Community Project Poll pt 2

[Gamiel]

Some thoughts about the Thornwatch from the concept thread:

  

On 6/18/2023 at 12:44 PM, Gamiel said:

Suggest them doing like the Emperor's Spears' and grouping-together their Librarians, Chaplains, Techmarines and Apothecaries under the term “druids”, and have that they all paint their armour white, and/or dress in white robes as a reference to that druids suposedly wore white. 

 

Maybe have that Librarians are more like the WS's Stormseers and SW's Rune Priests then the standard SM Librarian when it comes to teaching and powers.

 

Pop-cultural celts are more often then not depicted with rather minimal armour but with large shields, maybe they use lots of shields?

 

Human sacrifices to please the Emperor and/or read the future in their hearts/innards.

 

The "dark Celts" that it feels you are going for here pop-culturally come in two forms in my impression, either boastful and loud (similar to how the SW are often presented, but maybe even more about reciting their own deeds and insulting enemies) or quite and of few words with animalistic grounts more common. Maybe go with one of those concepts, or not, it's your idea (or anybody's that picks it up).

 

As a reference to the Pair Dadeni maybe have that they use medical sarcophagus to heal their gravely injured that look like primitive cauldrons, superficially at least. Or go another way, the people resurrected by Pair Dadeni (or the cauldron clearly inspired by it) is often depicted as undead, maybe have that they have something that resurrect the dead in some way: maybe their Librarians can "resurrect" their fresh dead to continue fighting for a short time after their death, or they have some kind of "resurrection-tech", maybe something similar to what was used by Autek Mor during the HH, or similar to what House Escher uses to create their Death-maidens. Or maybe the whole chapter is made up by "resurrected" in the form of the chapter recruiting from the young warriors who have fallen on the battlefield. 

 

On 6/20/2023 at 10:38 PM, Xin Ceithan said:

But I really enjoy  the input.  
 

And maybe they are descendants of the Atlanteans, er, the Atlantean Spears while we are going beyond the Ninth Wave? They certainly should a have a mystic vein! 
 

For my two pence, I think the trick would be not just having them “Emperor’s Spears but with Blood Angels” ? 
 

I feel ADB’s Spears have a very well researched “british isles” / Arturo- celts vibe to them.  I also like to involve a bit more cultural drift / mishmash to invoke more of the “ vibe” and strangeness of 40 K and set it several  thousand years apart.

That and “rule of cool” - so they should totally have specialist “Druids” 
 

So my - very broad - idea  at this point would be to go for the more Tribal Irish” side of  things.  Which  also mixes well with the more Michelangelo / Roman-Catholic side of the whole Angels thing - which then gets a hefty dose of mesoamerican “Mueros” with a hefty dose of Blanchitsu skulls and blood and things for the design aesthetics.

 

 

I also think there’d be a way to reflect at the BA geneseed allegedly lends itself to some sort of artistic expression, so there’d be ample room for elaborate Deathmasks and armor/ body painting, charms, chants, etc. 

 

So, their Dreadnaught sarcophagi are these massive funeral vault things with angelic art and thorns and skulls and flower and blood drop motive, full of festive candles and their aspirants go through visions of the underworld as the Sanguinary Druid-Priests pump them full of BA blood/ gene seed. They probably go heavy on the whole Death-Rebirth thing- maybe to the point where they are indeed pushing the envelope there with the use of resurrection tech in the creation of “cauldron-born” inductees in times of need, while the truly deserving get the full Dreadnaught package,

 

Like wise, their version of the Imperial Cult is on the Death/ Blood Cult side, bu maybe they not only gather it in cauldrons, but maybe they plant groves of holy trees and string up sacrifices to bleed for nourishment of the trees / the Emperor on sites / worlds where they have battled ( a bloodier version of the Iron Snakes “Rite of Water “)? If they have worlds under their protection, these groves might be places of worship by the populace - and might lead to conflict with Eclessiarchy and such? 
 

Their fortress monastery might be a huge temple city, a wild mix of ancient trees and overgrown mesoamericam pyramids.
 

And you better believe that post-Circatrix, they bleed an awful lot of people to reestablish connection with the Astronomican!  

 

[Xin Ceithan]

So I am having one of the busier weeks at work currently, but I already enjoy seeing the creative mojo (or the Celtic equivalent) picking up speed here.

 

I’ll try to get some thoughts in but in the meantime I’d like to thank @Gamiel for liking my earlier ramblings here for ease of reference. 

 

 

[Minigiant]

I would assume that Daimyo has stepped away for a summer vacation, as should we all. Could another mod member ( @Brother Cambrius, @Brother Lunkhead, @Kelborn, or @Lysimachus) please start our next poll in the mean while.

[Zebulon]

If it helps to decide anything, my vote would also be for Celtic/Druid marines…

[Minigiant]

23 minutes ago, Zebulon said:

If it helps to decide anything, my vote would also be for Celtic/Druid marines…

 

I encourage you to vote in the runoff.

[Minigiant]

Potential/Inspiration for a Celtic/Druidic Blood Angels Symbol (Woadbearers....?):

Edited July 18, 2023 by Minigiant

[Gamiel]

5 hours ago, Minigiant said:

Potential/Inspiration for a Celtic/Druidic Blood Angels Symbol (Woadbearers....?):

Nice but too advanced for anything on a pauldron me think, could work on a banner maybe. 

 

Based on that the chapter's name is Thornwatch would I suggest using the Eldars thorny heart symbol or the thorny symbol from the Dark Eldar transfer sheet, since those already exist and we don't need to creat a new symbol - which is a plus if we want others to actually pain them. 

Edited July 18, 2023 by Gamiel