Does anyone know when we'll get the "Index" for Legends of the Horus Heresy Models?

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

Yeah, just wanting to see the datacard for a Spartan.

[Colman]

This week, from what they’ve said. Please let it transport Primaris!

[Interrogator Stobz]

Some previous rumours state that Combat Patrol Datasheets are out on Tue 20th, and Boarding Patrol and Crusade are out on Fri 23rd, GMT.

 

No mention of the FW Compendium/Legendarium but my feeling is the later date.

Edit: as per below it's definitely coming, most likely with Combat Patrol if their punctuation is an indication.

Edited June 19, 2023 by Interrogator Stobz

[Colman]

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On Warhammer Community, the new edition of Warhammer 40,000 is still the focus – in addition to rules for continuing your Crusade campaign, you’ll soon be able to download the Combat Patrol rules for each faction box, find Datasheets for the Legends of the Horus Heresy, and get the latest news of the new Warhammer 40,000 app

From this week’s Sunday preview.

[Captain Idaho]

Hmm. What about main 40K legends? Is that included in the FW legends time frame? Because Calgar in Terminator armour is amazing looking.

Edited June 19, 2023 by Captain Idaho

[Interrogator Stobz]

My guess is they're all bundled together. 

So instead of having a Compendium which was usable, for the same amount of work they have a Legendarium which isn't. 

Edited June 20, 2023 by Interrogator Stobz

[Bouargh]

8 hours ago, Captain Idaho said:

Hmm. What about main 40K legends? Is that included in the FW legends time frame? Because Calgar in Terminator armour is amazing looking.

 

i) Merged together in a single Legends issue, or ii) released separatley (eventually with 40K Legends released but at a later date - ¿in codex time frame?)... Or iii) squatted.

 

I have a bad feeling on that one...

But I am quite convinced that the stuff that used to be in Legends in 9th Ed. will disappear, as well as all the discontinued FW models that were removed from shelves other the past quarters - lost to the warp. Will probably remain only stuff taken from active HH range. But I am a poor overseer in general, so I might b wrong.  

[Captain Idaho]

Cor if everything previously in Legends goes and new stuff is added, everyone will know that their units are due to be gone in an edition.

 

That'll cause sparks to fly. 

[Arkhanist]

Based upon the recent changes and levels of sparkage that's caused, it feels like a near certainty that anything that didn't make it into the indexes this time (and is not the heresy plastics) is gone for good ruleswise.

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

1 hour ago, Arkhanist said:

anything that didn't make it into the indexes this time (and is not the heresy plastics)

What units fall here? I can't think of any.

[Arkhanist]

25 minutes ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

What units fall here? I can't think of any.

 

The old legends pdf is gone, and I don't have a copy to hand.

 

For generic marines; chaplain dreadnought, Librarian/apothecary/techmarine on bike, Land Raider Excelsior, rhino primaris and imperial space marine spring to mind.  Chaplain on bike is back due to the primaris version, same for the primaris company champion.  There were a number of forgeworld vehicles that have gone too, though I imagine they will end up in the heresy legends list since they can almost all be made from the new plastic kits IIRC. 

 

Of current index entries that are potentially at risk, there's the B&C contemptor, relic terminators, land speeders (rumoured) and whatever's going to happen with the original boxnaught; though it may be that only the basic plastic one retires, the veteran one stays and they share the 'dreadnought' datasheet in the codex.

 

I'm not familiar enough with other armies to say what was in the previous legends that are no longer in the indexes; I believe orks have lost some.

Edited June 20, 2023 by Arkhanist

[Interrogator Stobz]

23 hours ago, Colman said:

From this week’s Sunday preview.

So, not with the Combat Patrol stuff.

Probably Friday then....

Been wrong enough to not hold my breath. 

[Doobles57]

13 hours ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

So, not with the Combat Patrol stuff.

Probably Friday then....

Been wrong enough to not hold my breath. 

I was hoping today or tomorrow. Playing the first games of 10th tomorrow night and would have been nice to use a couple of the models. Or half my Custodes army. Ah well, next week then.

[Bouargh]

Part of the doubt is now cleared. We have at hand the Legends from the HH, which feature a limited amount of HH and other FW kits (especially for Chaos).

Only SM, AdMech (3 DS) and Chaso SM.

 

The rest is... either phased-out or released in a "close" future with other sorts of Legends. Then we will see if Astra militarum remain with toys, if Former Legends from 8-9th disappear or remain...

The WarCom also talk of future IA Compendiums but will they be Custodes and Knight only, or can we expect something else (again, Astra Militarum, at least as it remains on the FW website...)? 

 

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What you won’t find in this download are units from the Adeptus Custodes and Knight Households. You can find their rules in the associated Imperial Armour compendiums, which will be released in the near future. Also coming soon are the datasheets for those non-Heresy-era units entering Legends. 

 

[Karhedron]

On 6/19/2023 at 4:55 PM, Colman said:

This week, from what they’ve said. Please let it transport Primaris!

 

Specifically mentions that Gravis take up 2 slots so the Primaris Party Bus is go! 

[Brother Tyler]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/21/the-legends-of-the-horus-heresy-get-downloadable-rules-for-warhammer-40000/

[MegaVolt87]

Where are all the HH units for CSM? This is pathetic GW. 

[Cactus]

1 hour ago, MegaVolt87 said:

Where are all the HH units for CSM? This is pathetic GW. 

 

There's a page at the end of the Astartes document that tells you which units can be taken by which flavours of traitor. Somebody put an image of it in another thread but I'm too tired to go and find it.

[Arkhanist]

Obviously copy and pasting the same sheets into a 2nd pdf would take far too much time and effort. Chaos really do get the brown and sticky end of the stick these days.