MadGreek Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Doing a little Company/Chapter building. Setting up a Gravis Company, so going through the index to make sure I don't miss any Gravis equipped Marines. Suppressors do not have an armour keyword. At first I though it was because they had jump packs, but Inceptors also have jump packs, but have the gravis keyword as well. Do we (well, any of you, because clearly I DO NOT) know why there is no armour keyword here? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379572-suppressor-squad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Tacitus Posted July 18, 2023 Solution Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) They're most often lumped in with Gravis but fluff wise their armor is a one-off. Called Omnis which is a sub-version of Gravis surprisingly enough. Edited July 18, 2023 by Tacitus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379572-suppressor-squad/#findComment-5972782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Now see I thought most people associated the Omnis pattern as a cross of Tacticus and Phobos armor. Honestly though I couldn’t say for sure as I’ve never found Suppressors worth my time compared to Inceptors. Sea Creature 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379572-suppressor-squad/#findComment-5972919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Omnis is shared with the Stormspeeder crew so its not unique. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379572-suppressor-squad/#findComment-5972924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I’m fairly certain I’ve heard that before but for the love of me personally when making themed list I could care less what “armor” the guy driving a Whirlwind or any vehicle is sporting. Except for maybe the Invictor. Sorry got off topic. Whatever it is I have to agree Suppressors definitely don’t wear Gravis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379572-suppressor-squad/#findComment-5973044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel_danes Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Who pilots the Impulsor? Infiltrators? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379572-suppressor-squad/#findComment-5973290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lunkhead Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Semper Fi, MadGreek The Lexicanum describes the Omnis-Pattern armor worn by the Suppressors as a variant of Gravis armor and denotes a reference of 40a. Unfortunately, when I looked at the reference table, there was no 40a reference The last two Space Marine codices do not list Mk X Gravis armor in the keyword area for Suppressors, but all codices do list Mk X Gravis in the keyword section for Inceptors. There is the outside possibility that this was an oversite on the part of the authors, but I don't think that's likely two times in a row I have to give this to GW Space Marine codices for the win I don't think it even looks like Gravis armor in any respect, except maybe for the heavy boots. For what little it may be worth, I'm putting together a Gravis armor company myself, and although I love the Suppressors from a narrative standpoint, without clear reference, I'm not including them in that unit's order of battle. Edited July 20, 2023 by Brother Lunkhead Dracos, MadGreek and mel_danes 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379572-suppressor-squad/#findComment-5973307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Longinus Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 They have toughness 4; they're not gravis. Dracos, Karhedron and mel_danes 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379572-suppressor-squad/#findComment-5973740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Omnis is indeed not Gravis. Omnis is Omnis. Also, Mark X armor is completely modular as far as I remember, so that a tacticus wearing intercessor, who's an aggressor tomorrow, or a phobos inursor the next, is in part wearing the same armor in all three engagements. You build the armor onto the marines undersuit, getting different patterns with what pieces you put on. Honestly, the omnis being a gravis variant thing seemed just to be a shadowspear writer pulling at the fact that it was another primaris "jump" unit, introduced when the Gravis Inceptor had been sole case until then. This description seems to have stuck despite nothing in the design really suggesting a kinship, except perhaps that grav plate equipped boots, and perhaps that a given Omnis or Gravis configuration may share pieces between them (as would they presumably with tacticus and phobos variants.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379572-suppressor-squad/#findComment-5973840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Codex: Vanguard Space Marines (ie: the booklet that came with Shadowspear) directly quotes Omnis as: "a blend of the heavier Gravis configuration and the lighter Mk X versions favoured by other Vanguard Space Marines units." I don't personally read that as being a variant, but I'd also concede one could certainly interpret it as so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379572-suppressor-squad/#findComment-5973898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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