10th model wishlisting

[jimbo1701]

Hi all. 
 

As we got such a decent release last time around I wouldn’t expect much this time but obviously there are at least 2-3 model kits we can expect between kill team / codex release and the inevitable end of 10th campaign once all books are out. 
 

I suspect new units may be minimal and they will instead focus on updates given how many special characters and aspects are still in fine cast. Here’s the list:

 

Asurman 

Karandras

Fuegan 

baharroth 

prince yriel

illic nightspear

dragons

spiders

scorpions

hawks 

 

Rumours put scorpions in a kill team and I’d be amazed if we didn’t get karandras around the same time given previous aspect releases. I personally think we will see another aspect release with the codex itself and my wildcard is for a redone falcon turret to update the kit that doubles as a plastic firestorm. 
 

In any case I doubt 10th will be the edition that sees all plastic aspects, though to be honest the amount of finecast in existing armies across 40K will likely be next to nil once this edition is done with. 
 

Thoughts? 

[Karhedron]

Yes, another Aspect and their Phoenix Lord seems a fairly safe bet. Given that the Falcon chassis is used as the basis for the Fire Prism, Night Spinner and Wave Serpent, I am not sure I am expecting that to be updated yet. However a new Vyper would be quite interesting to match the style of the Harlquin vehicles. 

[TrawlingCleaner]

I think of the Plastics that need updating, the Vyper is definitely the most likely! Perhaps the Warwalks after that? It's not the worst sculpt by any stretch but is definitely showing it's age with mould slipping, much like the Imperial Guard Sentinels.

 

Craftworlds and Dark Eldar are still heavily plagued by Finecast, I'd personally prefer they update those first then move onto updating plastics

[jimbo1701]

3 hours ago, Karhedron said:

Yes, another Aspect and their Phoenix Lord seems a fairly safe bet. Given that the Falcon chassis is used as the basis for the Fire Prism, Night Spinner and Wave Serpent, I am not sure I am expecting that to be updated yet. However a new Vyper would be quite interesting to match the style of the Harlquin vehicles. 

it was more the turret I was Thinking could do with an update and retain the main chassis but good point about the viper - I hope they don’t change it too much as I actually love the silhouette. 

 

2 hours ago, TrawlingCleaner said:

I think of the Plastics that need updating, the Vyper is definitely the most likely! Perhaps the Warwalks after that? It's not the worst sculpt by any stretch but is definitely showing it's age with mould slipping, much like the Imperial Guard Sentinels.

 

Craftworlds and Dark Eldar are still heavily plagued by Finecast, I'd personally prefer they update those first then move onto updating plastics

indeed. Would put money on a sizable drukhari update this edition. 

[Kallas]

Yeah main thing for me is getting all of the Aspects into plastic. Warp Spiders and Swooping Hawks especially, as the oldest of the lot, then Fire Dragons and Scorpions - but really, all of them need it. Phoenix Lords definitely need an update, some of them can hold up ok (Baharroth is alright still, all things considered) but their new sculpting techniques are just, well, literal decades ahead of when these were sculpted - the new Maugan Ra and Jain Zar models are fantastic updates, and the other Phoenix Lords deserve the glow up.

 

Outside of Aspects, yeah the Vyper needs an update even though it, like the Falcon, do hold up pretty damn well. Once those and the Aspects get done, Eldar are sitting pretty much done - then we'd likely be looking at new units, probably new Aspects (Slicing Orbs anyone?), maybe more Anhrathe units, and possibly some esoteric Ynarri-style units to push that angle of the narrative some more.

[CancelledApocalypse]

I'd put money on the next plastic kit being scorpions (and Karandras), then spiders will most likely be next. Warp Spiders have been rumoured for a long time, though people are talking a lot more about scorpions right now. I suppose it's possible we'll get spiders and scorpions at the same time, as both are stealthy sudden-strike units and they might go together well in a kill team or similar. Another possibility is Illic and rangers in a combat patrol.

 

I'm really looking forward to hawks, dragons and their phoenix lords, though. The potential for a really cool, dynamic looking Baharroth has me salivating and Feugan is almost bound to look badass.

 

Btw, should Dire Avengers be in that list? Okay, they already have a plastic kit, but that kit is showing its age now, too - and they're not monopose bodies, like all the current kits that are coming out are.

[Kallas]

23 minutes ago, CancelledApocalypse said:

Btw, should Dire Avengers be in that list? Okay, they already have a plastic kit, but that kit is showing its age now, too - and they're not monopose bodies, like all the current kits that are coming out are.

Honestly, yeah. The DA kit is old and very poorly designed (ie, the sprues themselves are terribly inefficient), even though it's far better than any of the Failcast kits.

