10th edition Release predictions.

[jimbo1701]

Hi all. I love a bit of speculation and so based on the patterns we have observed in the previous edition I’ve classified into minor and major updates. We know that gw are putting out at least one release for each faction as per their statement.  Minor = <5 releases. Major = >5 releases. I’ve also included a 3rd option for new faction and the sole criteria for this is did the army have its own codex prior to this. Please correct me if I’ve misckassofied any. This is just for 40K but obviously kill team and heresy will overlap. 

 

Minor:

Custodes

Admech 

grey knights

Gsc 

Tyranids

Drukhari

Knights (both)

Death guard 

Thousand sons 

Chaos daemons 

Tau 

 

Major:

Sisters

Marines 

Necrons 

Eldar

Guard

Csm 

Orks 

 

New faction:

Votann

Templars

World eaters 

 

Based on this and patterns of release I.e which armies had a major update in the previous editions / need significant updates / speculated new factions I’ve compiled the following predictions for 10th.  

 

Minor:

Necrons 

Gsc 

Orks

Eldar

guard

Admech

Sisters

Knights (both)

Thousand sons 

Death guard 

world eaters 

Csm

Templars 

Grey knights

 

Major:

Marines 

Tyranids

Drukhari 

Tau 

Votann 

Custodes*

Chaos daemons 

 

New faction:

Dark angels 

Blood angels 

Space wolves

Emperors children 

 

*to tie in with heresy 

 

While some of these are likely to get a significant expansion (world eaters / grey knights) I’m expecting this will be 5 or less kits, whereas the other divergent marines chapters / emperors children are likely to be 5 or more. There is of course room for a whole new faction or two in there such as exodites / dark  mechanicum  etc so fingers crossed for those. Thoughts? 

[Karhedron]

My prediction is that Eldar will be a minor release with another Aspect and their corresponding Phoenix Lord moving to plastic. 

[Craig]

My prediction (based on nothing) is that the 11th edition starters will be marines vs daemons. So I imagine that daemons won't get much this edition but will get plenty at the very start of 11th. I also think grey knights will get their refresh at the end of 10th so GW can hype the rivalry between them and the daemons.

[Doghouse]

I think we will see a late edition return of Russ in an Arks of Omens style release. It'll be him or Dorn I think but will set the pattern for a Primarch release once every three years with each edition end with traitor Primarchs scattered in between.

[ZeroWolf]

Valrak has shared the rumour that we're supposed to be getting a new plastic Imotekh the storm lord, and honestly, I'd be happy if the Necron release was just him, Trazyn the Infinite, and Orikan the Diviner in plastic. A bonus would be if they resurrected the Pariah unit but they probably won't do that.

[jimbo1701]

38 minutes ago, Craig said:

My prediction (based on nothing) is that the 11th edition starters will be marines vs daemons. So I imagine that daemons won't get much this edition but will get plenty at the very start of 11th. I also think grey knights will get their refresh at the end of 10th so GW can hype the rivalry between them and the daemons.

It’s always an interesting  one to debate isn’t it. Who will be the factions marines get pitted against in the starter set? Daemons are a fair shout as all the basic troops, while still good sculpts, are showing their age. Plus it’s been xenos in 9/10th. They have used a new faction once in the past (3rd Ed dark eldar) but never since unless you count the revamped death guard. The past 2 editions it’s been a great opportunity to revamp and expand an out of date range. Emperors children or exodites also possibilities if they don’t feature in 10th. 
 

Marines themselves are a source of speculation thesedays. It seems evident that they will continue with space marines, specifically ultramarines for the foreseeable future, though with the primaris range being so comprehensive now it’s difficult to envisage what the starter contents could be. Unless they primaris the tactical and devastator squads…..

[Karhedron]

7 minutes ago, jimbo1701 said:

Marines themselves are a source of speculation thesedays. It seems evident that they will continue with space marines, specifically ultramarines for the foreseeable future, though with the primaris range being so comprehensive now it’s difficult to envisage what the starter contents could be. Unless they primaris the tactical and devastator squads…..

