Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) apparently on the web store you can now search by keywords and these show up under deepstrike. though there are some known inaccuracies so might not pan out Edited June 7, 2023 by Inquisitor_Lensoven Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Scout move for Invictor makes a lot more sense Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5956101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, Dark Shepherd said: Scout move for Invictor makes a lot more sense I can see the thought process. if jump pack infantry can drop from aircraft or low orbit, and land safely, why couldn’t a speeder? i don’t have strong feelings one way or another about this, but it makes a certain sense to me. Sea Creature 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5956105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 They've had it before for an edition IIRC - not surprised it came back. Speeders fly so they're one of the best or least hamstrung vehicles out there. I'm more interested in if Drop Pod Assault and Terminator Assault are still some sort of thing. Half Drop on Turn 1? Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5956142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Augustus Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 7th ed deepstike 'speeders were a very cool tool. If they get D.S. back you better believe you'll see multimelta (now at least twice as good as they were in 7th stats wise) landspeeders showing up. I never stopped putting mine on the table but I don't play much tourney these days. Sea Creature and Inquisitor_Lensoven 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5956475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaplain Augustus said: 7th ed deepstike 'speeders were a very cool tool. If they get D.S. back you better believe you'll see multimelta (now at least twice as good as they were in 7th stats wise) landspeeders showing up. I never stopped putting mine on the table but I don't play much tourney these days. I just hope the thunderstrike stays at 2+ to hit. Sea Creature 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5956489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 They're pseudo Sternguard Drop Pod bombs - and (I may be biased as I never liked the suicidal bomb aspect but:) that's not necessarily as good as it was even with the improvements to Melta because of the even greater improvements to T. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5956529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Just wait until the datasheets are released for download. Won't be long now. That'll confirm what abilities they have. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5956544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 As an ancient from 2e who prefers to play all Primaris, I have not fallen in love with these new Speeders. The old ones, like the boxnaughts are just more playable if nothing else. Vehicle models have gotten way too big to have fun with imo. Forté and derLumpi 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5956793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 See now I'm also an oldie, but I do like the new Speeders. Of course I also like the old speeders and would use either or both. I like the idea of an Old Speeders + TFC (with cooler TFC rules similar to the original) combined single data sheet unit where the Speeder(s) from these unit(s) can share telemetry/etc with the TFC(s) to allow LOS/Indirect without drawback etc. Bouargh and Dracos 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5956967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Datasheets are up on Warhammer Community... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5957366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 DS confirmed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5957439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Yeah, but it doesn't really matter anymore. My kitchen sink now has Anti-Fly 2+. FLY'ers - so speeders, jump packs, etc - not just "AIRCRAFT" are sitting ducks this edition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5957557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted June 17, 2023 Author Share Posted June 17, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 10:33 PM, Tacitus said: Yeah, but it doesn't really matter anymore. My kitchen sink now has Anti-Fly 2+. FLY'ers - so speeders, jump packs, etc - not just "AIRCRAFT" are sitting ducks this edition. It does especially the AT variants, if you can get an angle on a monster or vehicle they’re hiding from a lascannon devastator squad for example, you may not kill it out right, but you’ll force them to be much more cautious after blaring a bunch of wounds off of it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378876-speeders-deepstriking-in-10/#findComment-5961707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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