Inquisitor Trinity Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I was curious to get an idea of an exhaustive list of Infantry combat roles I could represent on the tabletop drawing ideas from both 40k lore AND real world army specialisms. Anyone get any list ideas? This would be for imperial armies and just infantry not vehicles etc. So far I've got these: Rifleman (basic general infantry) Medic Combat Engineer Communications specialist Weapons Specialist Grenadier Commando Sniper Heavy Weapons Specialist Officer (various ranks) Scout/Recon Specialist Veteran Breacher Military Police Conscript Explosives Expert Paratrooper Marine Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Would CQC specialization fall under Breacher? As far as I'm aware there aren't unit specialisations in that? I do like these two videos though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Clh5C38Eg - British Infantry Division 1914/1916 - Visualization - Organization & Structure https://youtu.be/w5nDcoXJMrg - How British Infantry Squads Evolved in 100 Years Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5925745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Potato Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Real world, you can remove Military Police from being in the Infantry. They're terrible at being Soldiers and aren't trusted with being actual Police. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5925799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I think you can add in servitor/drone operator to the list. In real life drone technology is getting handed out pretty far down the tactical level, and we also see this with the Tau and Navy Breachers. A political officer/overseer also makes sense. Imperial Commissars, Chaos Enforcers, and Ork Runt-herds could be examples. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5925809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Vakarian Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Sky Potato said: Real world, you can remove Military Police from being in the Infantry. They're terrible at being Soldiers and aren't trusted with being actual Police. If you’re talking about US Army MOS, this is true enough and I haven’t met any MPs that would contest the point. But the OP includes plenty of examples that also aren’t 11B’s, but fulfill some form of ground-combat role or specialization. An MP role is perfectly meaningful, especially with Arbites (yes, not MPs, but definitely police) having a role in the game now. As for whether MPs qualify as “soldiers” or “police,” I would hazard a guess there are several frater here who would disagree with the point as stated. And there is also quite a world of military police roles other than the US Army’s, or similar, MPs. Plenty of MPs I’ve worked with more than qualified as “soldiers” under pretty much any definition. And many are qualified police officers, with jurisdiction heavily dependent on how their countries conduct law enforcement duties. The Imperium definitely doesn’t seem like the sort of place that would shy away from using MPs for civilian law enforcement, if necessary or appropriate. Brother Lunkhead 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5925834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I believe there is room for both commissars and MP’s within the Guard force organisation. They fulfil different roles after all, with one concerned with unit morale and purity while the latter would be closer to the traditional intra unit role. Commissars wouldn’t come under the infantry remit of the OP but MP’s would imho. Brother Captain Vakarian 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5925855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentOne Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 In 40k, you need leaders of the faith- preachers. And you need psykers. Advisors, bodyguards. You might distinguish between concripts and penal troops- there are differences, but I'm not sure the differences constitutes a whole other role. sitnam 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5925859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Trinity Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 Some good info so far guys! So to add to the list would be: Drone/servitor operator Close combat specialist Morale officer (commissars etc) Preacher Psyker Penal legion Bodyguard Regarding the discussion around Military Police let's say Arbites more or less fulfill this role Is there anymore more general suggestions? Some form of weapon or skill specialist I've missed off the list ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5925910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) Interesting topic; the list you're collating will be great for suggesting characterful conversions. The lovely thing abut 40k is that it can encompass every soldier's role from every period of history, along with near-future and speculative sci-fi stuff. Here are some further ideas – though whether some count as combat roles is questionable! While this probably fits under weapon specialists more generally, there are a couple of specialisms that might warrant particular note above and beyond proficiency with an unusual or specialist weapon: Flamer specialists are (thankfully!) rare in the real world, but common in 40k. Chem-warfare (or more generally, atomic/nuclear, biological and/or chemical specialists) Likewise these are probably roles within combat engineer, but might provide some further inspiration Sapper Mine-layer/mine-sweeper Static fortification expert Runner/messenger Vox/comms-handler Wrangler (animal handler) Abhuman liaison – e.g. ogryn/ratling/beastman/squat Xenolinguist/codebreaker Alien environment observer (e.g. a medical officer who specialises in acclimatising Guardsmen to variations in gravity, oxygen levels and similar). Sentry Ranger Urban operations specialists Submarine operations specialists Void operations specialists Assassin Cyber/noospheric warfare specialist Counter-psychic specialist Intelligence operative Local liaison – those who work out how to contact/communicate with local human populations Edited March 28, 2023 by apologist Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5926034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouargh Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 if you also overlap with some less common roles from WWII and the moderns wars that took place right after, you might add as well; - Air cav. - Paratroopers - Mounted infantery (bad temperered camels rock) - Fortress infantery (interestingly enough they were partly taken from marine troops, especially for artillery marine guns operation) - Instead of Moral Officer, better call it Political officer - Beyond basic medic -> battlefield surgeon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5926059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Arbites arent MP's but im sure some have turned up in novels before, like em or not its a job that needs doing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5926088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gideon stargreave Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Marching bands Noserenda, sitnam and Evil Eye 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5926363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I don’t know if combined roles are something you’re considering, but as an example engineers typically performing breaching, explosive employment, and engineer duties. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5926725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Trinity Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, Bloody Legionnaire said: I don’t know if combined roles are something you’re considering, but as an example engineers typically performing breaching, explosive employment, and engineer duties. There will be a lot of crossover between roles for sure. Explosives/grenadiers/breachers for example. Okay everyone how about roles you might find more specialised like in the inquisition or Arbites for example? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5926753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I’d argue grenadiers belong with the riflemen and I’m glad GW designed Primaris intercessors to include them. But I’m a little biased (indoctrinated) =p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378081-infantry-roles/#findComment-5926757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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