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Back in the day GW had an ink/wash named "Magenta Red"  - a kinda glossy red. 

I used this for my Tyranids - which I am close to finishing - but I am even closer to running out of Magenta Red! and I still need to paint "William, the Hierophant Bio-Titan"! 

Does anyone know of a proper substitute for Magenta Red?

Cheers and thanks in advance!

Faithfully,

Master Ciaphas

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Hmm ... that's one I don't actually remember! I don't suppose you have an image of the pot, so we can see what era it came from, etc? I can't find anything via Google (I don't know if it was from the old 1990's flip-top line, the original wash line [as opposed to inks], etc)

 

It's on DakkaDakka's compatability chart, but doesn't have any matches. :sad: 

I am also eeking out the last traces of my own Magenta Ink. I have not tested it yet but this looks like a proper replacement. If you run out before I do, give it a try and let me know how close it is.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Liquitex-4260114-liquid-professional-acrylic/dp/B00263VTWM

There’s also Daler-Rowney and Sennelier to check for magenta inks (I’m sure there’s more, but those are the three I am immediately familiar with) - then you can thin them down with your choice of Wash, flow improver, or other mediums to get the ink to move the way you want it to as well - can even try just adding it to straight Contrast Medium, or see if using GW’s Doomfire Magenta might work (although that looks brighter than the magenta inks from Liquitex, D-R, or Sennelier).

Edited by Bryan Blaire

Rummaging around on Google, I could only find two images of it - one on Collector-Info, and one from Darren Latham on Twitter.

 

Based on the colour swatch on Dakka Dakka's compatibility chart, Doomfire Magenta looks "visually similar" (Darren Latham says that the Contrast range are a good replacement for the old inks). Otherwise, as @Bryan Blaire says, I think you'd be looking at the either artist's acrylic inks (Liquitex's range has a magenta but it's not as pink; Daler-Rowney's FW Ink "Process Magenta" looks similar but a bit lighter).

 

Looking at the normal hobby ranges, the closest Vallejo Xpress Colour (Cardinal Purple) isn't a great match, nor is the Magenta Ink in the new Game Colour range. I don't think Greenstuff World's Glorious Magenta is a great match either, and am running out of ideas at this point. Frustratingly, there's really not much information on that paint when you put it into Google et al. :sad: 

  • 2 weeks later...

Pretty sure I have the full ink range from back then in the loft gathering dust, along with an old pot of festering blue that refuses to die! 

 

I'll have a look later to see if I have doomfire magenta. If I do I might be able to do a comparison of the two on a couple of test models.

 

 

sorry for the potato cam shot quickly did this last night:
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inner wings are magenta ink
outer wings are alternate magenta ink / doomfire magenta on the feathers (possibly a little wet on some of the contrast paint here between the feathers as I had to get dinner on so was rushing)
helmet crest - left side doomfire contrast / right side magenta ink - these shows the most difference for effective coverage.

they really are very similar in person. Better/more consistent coverage by the contrast paint. the ink has a more pink hue with a thinnner coat

 

Colour-wise on the same model you might notice the difference ever so slightly but on different models I would expect you'd not even notice. It'll more come down to how you are using these for if the contrast version is suitable for this.
 

On 4/6/2023 at 1:03 PM, lhg033 said:

sorry for the potato cam shot quickly did this last night:
large.20230405_185003.jpg.b206e2f46a4e26

 

inner wings are magenta ink
outer wings are alternate magenta ink / doomfire magenta on the feathers (possibly a little wet on some of the contrast paint here between the feathers as I had to get dinner on so was rushing)
helmet crest - left side doomfire contrast / right side magenta ink - these shows the most difference for effective coverage.

they really are very similar in person. Better/more consistent coverage by the contrast paint. the ink has a more pink hue with a thinnner coat

 

Colour-wise on the same model you might notice the difference ever so slightly but on different models I would expect you'd not even notice. It'll more come down to how you are using these for if the contrast version is suitable for this.
 

Wow, you really read my mind. That more reddish tone looks pretty nice though...

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I had exactly the same issue with the old Red Ink.

Bought All the variations of red inks and washes from: Vallejo, Daler Rowney, Green Stuff World, Pro Acryl, Tamiya.

Scalecolor Inktensity was the most right for the Red Ink.

You might like the Pro Acryl Transparent Red for a magenta proxy.

The Vallejo Model Colour Transp. Red is also good. 70.934

 

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