10th edition Release predictions.

[Jscarlos18]

I hope the livestream later this month confirms the rumour that Mandrakes are getting a refresh.

 

Nice to see Striking Scorpions being revealed during Warhammer Day, with Imotekh finally being updated from his resin model.

 

The flow is slow but steady, so hopefully from here to 11th or 12th edition all the factions finally get rid of kits that are as old as 4th edition.

Edited November 9, 2023 by Jscarlos18

[Emperor Ming]

Wish they would hurry up with releases, it feels like its become snails pace

 

Anyone who's last this ed for a codex, its gona be 11th at this rate

[Jscarlos18]

Well, we can finally cross of the list of missing updates Orikan and Imotekh.

 

Knowing the rumours and seeing the NL Kill Team, it seems Mandrakes are getting a refresh. There's still much of the Drukhari that need updates though.

 

Looking at the 40k roadmap, hopefully the factions there get a combination of updated and new units:

 

• Dark Angels have Asmodai and the Deathwing Knights, and a big range refresh is expected since Lion is now in the setting.
• Orks need updated Stormobyz and the rest of their characters updated.
• Custodes need their FW units.
• T'au looks like will get new Kroots by the various Rumour Engines.
• Chaos Space Marines need bikes and other upgrade kits for the rest of non-mono-God legions since at least NL are getting theirs.
• Don't know what could the GSC and Adepta Sororitas need.
• The redacted faction could be one already there or EC. Depends if they're missing from CSM.

[ThePenitentOne]

5 hours ago, Jscarlos18 said:

 

• Don't know what could the GSC and Adepta Sororitas need.

 

I think Sisters might get the repressor- we have firing deck rules now, so they wouldn't be the only ones to have this kind of vehicle.

 

Sisters should also get plastic DCA's and Crusaders and maybe restore some of the old characters- Jacobus, Kyrinov, Praxedes.

[Jscarlos18]

So the rumours are getting more real with each new reveal from GW.

 

To recap:

• Orks are having a new mek and looks very promissing.
• Custodes will get a non-named character apparently per Valrak rumours. The one on the 2024 teaser it seems, with a melta lance (don't know if they have a name).
• Now with the Tau ethereal confirmed but sadly locked behind the anniversary event and the video teaser of the kroot on the non-kroot mount, it seems Tau will finally get a refresh for part of the auxiliaries. If only Vespid also got the glow-up, hopefully the rumour of them getting a Kill Team release is true.
• Chaos Space Marines seems that they will get some units that wield a thunder hammer like the old character from Blackstone Fortress based on the artwork from the DA boxset.

 

What do you all think will be added to Sisters of Battle and Genestealer Cults that they could possibly need?

Edited January 3 by Jscarlos18

[MoriyaSchism]

On 11/20/2023 at 9:49 PM, ThePenitentOne said:

 

I think Sisters might get the repressor- we have firing deck rules now, so they wouldn't be the only ones to have this kind of vehicle.

 

Sisters should also get plastic DCA's and Crusaders and maybe restore some of the old characters- Jacobus, Kyrinov, Praxedes.

I would love to see the Repressor return along with some of the FW versions of the Sororitas vehicles. The Orders Militant can't all be rich, some plain vehicles would add a bit of flavour to the faction and some other Imperial forces that have access to such vehicles.

[Sergeant Centurion]

As others say, i think a repressor tank can be a cool add to the sister range.
For the rest i hope they add the new aspect warriors for the eldar, new necron destroyers and men at arms for the knights.

I wish for a new legion of the damned and plastic vostroyans.

Probably we get intercessors with long barrels storm bolters xd.

[WrathOfTheLion]

For Sisters, I've always wanted a sword & board infantry unit, like is leading the Triumph of St Catherine. Will it be good? Probably not. Will it be cool? Hell yes.

[Karhedron]

16 hours ago, Sergeant Centurion said:

men at arms for the knights.

 

Slightly OT but I used Skitarri models and Agents of the Imperium rules (usually Voidsmen) to give my Knights some infantry support. It is surprising how many people ignore the little guys quietly scoring points when the big stompy death robots are charging towards them. 

[Closet Skeleton]

18 hours ago, WrathOfTheLion said:

For Sisters, I've always wanted a sword & board infantry unit, like is leading the Triumph of St Catherine. Will it be good? Probably not. Will it be cool? Hell yes.