 

Agreed. I guess that 11th will see the final phasing out of the remaining Firstborn units (and presumably their replacement with Primaris versions). To be fair though, Intercessors largely replace Tactical squads and Devastators are replaced by the combination of Hellblasters, Eradicators, Las Fusil Eliminators and Desloators. That covers the mix of Plasma, Melta, Las and Missiles. Only Grav is missing. Arguably most people don't mix their Devastator squads anyway and simply favour the optimal loadout.

[Special Officer Doofy]

I doubt they are going to redo chaos daemon troop units this soon. They could use a few new units more than redoing already fine plastic sculpts.

[Kallas]

1 hour ago, ZeroWolf said:

A bonus would be if they resurrected the Pariah unit but they probably won't do that.

I loved the Pariahs, they were great, but they've basically been replaced with Lychguard with Warscythes. Not the same lore and would definitely love to see the Pariah stuff come back into play.

 

Honestly, more stuff that actually makes [Psychic] actually interact with things beyond it being a pure penalty would be nice, but that's getting a bit out of the scope of the topic.

 

2 hours ago, Karhedron said:

My prediction is that Eldar will be a minor release with another Aspect and their corresponding Phoenix Lord moving to plastic. 

I'd agree with that prediction. I hope they do more than that, something like two or three Aspects plus Phoenix Lords, but I doubt they will. Gotta keep the drip feed going.

[Jalleo]

Due to the current age of the 40k land raider and rhino sprues and that 30k versions have been released I suspect a new chaos version may appear. There was something about Deathguard infecting a whole bunch of predators in a campaign book last edition.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Jalleo
Grammar messup on the phone.

[ZeroWolf]

I think 11th will be sm vs orks myself but that's still 2 years out (unless someone at the top of GW shows some foresight and relaxes the 3 year cycle) till we start hearing things.

 

What lies in store for SM is an interesting one as I don't think It's range could ever expand forever. However, I do think they'll start branching out more chapter specific units depending on which primarch they return. Let's not beat around the Bush, they will return everyone they can because it prints money for them, and I'd be surprised if they didn't make a new version of Robote at some point.

[WrathOfTheLion]

They did two aspects in the last release, Dark Reapers and Shining Spears, so they may do two again this time.

[Craig]

I think 11th could lean in to space wolves and the return of Russ. They haven't had any love in a long time so they are due. The launch/starter set could include axe and shield assault marines, primaris longfang/devastators, lightning claw veterans. There are plenty of ways they can go if they want to.

[ZeroWolf]

32 minutes ago, Craig said:

I think 11th could lean in to space wolves and the return of Russ. They haven't had any love in a long time so they are due. The launch/starter set could include axe and shield assault marines, primaris longfang/devastators, lightning claw veterans. There are plenty of ways they can go if they want to.

Problem is the models would be too space wolfy, hence why we get generics in the starters as any space marine could use them.  Ultramarines will most likely be the poster boys for a while longer yet. 

[Ahzek451]

More hoping that T.sons get a second wave this edition, maybe coinciding with Russ if he gets a release at the end of this edition or start of 11th. Either way, I don't think its out of the realm of possibility since GW's has been actively adding new lore giving the impression that they are building up their forces(moved Sortiarius next to prospero, calling new psykers, carved out a small empire, and turned Prospero into a military base). 

Not to mention that they have one of the least amount of unique choices (not counting borrowed daemon engines from CSM, or AoS). They were the first "god legion" to get a release and much like world eaters, could use some codex filling. To a lesser extent death guard too, but as a poster 8th army they somehow got a few more toys. Folks have been clamoring since their release for things like psychic dreads too, and historically speaking, what customers want in models, GW tends to listen. 

 

[Craig]

4 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

Problem is the models would be too space wolfy, hence why we get generics in the starters as any space marine could use them.  Ultramarines will most likely be the poster boys for a while longer yet. 

I'm not saying go full dog boy with pelts and teeth and beards and stuff, but generic sm units that would fit very well with the wolves mo. Infernus marines are a good example of a generic sm unit that would fit a specific chapter's mo (salamanders).

