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Last year, GW seemed to indicate that most non legion specific units would be released in Plastic, but now we see some consols in Resin as well as some tanks redone in Resin to take the new plastic sponsons.

 

While we have gotten a LOT of plastics, it seems lots of Resin will remain in the range. How do you all feel about that?

 

Personally, I dislike working with Forgeworld Resin and wish more stuff was released in plastic. 

5 hours ago, Marshal Mittens said:

Personally, I dislike working with Forgeworld Resin and wish more stuff was released in plastic. 

Me too.

Ok, I'm an old school boy and I love metal miniatures. But resin is a real good material.  Plastic in also great but production costs make the miniatures' production and final prices expensive. I can accept that.

The problem with FW is, well, the stuff is fine but not remarkable,  they have very good designs (Specially in Necromunda) but is terrible expensive, for the type material. Resin theoretically is the cheapest way to made miniatures(Cheaper than metal and plastic).And in my personal case, problematic to buy (That, or Icelandic Customs Department hates me A LOT...). Adding to this, some products have strange spans of life (some disappear fast, others are long lived, and others products are replaced very slowly. Sabre tanks for example)

 

I just want more generic stuff in plastic or an easy and no-so-expensive way to buy FW material.

Edited by AGRAMAR

I have zero problems with resin tbh. Sure, it takes a little bit more care in some regards but it's just another material to work with. Hell, working with 3d printer resin is MUCH more dangerous than regular ol' FW style resin. Only real downer is how much more expensive resin components are in my opinion.

All materials are beautiful!

I think for the lower volume items such as super heavies, Legion specific units then resin is fine (however can be a nightmare to work with on vehicles).

 

I think the biggest concern of mine is that the Javelin isn't making the jump to plastic as I genuinely expected that.

I'm more frustrated on them being inconsistent than anything. Tanks are a bit more forgivable as most of the ones released in plastic are the most common ones to sell and mass produce, while the ones that stayed resin are niche and only a few players would grab. Upgrades got weird with the despoiler arms going resin vs the rest of the weapons, but the rumored argument that it's just a holdover until the plastic assault squad kit comes out for another mark of armour makes some sense? Then we get to characters, which is a total crapshoot, as some some heroes go plastic while others go resin, and is basically a 50/50 coin flip. Generic dreadnoughts going to plastic is great, but getting rid of resin bodies for torsos does not sit well with most. Main thing that makes no sense is the javelin, as it fits the category of being relatively small, and is likely to be bought in multiples, which would make sense to convert over to plastic.

28 minutes ago, arnesh88 said:

I'm more frustrated on them being inconsistent than anything. Tanks are a bit more forgivable as most of the ones released in plastic are the most common ones to sell and mass produce, while the ones that stayed resin are niche and only a few players would grab. Upgrades got weird with the despoiler arms going resin vs the rest of the weapons, but the rumored argument that it's just a holdover until the plastic assault squad kit comes out for another mark of armour makes some sense? Then we get to characters, which is a total crapshoot, as some some heroes go plastic while others go resin, and is basically a 50/50 coin flip. Generic dreadnoughts going to plastic is great, but getting rid of resin bodies for torsos does not sit well with most. Main thing that makes no sense is the javelin, as it fits the category of being relatively small, and is likely to be bought in multiples, which would make sense to convert over to plastic.

Which character got a plastic model?

I really don't get it, sure some of the larger kit's they won't shift but stuff like the shoulder pads and praetors I figured should, of all things, be in plastic. Hell 40k has plastic named characters which counters the arguments of 'well you'll only buy the one' and several 40k chapters have a firstborn upgrade and a number more have Primaris upgrades.

 

Just seems like GW throws a dart at a board to see if it's plastic or resin. Or like that South Park episode, cut the head off a chicken and see where it stops.

24 minutes ago, SlickSamos said:

Or throw darts at a headless chicken with a dartboard strapped to its back...

 

That I would like to see :blink:

 

As for the resin models, it's a weird thing. I don't mind working with resin as such but it feels a bit silly to get generic consuls in resin when the main games (and even some side games) get the dumbest irrelevant stuff in plastic. On the other hand, if they would release stuff in plastic rather than resin there would be even less off a chance to get our hands on stuff because there would be even more plastic models to share the production time and go out of stock. If we're honest, GW as a company is absolutely atrociously bad at production managment so the models showing up in resin means that we'll at least be more likely to actually get them.  There's a wealth of backlog in plastic to pilfer for bits to convert stuff with. 

 

All that said, I won't get any resin models anymore because FW have crossed the threshold where I just don't see the value for money anymore regardless of whether I can afford it.  There's a wealth of backlog in plastic to pilfer for bits to convert stuff with so converting with plastic bits it is for me. And has been for some time already

Resin is fine when they use it properly and really i dont think FW do these days, like compared Severein Lloth and the new Librarian for a topical example. I can understand the business decision to make things resin instead of plastic but pass on some of those savings rather than doing the opposite! 

But yeah, when the quality is there its great, i got a whole Mk3 army because they were so nice compared to conversions at the time but right now plastic is almost as good for the majority of things which means you have to up your game for things like generic characters if you want my money :P 

I have no problem with resin. It's just not as bad as many people would have us believe. That being said..... plastic is better and anything they move to plastic is a good thing.

I have yet to see a plastic kit from GW with that matches the fine detail of some of the FW Primarch models though so I think resin still has it's place. 

I’d prefer all the non-legion specific units were in plastic but if they are going to keep some in resin I’d rather they prioritised the remaining legion Praetors over the generic units. 
 

One thing to bear in mind though is the lead time on plastic units. The relaunch of Heresy and the plastic kits that came with it would’ve been green lit at least 2 years ago. At that time, GW were taking a bit of a gamble that it’d be a success and would be worth the cost of the moulds. They would’ve only authorised ones that were lower risk. The fact they now struggle to produce enough of the humble rhino to meet demand has shown it was a success.
 

I’d bet they’ve already green lit a whole slew of new plastic units based on the success of the first batch so we might see some of these slightly more niche resin minis transition to plastic in the next 18 months or so. 

I enjoy working with resin but of course the cost can be a off putting. The issue I find with recent releases particularly characters/consuls etc is that they often seem lacking in ‘character’ or detail compared to some older models.

For example, the recent Character Heads Upgrade sets were a welcome addition but for the most part the heads all have the same proportions and look very similar; compare these heads to many of the older resin heads from various kits which had a lot of variation in face shape. The Librarian Consul revealed yesterday is another example of a fairly listless model lacking in interest.

I’m not sure if this down to the switch to CAD from hand sculpted models? I assume with CAD there is a base template rather than sculpting from scratch.  don’t know when the switch was made so I cannot make prove this theory with any certainty and of course it is just a personal aesthetic preference.

 

i dont mind resin as a material, however GWs sculpting and the way they cut the minis is worse than its ever been. The details are getting thicker like metal minis and the cost is astronomical. IF they were still the industry leaders they were 12-15 years ago id understand but they arent the market has caught up and in places overtaken them and they dont realise or more likely are trying to hide the fact. 

 

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