Would be redundant and less thematic than Celestian Sacrosancts.

 

Nothing to stop you converting Sacrosancts to have swords for your order.

[Jscarlos18]

Kroot confirmed is awesome. Glad at least one of the Tau auxiliary races is being expanded/updated. Hopefully Vespids are eventually updated and other races from the Empire join the tabletop someday.

 

The Mandrakes are really nice, Kheradruakh would be awesome to see in the tabletop too with the modern quality with which GW has been doing more recent named characters.

Edited January 19 by Jscarlos18

[ZeroWolf]

On 1/19/2024 at 8:09 PM, Jscarlos18 said:

Kroot confirmed is awesome. Glad at least one of the Tau auxiliary races is being expanded/updated. Hopefully Vespids are eventually updated and other races from the Empire join the tabletop someday.

 

The Mandrakes are really nice, Kheradruakh would be awesome to see in the tabletop too with the modern quality with which GW has been doing more recent named characters.

We still have Vespid rumours for kill team (v Swooping Hawks) so there's still a chance.

[TheMawr]

16 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

We still have Vespid rumours for kill team (v Swooping Hawks) so there's still a chance.

 

At one side I have little reason to doubt that particular source of valrak, his kill team guy is very spot on.  On the other hand the more concrete the details are the closer it is to release.

In other words, the (new) Votann hernkyn pioneers vs GSC Broodbrothers ( upgrade sprue for cadians ) is more concrete, its a clear versus box with clearer details on each side... and I think that one might be next.

 

Then I think the last one is Vespids vs Scions with an upgrade sprue ( my own speculation : Inquisitional scions upgrade sprue with the simpler crossboltgun and the servoskull )

Altough it would make more sense if that particular matchup would be the spring kill team box and LoV vs GSC coming in the summer KT box ( GSC is summer, Tau is spring.. and because of the kroot box the first release might be late winter/early spring.)  though that would leave questions as to why the swooping hawks* came from his KT source.

 

It could also still be that Hawks and Vespids are not related to this season, and a little further off.. or that they are not KT releases at all.

For comparison, Striking scorpions vs Scouts KT rumor was around february last year, its predates the Ashes of Faith with dark commune and beastmen coming to kill team rumors. The details of Gallowfall ( Beastmen vs votan upgrade sprue.) only came days/weeks before their announcement ( adepticon in march ) with ashes of faith announced a month later.

However the vespids/swooping hawks one is also a couple of months old now. ( predating the nightmare rumors.)

 

Either way.. we should find out soon, Tau codex is now a stonethrow away and Eldar are supposed to be coming summer ( though its one of the two rumors valraks is currently backpedalling from, the other being chaos bikers coming with their codex.)

 

side note : its funny Valrak called the votan vs gsc killteam a xenos box... considering both sides have a human root (and one side is an imperium kit) ;)

 

 

 

As for some updated speculation from a couple of months ago with all the new info in:

-----

Genestealer cults codex

I think Brood brothers will be an in-codex unit again, together with a selection of stuff they can take like it was before. It really should be.

New miniatures ( beyond the killteam ) :

While this is likely a single character release the one thing GSC really dont need is new characters..

I could still see them doing a seperate primus  and/or  a seperate Patriarch, the latter maybe even bigger and more centrepiece like.

 

However maybe I/we are also too stuck in a single release = a single character, and maybe GW will change that. Though I must admit despite how little they have I really wouldnt know what they would get. I think they can use some mechanised thing, like a mining/construction sentinel or something ( like in Aliens )

 

 

Sisters of Battle codex

GW recently purged some very iconic units that had no current models ( sanctioned psykers, servitors, necron lord, quite some named necrons, some spacemarines stuff.) and I dont think the 4 ecclesiarchy units are safe from that. Unless they get new miniatures with the codex I think the deathcult assassins are almost definitely out, with the crusaders also having a good chance of dropping.

I could see a seperate reframed release of the escalation crusader like they did with the psyker and the techpriest.. but also having an evolved role as a character, not a unit. Maybe a lone operative.