[ZeroWolf]

3 hours ago, Ahzek451 said:

More hoping that T.sons get a second wave this edition, maybe coinciding with Russ if he gets a release at the end of this edition or start of 11th. Either way, I don't think its out of the realm of possibility since GW's has been actively adding new lore giving the impression that they are building up their forces(moved Sortiarius next to prospero, calling new psykers, carved out a small empire, and turned Prospero into a military base). 

Not to mention that they have one of the least amount of unique choices (not counting borrowed daemon engines from CSM, or AoS). They were the first "god legion" to get a release and much like world eaters, could use some codex filling. To a lesser extent death guard too, but as a poster 8th army they somehow got a few more toys. Folks have been clamoring since their release for things like psychic dreads too, and historically speaking, what customers want in models, GW tends to listen. 

 

They might get more this time as otherwise it would just be another hero type unit like they got last time. Problem becomes that they just add more Tzzangor units  I think Dark Eldar might get stuff to replace all the units that they lost

[CL_Mission]

Although I would love to see a major release for Drukhari this edition I'm going to make a crazy speculation that they will return as a foe for space marines in the 11th edition box set. In 9th and 10th the opposing forces saw a significant brush ups to their basic troops and Kabalite Warriors and Wyches are now some of the oldest basic troops sets in 40k. I still think the 5th edition range refresh for Drukhari (then Dark Eldar) is one of the best and the designs still hold up really well but I'm sure improvements could be made especially looking at the new kits for Guardians and Corsairs. I feel like Wyches haven't held up as well as Kabalites and I think they would actually benefit from the modern torso and legs in one approach GW goes with these days. I cold easily see a starter set containing  20 Wyches for Marines to saw threw with a new Beastmaster and friends and a couple of new units.

 

For the same reasons I could see 11th being Daemons, specifically Bloodletters. I mean look at these sprues, look at all that negative space! Alternatively is will be something new, EC or Dark Mech.

[Helias_Tancred]

When to comes to a new edition box it will always be Loyalist marines versus [insert faction here], and those loyalist marines will always be Ultramarines. I'll eat a shoe if it was any chapter, especially Grey Knights, other than Ultramarines!

 

 

[ZeroWolf]

Watch GW throw a curve and have it be SM vs ... a new Tau subfaction!

[Craig]

18 minutes ago, Eilio Tiberius said:

When to comes to a new edition box it will always be Loyalist marines versus [insert faction here], and those loyalist marines will always be Ultramarines. I'll eat a shoe if it was any chapter, especially Grey Knights, other than Ultramarines!

 

 

Apart from Dark Vengeance, which was Dark Angels. Not just green coloured marines on the box art but sculpted iconography on each miniature. Not saying that I think sculpted iconography is going to happen again but just to point out Ultramarines have taken a break in the past.

[Helias_Tancred]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. 

[ThePenitentOne]

I think Drukhari are getting a big release- the restructuring of beast packs is screaming for a box of plastic that includes 1 Beast Master; 1 Clawed Fiend; 2 Khymerae and 3 Razorwing Flocks.

 

Similarly, Court of the Archon is begging for a box that incudes 1 Lhamaean, 1 Medusa, 1 Ur-Ghul and 1 Sslyth (and maybe an alternate Archon to complete the box).

 

We really need Grotesques- hopefully 3 to a box like Ogryns.

 

And then of course Madrakes, and hopefully a character. Maybe a character Scourge as well.

 

I'd like Wracks done up as a ten man Kill Team; no need to stop producing the five box, but it would be nice to have them in boxes of ten. And they could get away with a KT upgrade sprue for wyches too.

 

The Coup de Grace, of course would be Asdrubael Vect and the Dias as a centerpiece. 

Edited September 17, 2023 by ThePenitentOne

[Ulfast]

totally agree that both World eaters and Thousand sons needs more filling out (together with Votann) but most I would like drukhari to get a big release as they ahve so many finecast models and is in need of something new. 

[Azaiel]

For Deathwatch I believe a Primaris Watchmaster would be a likely release.