[CancelledApocalypse]

Interestingly, nearly half of the eldar range is temporarily unavailable on the UK GW website right now, and the old metal/finecast phoenix lords are nowhere to be seen. Did they withdraw them? Or are they on rotation or something? I haven't seen any news about them not being available any more, unless I missed that in a larger announcement or something?

[Kallas]

It's more likely just their current stock issues. Leviathan caused some major backlog problems, and now they're also shifting their warehouse to a new location which they've said is going to cause some disruption.

 

With GW, never expect a positive resolution when it comes to things appearing sooner - always expect it later than they say and you'll never be disappointed. Hell, people have been hypothesising things like new Aspects for many years and they rarely ever materialise 

[TheMawr]

While its true that eldar most of all need plastic updates for all their finecast models ( and while usually named characters have a lower priority imho, in eldar case they are often the only leader types in their role) this also makes for rather boring wishlists ;) so.. ignoring those in no particular order:

 

Exodite dragonriders 

This imho has as much priority as finecast... as it at long last completes the 2nd edition roster.

Personally hoping for rather feline looking steeds, a hybrid of lumineth kangaroos and the stormcast lizard cats. And a seperate leader ( dual ?)kit on a different "dragon" 

 

Stellarch ( corsair prince)

With a big panther/gyrinx pet ( think the creature from watchmen or coeurl from final fantasy) and/or a small exodite beast on shoulder ( pirate thing)

 

Farseer

Yes the last one is quite new.. but i really think it needs a glow up so when lining up warlocks spiritseers and farseers its clear who is the "boss"

Also giving it equipment options. ( voiddreamer alt built even ?)

 

Shrine warlock

More aspectish looking ( solo ) warlock that leads (some) aspect warriors. Could be a dualkit with:

 

Ynnarch/Mortarch 

Some sort of ynnari warrior psyker that "turns a unit it leads into ynnari" ( I think ynnari works better akin to beast snaggas rather than a faction or detachment etc) focused on aspect warriors.

 

[Doctor Perils]

Before a new Farseer I'd rather some new kinds of characters, like a plastic bonesinger, or lone exarchs (lost on the path of the warrior but without leading their own shrine, filling the lieutenant style role); Perhaps some kind of craftworlder assassin character; A poet-herald to galvanise morale, and show different parts of the eldar paths that are less military-focused...

 

I also think its time Saim-Hann and Biel-Tan received named character models, even in the Detachment system might be a departure from subfaction focuses

[Bouargh]

As far as I am concern I have very limited wishes, or let´s call them "reasonable" ones. I simply wish some update for the models still in Resin or in the loop hole of range rotation. Keep on redesigning the Aspect warriors and Phoenix lords that are for too long in Finecast. I have a special feeling toward Scorpions and Warp Spiders (these ones could even receive a Phoenix Lord maybe...)

 

Then if I can dare a wish, I would like an additionnal unit for Harlies, such as Mimes, to get a black Ops/Scouting oriented squad, and a High Avatar.

 

After that may be a resculpt of the Vyper and/or a resurrected Wild Rider Chieftain, perdon, Autarch on Motojet. Afterall, this is a wish list. 

Edited July 25, 2023 by Bouargh
tipos and spelling

[Paladin777]

Considering I just ebayed a bunch of metal spiders, scorpions, and some dragons earlier this year, I'd like to see hawks more than anything else! 
 

some of the Phoenix lords would be nice too. 

Edited July 23, 2023 by Paladin777

[sarabando]

plastic spiders and their phoenix would be bae

[ThePenitentOne]

If I was GW, I'd do the scorpions KT and Karandras as suggested, but I'd also do Asurmen, because the unit he works with is already in plastic.

 

I would love a generic Corsair HQ, but with the looseness of 10th, it isn't really necessary.

 

I'd love to see a big DE release- grotesques, beasts and the court at least. But that's another thread I guess.

[WrathOfTheLion]

I'd love to see the Wave Serpent redone with modern tooling. It doesn't need to look too different, but man that kit is annoying to build.

[TheMawr]

16 hours ago, ThePenitentOne said:

If I was GW, I'd do the scorpions KT and Karandras as suggested, but I'd also do Asurmen, because the unit he works with is already in plastic.

 

I would love a generic Corsair HQ, but with the looseness of 10th, it isn't really necessary.

 

I'd love to see a big DE release- grotesques, beasts and the court at least. But that's another thread I guess.

 

Also another forum ;) 

And while its true 10th is very loose.. it doesnt change eldar are heavily lacking generic leader options.

 

Though i guess in the first place that could have been solved if autarchs could have joined/synergise with more units.  

[Karhedron]

The Autarch was always supposed to be the all-round military leader for the Eldar. The had walked multiple Aspect paths so joining Aspect Warrior squads made sense in the fluff. Now apparently they can only join Guardians. 

 

I think I am currently favouring the Wayleaper Autarch with Lone Operative to hide out and generate CPs.