I doubt SoB will be completely priestless, even if there is no new miniature there. ( Im not sure they will release the BSF priest seperate )

I still do think there is a good chance of a priest being the solo release, or maybe a kit like the warlocks ; a kit that makes 2 missionaries, 2 preachers or 1 of each.

Other thing I can think of is a Wings/Jump pack canoness.  ( in addition to the repressor sob fans want, and I think had been asking for since their first plastics.)

 

[Ming the Merciless]

On 1/19/2024 at 8:09 PM, Jscarlos18 said:

The Mandrakes are really nice, Kheradruakh would be awesome to see in the tabletop too with the modern quality with which GW has been doing more recent named characters.

 

Would love to see The Decapitator reappear for 40k. I feel we'll likely just get plastic Urien Rakarth and Grotesques when the codex eventually drops.

[ZeroWolf]

5 hours ago, TheMawr said:

 

At one side I have little reason to doubt that particular source of valrak, his kill team guy is very spot on.  On the other hand the more concrete the details are the closer it is to release.

In other words, the (new) Votann hernkyn pioneers vs GSC Broodbrothers ( upgrade sprue for cadians ) is more concrete, its a clear versus box with clearer details on each side... and I think that one might be next.

 

Then I think the last one is Vespids vs Scions with an upgrade sprue ( my own speculation : Inquisitional scions upgrade sprue with the simpler crossboltgun and the servoskull )

Altough it would make more sense if that particular matchup would be the spring kill team box and LoV vs GSC coming in the summer KT box ( GSC is summer, Tau is spring.. and because of the kroot box the first release might be late winter/early spring.)  though that would leave questions as to why the swooping hawks* came from his KT source.

 

It could also still be that Hawks and Vespids are not related to this season, and a little further off.. or that they are not KT releases at all.

For comparison, Striking scorpions vs Scouts KT rumor was around february last year, its predates the Ashes of Faith with dark commune and beastmen coming to kill team rumors. The details of Gallowfall ( Beastmen vs votan upgrade sprue.) only came days/weeks before their announcement ( adepticon in march ) with ashes of faith announced a month later.

However the vespids/swooping hawks one is also a couple of months old now. ( predating the nightmare rumors.)

 

Either way.. we should find out soon, Tau codex is now a stonethrow away and Eldar are supposed to be coming summer ( though its one of the two rumors valraks is currently backpedalling from, the other being chaos bikers coming with their codex.)

 

side note : its funny Valrak called the votan vs gsc killteam a xenos box... considering both sides have a human root (and one side is an imperium kit) ;)

 

 

 

As for some updated speculation from a couple of months ago with all the new info in:

-----

Genestealer cults codex

I think Brood brothers will be an in-codex unit again, together with a selection of stuff they can take like it was before. It really should be.

New miniatures ( beyond the killteam ) :

While this is likely a single character release the one thing GSC really dont need is new characters..

I could still see them doing a seperate primus  and/or  a seperate Patriarch, the latter maybe even bigger and more centrepiece like.

 

However maybe I/we are also too stuck in a single release = a single character, and maybe GW will change that. Though I must admit despite how little they have I really wouldnt know what they would get. I think they can use some mechanised thing, like a mining/construction sentinel or something ( like in Aliens )

 

 

Sisters of Battle codex

GW recently purged some very iconic units that had no current models ( sanctioned psykers, servitors, necron lord, quite some named necrons, some spacemarines stuff.) and I dont think the 4 ecclesiarchy units are safe from that. Unless they get new miniatures with the codex I think the deathcult assassins are almost definitely out, with the crusaders also having a good chance of dropping.

I could see a seperate reframed release of the escalation crusader like they did with the psyker and the techpriest.. but also having an evolved role as a character, not a unit. Maybe a lone operative.

I doubt SoB will be completely priestless, even if there is no new miniature there. ( Im not sure they will release the BSF priest seperate )

I still do think there is a good chance of a priest being the solo release, or maybe a kit like the warlocks ; a kit that makes 2 missionaries, 2 preachers or 1 of each.

Other thing I can think of is a Wings/Jump pack canoness.  ( in addition to the repressor sob fans want, and I think had been asking for since their first plastics.)

 

Regarding KT boxes, swooping hawks v vespid could very well be a release like Ashes of Faith aka something outside of the season box model.

