TrawlingCleaner Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 For the Emperor and Sanguinius! Spyros and ZeroWolf 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) 1st Thanks for the link, cross-posting in BA land too for those after a more specialised view. Edited June 12, 2023 by Jolemai Spyros, Arkangilos and Xenith 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 This is pretty sweet. The Sanguinor is going to be auto-include in most BA armies with Fight First and a free jack-in-the-box appearance mechanic. Not convinced that "Sons of Sanguinius" will be better than GSF but I will need to consider it. Mephiston, Dante and Lemartes are all amazing choices now. The only downside for Mephiston is that he is limited to leading some slightly underwhelming units. Dante + Sanguinary Guard are going to be amazing, as will Lemartes + Jump DC. Overall there is a lot to like here. OK, now the bad. Why have Firstborn Death Company lost their Thunder Hammers? They are right there in the box. Limiting Sanguinary Guard to 1 power fist per 5 models at least does fit with the box but is darn irritating! Spyros and DemonGSides 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Karhedron said: OK, now the bad. Why have Firstborn Death Company lost their Thunder Hammers? They are right there in the box. They haven't? Both foot DC and jump pack DC have a Thunder Hammer as an option for any number of models, (losing boltgun and bolt pistol as well, as before) - first section on the back. Primaris DC, 1 model can take a thunder hammer but no more, which is as before also I think. An ordinary JP chaplain is no slouch for DC either, with +1 to wound. (assuming Lemartes -1 damage ability gets FAQ'd so it can't reduce to 0 - otherwise Lemartes is an obvious auto-take!) Sanguinary priests can only go in first born units which is kinda annoying, though could spice up assault marines. Edited June 12, 2023 by Arkhanist Lord Blacksteel, VanDutch, Spyros and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashsnee Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) The firstborn/primaris divide is taken to such stupid stupid extremes with the characters its not even funny. Like i cant go beyond it, i cant examine the units, every time i hit a character i look at who he can join and it just stops me cold. Its being silly. Sanguinary priest Bloodoael you will support the intercessors! No. What do you mean no? Sorry my captain but they make me look short and it kills my sexy swagger. Chief Apothecary Corbulo, whose lore is he loves primaris, thought they were the best thing ever and the hope of the entire chapter? Cant stand them mate keep them at least 3" at any time. Of course since primaris dont have Jump packs yet Dante becomes the only Marine in the Imperium who can cross the REAL rubicon primaris and join outside his caste. ... Edited June 12, 2023 by Nagashsnee RolandTHTG, Subtleknife, sockwithaticket and 8 others 6 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDutch Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Lemartes (and his attached unit) has the “reduce damage by 1” without “to a minimum of 1”, which is even more hilarious than the Redemptor having it. Sarges, Karhedron and Spyros 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 So, Dante’s pistol that had been given increased range with his update a few weeks back.. went back to 6” lol. His rules are okay but a lack of CP related benefit makes him seem a tad underwhelming, also he has no synergy with sanguinary guard as both just impose -1 to hit. mephiston is fine DC intercessors really needed to be able to take more melee weapons, even if it were just 2 of each kind (what you get in an assault intercessor squad box), and the lack of ability to mix said weapons at all is shocking. happyslugger 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, VanDutch said: Lemartes (and his attached unit) has the “reduce damage by 1” without “to a minimum of 1”, which is even more hilarious than the Redemptor having it. I think I just heard the sound of some Death Guard players literally popping with rage. Spyros, DemonGSides, Oxydo and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 No wait, I misread, Dante and sanguinary guard do work together hurrah Karhedron and DemonGSides 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyslugger Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Now I just need some primaris DC jump pack guys and some primaris sanguinary guard lol Silas7, Overkill and burningsky25 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Arkhanist said: I think I just heard the sound of some Death Guard players literally popping with rage. I play both so I've reached Nirvana lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Lemartes + jump pack DC sounds good, though I expect the -1 damage to get FAQ-ed soon, but hilarious if it stays. DC dread is quirky too. Why Priests cannot join SG is beyond me. DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 My gods, they've finally given the Baal Predator advance and fire, something it should have gained years ago! Lots of good stuff in there. I'm liking the passive buffs from the priests, though I dislike how normal apothercaries get to revive models, and priests only get the FNP. Bit of a weird one, guess I'll have to combine the two! tinpact and VanDutch 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Yeah, they can't seem to make up their minds what the Sanguinary Priest is actually supposed to do. At least he still has the Jump Pack option. The combination of 5+++, extra pip of AP in melee and being able to add him as well as a Cap/Lt is going to make him somewhat useful. Making him Firstborn only is understandable but barring him from the SG is irritating to say the least. Spyros and Carcosa 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5958905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 DC have A5/S5 on charge, rerolling all hits and rerolling 1s to wound with attached chaplain. I'll take that. A bit annoyed there's no relic to run a DC character. My DC Lt will have to sit this edition out and shout motivational slogans from the sidelines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5959100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, Craig said: DC have A5/S5 on charge, rerolling all hits and rerolling 1s to wound with attached chaplain. I'll take that. Possibly evn better, add Lemartes. He gives the unit the -1 Damage rule and also Devastating Wounds (6s to Wound become MWs). Interestingly the -1 Damage rule does not includes the caveat "to a minimu mof 1". This means that RAW, Lemartes and his unit are immune to 1 damage weapons. I expect this will be errata'ed pretty quickly as it affects quite a few other units like Redemptor Dreads and Stromraven Gunships. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5959104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 This is the former NR&A topic. As we don't require two, continue any discussion on the link below: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378931-blood-angels-index/#findComment-5959225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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