Xenith Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) It came to my attention last night that in 10th Ed, tabling your opponent is an automatic win, regardless of VP scored in the game. This is interesting as VP and progressive scoring were brought in to counter this very thing - either trying to sit back and blast your opponent off the table by T5, or hang back and steal objectives in T5 in end of game scoring missions. Progressive scoring, and multiple objective scenarios were designed to increase the importance of troops, and reduce the ability of powerful shooting armies from dominating the game. Now with tabling being back n the game as a viable route to win any game, regardless of mission, scenario, primaries, sticky or random secondaries, is tabling your opponent going to be the primary focus when building an army? The whole point of the force org chart was to prevent skew armies with disproportionate firepower, and the addition of the ObSec rule was designed to empower base troops in holding objectives and winning the mission. Now, the strongest units in the game, like tanks, have OC 3-5, and can easily hold an objective against 2 tactical marines, something they couldn't do in 9th, all the while blasting things off the table. With this in mind, is there even any point trying to build an army to complete missions, or should the missions be something that you try to do incidentally as a backup on the way to tabling your opponent? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, and if I've missed something. This seems to be a huge step backwards from the "your dudes can still win the day if they complete their missions" vibe of 9th that made every battle worth fighting, and seems to take 10th back to 3rd or 5th, where firepoer wins the day. Similarly, armies with fast mobile firepower or large amounts of indirect should be dominating. Edited July 13, 2023 by Xenith Starlight_Wolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379517-10th-ed-if-tabling-is-an-auto-win-are-missions-pointless-ignore-misread/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) It's worth pointing out, so far tabling your opponent wins the game, is the case for the Mission: Only War (where you don't deploy an objective markers at all) and not the case for any other gamemodes so far. Scoring Objectives, as it was in 9th, is absolutely still viable to win even if tabled. There are 'Nid and Ork lists at the moment that are winning games based purely on scoring early and scorign hard before being tabled Edited July 13, 2023 by TrawlingCleaner ZeroWolf, Interrogator Stobz, Karhedron and 3 others 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379517-10th-ed-if-tabling-is-an-auto-win-are-missions-pointless-ignore-misread/#findComment-5971264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) D'oh! Thanks for the catch! That's really good to know. I struggled to find where it said the victory conditions in the middle of a game, and my opponent was sure that a tabling was sudden death. Time to close this shame thread Edited July 14, 2023 by Xenith Emperor Ming, Antarius, TrawlingCleaner and 4 others 5 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379517-10th-ed-if-tabling-is-an-auto-win-are-missions-pointless-ignore-misread/#findComment-5971281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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