FW or Liquitex products, and see whether one of them will work out! Faithfully, Master Ciaphas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5925669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Whenever buying a paint/ink you really like... it's best to get an extra 3 !! Good Luck master C in finding a substitute !!! M. Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5925884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 i dont know if it matches for colour but doomfire magenta in the contrast range is hands down one of my favorite colours GW has ever made :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5925912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Pretty sure I have the full ink range from back then in the loft gathering dust, along with an old pot of festering blue that refuses to die! I'll have a look later to see if I have doomfire magenta. If I do I might be able to do a comparison of the two on a couple of test models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5929786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 I barely remember the magenta, but I have a feeling that Flesh Tearers Red will be close to it, otherwise Sigvald Burgundy might work? How will you be using it - as glazes or like a wash/contrast? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5929901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 sorry for the potato cam shot quickly did this last night: inner wings are magenta ink outer wings are alternate magenta ink / doomfire magenta on the feathers (possibly a little wet on some of the contrast paint here between the feathers as I had to get dinner on so was rushing) helmet crest - left side doomfire contrast / right side magenta ink - these shows the most difference for effective coverage. they really are very similar in person. Better/more consistent coverage by the contrast paint. the ink has a more pink hue with a thinnner coat Colour-wise on the same model you might notice the difference ever so slightly but on different models I would expect you'd not even notice. It'll more come down to how you are using these for if the contrast version is suitable for this. Firedrake Cordova and Bryan Blaire 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5930374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 On 4/6/2023 at 1:03 PM, lhg033 said: sorry for the potato cam shot quickly did this last night: inner wings are magenta ink outer wings are alternate magenta ink / doomfire magenta on the feathers (possibly a little wet on some of the contrast paint here between the feathers as I had to get dinner on so was rushing) helmet crest - left side doomfire contrast / right side magenta ink - these shows the most difference for effective coverage. they really are very similar in person. Better/more consistent coverage by the contrast paint. the ink has a more pink hue with a thinnner coat Colour-wise on the same model you might notice the difference ever so slightly but on different models I would expect you'd not even notice. It'll more come down to how you are using these for if the contrast version is suitable for this. Wow, you really read my mind. That more reddish tone looks pretty nice though... BadgersinHills 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5933121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Vallejos new game inks appears to have a magenta that may also be suitable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5935511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I had exactly the same issue with the old Red Ink. Bought All the variations of red inks and washes from: Vallejo, Daler Rowney, Green Stuff World, Pro Acryl, Tamiya. Scalecolor Inktensity was the most right for the Red Ink. You might like the Pro Acryl Transparent Red for a magenta proxy. The Vallejo Model Colour Transp. Red is also good. 70.934 Bryan Blaire 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378044-magenta-red-oh-where-art-thou/#findComment-5936433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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