[Kallas]

16 hours ago, Karhedron said:

I think I am currently favouring the Wayleaper Autarch with Lone Operative to hide out and generate CPs.

Only played 2 1000pt games with Eldar so far (and GW have kicked my enthusiasm for 10th, which was already low, in the crotch, so dunno how many more will be played anyway) - the Wayleaper with Dragon Fusion Gun was solid:

1. vs Guard, with 2 Russes (1 Commander); early on, Autarch sat back on an objective using Lone Operative and just gaining CP. When one Russ came into the midfield, they advanced up to get in Melta range (and then they rolled a 6 to save so... ). The following turn, after a Corsair Blaster did 5 damage, they got a wound through on the Russ and used a Fate Dice (4) to push through the remaining wounds (and it then promptly blew up to kill my Foot Farseer!)
   Overall was fine, for 85pts it was worth getting the extra CP and being a cheeky objective holder (once the midfield Russ was dead, he was still immune to the infantry squads further back). Offensively, they've not really got enough firepower to be significant except outside of specific circumstances - I don't think the Reaper Launcher spaffing off a couple of shots over the course of the game is worth it, I think they'll need to be leveraging their Star Glaive if you want them to actually do any model killing of note; and the DFG was pretty solid with Battle Host, Fate's Messenger and Fate Dice all working together, though this would likely be overshadowed by a Wraithguard/Spiritseer unit's need if you bring one - but it was fun to use it here.
2. vs Grey Knight (oops all Terminators) - nothing to be said about this game, it was over turn two, because my only decently fighty unit (Shining Spears, which are grossly overcosted) got slaughtered, and I managed to kill about 4 Terminators before 70% of my army was dead. It's not the place, but Eldar outside of the top-tier stuff feels pretty mediocre.

[Evil Eye]

Would definitely agree on plastic Aspects being a priority; I like those old sculpts but they're definitely showing their age and they're currently only available in Finecast. I'd say Swooping Hawks and Warp Spiders should be the priority as they're still 2E sculpts. Shadow Spectres would be nice to get in plastic too, as they were a cool design and it'd be a shame to lose them.

 

A new Falcon chassis would be cool, my personal preference would be for it to keep the basic visuals the same (they nailed the actual design of the vehicle the first time around) and try and pack as many options onto the sprues as possible. Bearing in mind how empty the Falcon sprues are, I could imagine the Falcon, Fire Prism, Wave Serpent and Night Spinner all fitting into one kit and still having room for another build option; Warp Hunter maybe?

[Karhedron]

Actually the Swooping Hawks are 3rd or 4th edition IIRC. The original swooping hawks were more static.

 

Current models

 

Original models

[Evil Eye]

Huh, well fancy that! Didn't know that. I definitely prefer the poses on the current models, though I think I like the smaller guns and the "dotted" vents on the masks of the old ones better?

[Captain Coolpants]

I think we all want the aspects and their lords refreshed as the priority. Although scorpions are my favourite aspect, I think GW will do a better job with hawks because they can be so much more dynamic. Just imagine how cool a new Baharroth would be. They did a wicked job with Jain Zar, just imagine that model with big dramatic looking wings. I'm sure it'll be great. (I'll be so sad if they keep their gimpy little wings design) 

[TheMawr]

13 hours ago, Captain Coolpants said:

I think we all want the aspects and their lords refreshed as the priority. Although scorpions are my favourite aspect, I think GW will do a better job with hawks because they can be so much more dynamic. Just imagine how cool a new Baharroth would be. They did a wicked job with Jain Zar, just imagine that model with big dramatic looking wings. I'm sure it'll be great. (I'll be so sad if they keep their gimpy little wings design) 

 

 

Hmm.. we might be of a different opinion on that. While I do agree Baharroth works better with glorious (and motionable) wings considering he is a phoenix lord and not some lieutenant ( ignoring rules there) I do hope they can resist temptation and leave swooping hawk wings small/unbending, and obviously a decorative element to whatever the actual flight technology is.

[Kryczek]

A wraith construct armiger equivalent based on the bright stallion of yore.  Another wraith idea that I would like to see is a wraith construct vehicle that has a spot between a vyper and a support weapon that maybe uses vibro weapons.  I also would like a new wraith construct tank that can either be an uber d-weapon or a webway gate.

 

What I'll get?  Plastic Yriel.

 

For my BA I would like to see a jump primaris artificer armoured sanguinary guard replacement.  No upscaling like the terminators, proper fancy sanguinary guard.

My idea would be a 3 man box containing bits to make multiple different units and use the bits as upgrades like the old one.  I mean you could make an SG replacement with swords and axes then you could throw in some spears for an even fancier unit then throw in the parts for a sanguinary high priest (chalice arm) a champion (sheild arm) and a banner and you're golden. 

 

What I'll get?  Primaris Tycho.