Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I hope the T. Prime frag missile gets a small glow up. Either 3d6 shots with everything else staying the same or 2D6 shots and S5 or S6 OldWherewolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5983414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Bastone Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 You should have to use Insane Bravery before you roll for battleshock Battleshocked units should remain battleshocked until they pass a test Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5985532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldWherewolf Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 After watching the AoW stream this morning on the new Nid 'dex, we're going to need a bit more than a couple points adjustment. Guard is already at a 43% WR against Nids, and Nids just got better. It's not a major glow-up, but the holes and weaknesses of the nids got patched, and they got options to totally change the way the army plays. Don't get me wrong, the Nids look AMAZING, and I really love their detachments and rules. The problem is that we have ONE game plan right now (Sentinels & Arty), and 2-3 of the detachments just ignore us. The one that 'scares' me the most is the infiltrators. The infiltrators can be in our face turn 1 (with a post-roll-off redeploy!) With our limited mobility, it looks like it would be really easy to tie Guard up in our DZ until turn 3+, at which point we've surrendered board control, and a couple turns of scoring. The counter is our infantry, but even at 55-60 points their effectiveness is really questionable. The 2nd one is the horde of little bugs. With the ability to ignore [BLAST] (even if only on 1-2 units), our main firepower becomes moot, and Guard direct firepower is lacking. Funny enough, the one that I'm least concerned with is Crusher Stampede. We have [Lethal Hits] to deal with the big nasties, and our infantry can actually screen these models nicely (the one time they can do their job!). So this detachment isn't a counter to our playstyle. What saddens me the most is the potential foreshadowing of the Armored Company detachment rules... The final hurdle is that enough Nid units got a points decrease, as AoW said "just enough for an extra unit". Looking at @jarms48 points adjustments, again, I think those are on par with the Nids adjustments, just enough for 1-1.5 units. But I think with the new Nid detachments shoring up their weaknesses, we're still 1.5-2 steps down (potentially 3!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5985578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but commissar wargear options again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5985612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Not a wishlist as much as a prediction. GW has been making options in game match what there’s models for and what comes in the boxes. this tells me there will be a new kit for Catachans soonish, and the only options in it will be flamers, unless the new codex does a big 180 on that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5986098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthous Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: GW has been making options in game match what there’s models for and what comes in the boxes. this tells me there will be a new kit for Catachans soonish, and the only options in it will be flamers GW have certainly limited rules to match the models in the past, but have they ever limited an updated model kit to match previous rules? I'm thinking about the multipart Lieutenant in Strike Force Agastus as an example, but I could be wrong. If Jungle Fighters get an update similar in scope to the Shock Troops/Veteran Guardsmen kits, I'd personally be shocked if they had so few options. As you said, it's possible the codex will expand the wargear available to Catachans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5986104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Xanthous said: GW have certainly limited rules to match the models in the past, but have they ever limited an updated model kit to match previous rules? I'm thinking about the multipart Lieutenant in Strike Force Agastus as an example, but I could be wrong. If Jungle Fighters get an update similar in scope to the Shock Troops/Veteran Guardsmen kits, I'd personally be shocked if they had so few options. As you said, it's possible the codex will expand the wargear available to Catachans. It would be kinda hard to give Catachans more weapon options without making them flat out better than CSTs. SvenIronhand 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5986110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Not a wishlist as much as a prediction. GW has been making options in game match what there’s models for and what comes in the boxes. this tells me there will be a new kit for Catachans soonish, and the only options in it will be flamers, unless the new codex does a big 180 on that. The current kit only has double flamers. A kit would give them extra options and they could update the datasheet with the codex release. Xanthous 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5986113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, mertbl said: The current kit only has double flamers. A kit would give them extra options and they could update the datasheet with the codex release. New catachans would be great. Why not give them all the option to have flamers like the SM’s get. Edited September 5, 2023 by TCC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5986195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Find a way to give Krieg players slap on the wrist/jail time for using psykers/ogryns. It's like looking at a Black Templar army with Librarians. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5986421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Bastone Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 9:44 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: It would be kinda hard to give Catachans more weapon options without making them flat out better than CSTs. Is that even a concern for GW? DKoK are flat out better than CSTs already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5986435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 19 hours ago, TCC said: New catachans would be great. Why not give them all the option to have flamers like the SM’s get. Do you mean everyone in the squad gets a flamer? Highly doubtful we'll get that on a basic infantry unit. :P Maybe we'll get a SWS-kit at some point again though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5986461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 3 hours ago, sairence said: Do you mean everyone in the squad gets a flamer? Highly doubtful we'll get that on a basic infantry unit. :P Maybe we'll get a SWS-kit at some point again though. Being a wish list thread it would be nice. Also why cannot we have allow all weapons systems to be fitted to the hull and sponsons on the Russ, 3 lascanons would be nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5986502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldWherewolf Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) Hey, maybe giving Catachans hand flamers, like d3 shots at S3 AP0. Shame that's not on their sprue. But I do have a metric ton of hand flamers from 2nd edition in my bits box! Edited September 9, 2023 by Brother Tyler Profanity removed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379905-10th-edition-wishlisting/page/3/#findComment-5986623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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