Any ideas for an Ulthwé paint scheme with shifting colours?

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

As the title says. I am currently busy painting my 30K/40K Iron Hands although I would like to plan out my future painting projects. The shifting colours should be dark in nature and can include the classical Ulthwé colours such as black, bone white, red and yellow. Any ideas?

[Jukkiz]

you ever tried chameleon paints? They do give nice colour shift effect from different angles, but to get best effect need airbrush

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

2 hours ago, Jukkiz said:

you ever tried chameleon paints? They do give nice colour shift effect from different angles, but to get best effect need airbrush

No, so far I have only researched shifters from Vallejo on Youtube.

[Bryan Blaire]

Trying to figure out what you are seeking - are you looking for color recommendations of color shifting paints from various lines, painting tutorials, what the wider B&C painters think your Ulthwé force should look like, any combination of the above, or something else?

Edited September 12, 2023 by Bryan Blaire

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

4 hours ago, Bryan Blaire said:

Trying to figure out what you are seeking - are you looking for color recommendations of color shifting paints from various lines, painting tutorials, what the wider B&C painters think your Ulthwé force should look like, any combination of the above, or something else?

Just a recommendation for a shifter paint which would fit Ulthwé best.

[jaxom]

The Vallejo range is pretty limited as far as I know. The Magic Dust set has Gold/Yellow Burnt Orange which would work well for the helmets. Galaxy Dust has Turquise/Violet for the body, but it wouldn't be my preferred color.

 

Green Stuff World has their Chameleon line. It's bigger and you can grab individual colors. From there, I'd recommend Darth Blue for the body and Burning Gold for the helmet. Or, you could use their Holographic Paint over bone to give that shift sheen.

[Bryan Blaire]

1 hour ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

Just a recommendation for a shifter paint which would fit Ulthwé best.

TurboDork has their “Black Ice” black metallic that you could use for any Ulthwé black you wanted.  You could use the “Ground is Lava” for any red to yellow gold - orange shifting you might want.  Their “Radium” is a yellow to green shift, while their “Laserface” is purple to red to green with a yellow edge.  “Mother Lode” is a “white” color shift paint that gives you a mother-of-pearl iridescent shift.

 

Whether they fit best would really be an evaluation you have to make, but hope those can help!

Edited September 12, 2023 by Bryan Blaire

[MithrilForge]

I saw a Harlequin force done with inks over a metallic base... Ah here.... 

 

 

++EDIT++ The link to the Video where he actually shows you how to do it - 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/plo0v3/super_quick_tutorial_on_super_quick_harlequin/

Cheers, M 

Edited September 13, 2023 by Mumeishi

[OttoVonAwesome]

I wouldn't colour shift Ulthwé myself. They wear black beacuase they are serious and morose not oily or fantastic and colour shift is hard to pull off at this scale. It looks good on a car but it's easy to make it look cheap on a scale model.

[Dr. Clock]

6 hours ago, OttoVonAwesome said:

serious and morose not oily or fantastic

If you ask me, eldar can't help but be oily and fantastic. For like... ten years(?) I resisted putting any metal finish on eldar because in my head everything was supposed to be wraithbone. Then Drukhari relaunch happened, and one day I heard the Jes Goodwin comment that the chainmail on the original metals was there as a direct reference to DnD/fantasy elves: silver and chainmail. When I slid into doing Corsairs, I fully set aside my older biases and now happily add a tonne of gold to them, because Space Pirates, obviously.

 

I do Ulthwé in the old non-shifting way, but I'll say that one thing I've found to be cool (and easy!) for the general scheme is using blue-white for the gems on top of the black and yellow. Basically more opaque 'white pearls' than shiny chromatic gems. Similarly, a white/blue silver is my go-to metallic accent to get maximum contrast between textures. 

 

Looking through the turbo dork stuff, I think if you want it to 'read' as Ulthwé, you'd be best with a non-shifting 'black', and use main shift paint on the helmets and select armor pieces. Then you can detail the gems and metals a shifting pearl and silver, and it should look pretty striking!

 

Ulthwé will always be black and yellow to me, not black and bone... So that's my vote in any case. Wish I could be more help.

 

Cheers,

 

The Good Doctor.

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

On 9/13/2023 at 8:10 AM, Mumeishi said:

I saw a Harlequin force done with inks over a metallic base... Ah here.... 

 

 

++EDIT++ The link to the Video where he actually shows you how to do it - 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/plo0v3/super_quick_tutorial_on_super_quick_harlequin/

Cheers, M 

That looks fantastic.

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

Yesterday my latest hobby order arrived including Vallejo Green Silver Blue. I bought this colour for the few Primaris as a painting project which were present in the three different starter boxes for 9th 40K. I don´t own an airbrush and proceeded to test this shifting colour on a couple of free Sigmarines which a GW manager pressed into my hands in the vain hope that I start a Siggi army. Anyway, applying the shifter paint with a brush will show brush strokes. Normally this is never an issue as I drybrush in multiple layers with shades so brush strokes are never thing but this isn´t an option here as shifter paints don´t work with any colours at all with the exception of a required basecoat.

 

In addition the mini appears to be 99% as metallic green and the blue only shows, if you know what you are looking for. It seems that if you want to fully enjoy the shifting technique you have to invest into an airbrush. Have to mull this over until I decide it´s time for a new order.

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

On 9/13/2023 at 10:23 AM, OttoVonAwesome said:

I wouldn't colour shift Ulthwé myself. They wear black beacuase they are serious and morose not oily or fantastic and colour shift is hard to pull off at this scale. It looks good on a car but it's easy to make it look cheap on a scale model.

Ulthwé is a militaristic craftworld with an abundance of well-trained guardians. Therefore black shows perfectly it´s grim determination.  It also is known for it´s large number of psykers. Space magic/psychic power or mysticism as a whole is often visualized in icons with a specific colour (often purple or blue). So adding a specific colour to the otherwise dour appearance accentuates the psychic prowess part of the craftworld in a good way.

[Evil Eye]

Turbodork's "Dark Net" would be another good one, as it's a metallic black with an oily green shift.

[Magos Takatus]

https://www.scalemodeller.com.au/products/colour-shift-extreme-eclipse-red-orange-black-30ml

 

https://exit23.games/collections/turbo-dork-paints/products/supermassive?variant=39601294737505

 

The top paint is from Australia, is expensive, and apparently requires it's own thinner. The Turbo Dork one is the closest I've found to it so far.

 

Over a black undercoat Supermassive is very dark with a slight reddish orange tint. I might find an old jetbike and test it out. I already have a scheme for my Ulthwé force but if I'm pleased with it perhaps my Farseers could end up painted with this in places.