2000 points - Black Legion

[strawberry fist]

I’ve got what could be the last tournament I can attend before 10th drops and want to have a good end to the edition with the Black Legion. What do you guys think to the list? Previously I’ve run a couple of predators although fancy a change and try a couple of Wardog to hold backfield and try popping a tank or some heavy infantry with their damage 3 auto cannons (also makes grind them down a good option to gain a CP) I’m thinking of Despoil Doninions and Long War as two secondaries I’m always likely choose and the third be flexiable depending on match up.   
 

thanks in advance 

HQ

Abaddon the Despoiler (-1CP)

Merciless Overseer, Eternal Vendetta, Paragon of Hatred, Talon of Horus, Drach'nyen

Stratagem: Warlord Trait

 

Dark Apostle (-1CP)

Chaos Undivided

Dark Apostle: Accursed crozius, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades

2x Dark Disciple: 2x Close combat weapon

Prayers - Illusory Supplication

Stratagem: Relic - Cloak of Conquest

 

Master of Possession (-1CP) 

Mark of Slaanesh

Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Staff of Possession

Psychic- Mutated Invigoration, Pact of Flesh, Delightful Agonies, Smite Stratagem: Relic - Liber Hereticus

 

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (-1CP)

Mark of Slaanesh

Chaos Familiar, Combi-melta, Force stave

Psychic -Death Hex, Warptime, Delightful Agonies, Smite

Stratagem: Relic - Veilbreaker Plate,

 

Troops

Legionaries x5

Mark of Tzeentch

Chaos Icon, 

Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades, Power fist

3x boltgun and bolt pistol

Legionary w/ heavy weapon: Bolt pistol, Reaper chaincannon

 

Legionaries x5

Mark of Tzeentch

Chaos Icon,

Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades, Power fist

3x boltgun and bolt pistol

Heavy weapon: Bolt pistol, Missile launcher

 

Legionaries x5

Mark of Tzeentch

Chaos Icon

Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades, Power fist

3x boltgun and bolt pistol

Heavy weapon: Bolt pistol, Reaper chaincannon

 

Elites

Chaos Terminator Squad (-1CP)

Mark of Slaanesh

Trophies of the Long War - Black Rune of Damnation

X4 combi-melta and power fists

X2 combi-bolter and powerfists

X4 combi-bolter and accursed weapons 

 

Possessed

x5 Possessed: x5 Hideous mutations

 

Fast Attack

Venomcrawler 

2x Excruciator cannon, Soulflayer tendrils and claws

 

Allied detachment

War Dog Executioner Squadron

House Vextrix

War Dog Executioner: Diabolus heavy stubber, 2x War Dog autocannon

War Dog Executioner: Diabolus heavy stubber, 2x War Dog autocannon

[abaumann]

Almost wondering if some cheap auto cannon Havocs, and a unit of melta bikers could take the place of the war dogs. I feel like the war dogs will be an easy target for anything shooty that can match their range, and the 2D3 autocannons might get underwhelming for the points. If you’re rolling 1s and 2s you’re paying nearly 2.5 times the points of an auto cannon Havoc squad. You could even add a few possessed with the leftover points.

 

Edit: I take that back, the 3 damage does make a difference…but still, seems like you might get more value out of some faster units that don’t degrade like bikers, or even a spawn for warptime usage.

Edited April 5, 2023 by abaumann

[strawberry fist]

I had thought about swapping the Wardogs for a unit of 9 bikes with a melta gun and power fist as they can do despoil dominions and count towards long war. Though I’d suffer with longer range anti-tank 

[abaumann]

Hmm, good point. On that note, I saw a winning tournament list recently that had lascannons and heavy chainaxes on each of the legionaries squads since they are currently free…might be an interesting option. But then you lose some anti-horde from the chaincannons. Would one dog and one predator be a bad idea?

[strawberry fist]

I had thought about putting a lascannon in a legionaire squad instead of the missile launcher and keeping it back on the backfield objective. But then how effective is one lascannon going to be?

 

I’d be tempted to run two rather than one of each incase the other is destroyed. The wardogs can move quick and are obsec, where as the predators can punch through armour but rarely benefit from the +1 to hit from the black legion trait. 

[abaumann]

I didn’t realize war dogs are obsec, that’s a big plus!

[abaumann]

Resurrecting this thread…How did it go including the war dogs?

[strawberry fist]

For the tournament I went to they worked really well. I faced 2 armies that either had 1 vehicle or none and they did well at hold back field objectives and deleting a unit sometimes one each a turn (depending on how well I rolled). They struggled against shooting infantry squads that had invulnerable saves in the game against sisters but did well against blood angels assault marines and sanguinary guard. They didn’t do too bad against vehicles but they struggled to pop one each a turn.