 

As for the other speculations probably best to just work with the idea that "everyone gets 1" then be surprised when an army gets more kits.

 

Personally, it's looking like Tau will be the biggest winners having multiple new kits. Plus we have that redacted codex to look forward to, which with rumours pointing to a potential agents of the Imperium release, they could get a couple new things.

[ThePenitentOne]

17 hours ago, TheMawr said:

 

Sisters of Battle codex

GW recently purged some very iconic units that had no current models ( sanctioned psykers, servitors, necron lord, quite some named necrons, some spacemarines stuff.) and I dont think the 4 ecclesiarchy units are safe from that. Unless they get new miniatures with the codex I think the deathcult assassins are almost definitely out, with the crusaders also having a good chance of dropping.

I could see a seperate reframed release of the escalation crusader like they did with the psyker and the techpriest.. but also having an evolved role as a character, not a unit. Maybe a lone operative.

I doubt SoB will be completely priestless, even if there is no new miniature there. ( Im not sure they will release the BSF priest seperate )

I still do think there is a good chance of a priest being the solo release, or maybe a kit like the warlocks ; a kit that makes 2 missionaries, 2 preachers or 1 of each.

Other thing I can think of is a Wings/Jump pack canoness.  ( in addition to the repressor sob fans want, and I think had been asking for since their first plastics.)

 

 

There are 5 Ecclesiarchy units, not 4: Missionary, Preacher, Arco, Death Cult, Crusader.

 

We already have plastic Arcos, so they aren't going anywhere. We've seen a plastic Crusader (Gotfrett de Montbard) and a plastic DA (Knosso Prond), and I think the existence of those models supports the belief that the missing Battle Conclave units are coming more than it supports the idea GW is getting rid of them.

[MegaVolt87]

Bored at work, did some quick maths on what I think a 30k plastic baneblade release would cost. Not OT I think because people want to use the 30k version of the Russ just announced for SA, assuming the same for a 30k baneblade in 40k useage. 

 

Using AUD, I compared the new HH LR, rhino and pread prices compared to their 40k versions. The median HH tax/ mark up price difference is 25 percent after removing OZ GST. A 40k baneblade is AUD$172 after removing OZ GST, so the top end price is potentially sitting at AUD$215 no GST, with OZ GST AUD$239 for Australian customers for a 30k baneblade. Working top down with these two numbers you can estimate ROW prices, discuss. 

 

Edit- bonus cost accounting production estimate (cooker edition) 

 

Assuming rumours are true that GW likes to have a 70 percent margin per item sale after tax, we can have a stab at individual unit manufacturing costs, using the above. 

 

40k baneblade- AUD$51.60 ($52) per unit

30k baneblade- AUD$64.50 ($65) per unit

 

Generally speaking, per unit price is technically everything from marketing, wages, production costs, materials etc to get the base unit cost. A 30k baneblade potentially costs 20 percent more to produce- or not, at this point I am reaching because of lack of hard information behind the corpo curtin. The 40k baneblade might be pretty close though! (copium)

Edited January 23 by MegaVolt87

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Some predictions:

 

Thousand Sons to get two Daemon Engines (dual build kit) and Psyker Dreadnought and unique Cultists.

World Eaters to get Cavalry (I don't know what they are called) and a character.

Death Guard to get a new Lord and that's it.

Emperors Children to be Fulgrim, new Lucius, new Noise Marines and that's it wilth other stuff held back for a second wave in 11th edition. 

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Another prediction: Vespids will get a new kit released as part of Kill Team.

[ZeroWolf]

18 hours ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

Another prediction: Vespids will get a new kit released as part of Kill Team.

That is what the current rumours are saying and have been for a few months so. Their opponents are supposedly swooping hawks.

[TheMawr]

2 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

That is what the current rumours are saying and have been for a few months so. Their opponents are supposedly swooping hawks.

 

Technically that is not entirely what the rumor was I believe, it was just that the same source from valrak had said both swooping hawks and vespids coming via kill team, but no details regarding matchups. However I havent watched livestreams last couple of months so details might have surfaced there ? In one of the last videos I had seen on that matter valrak said he would come back on it with more details ( the first video I think where he spoke about the scions upgrade, and the kill team of spacemarines who call everyone horus.)

Im one of those that theorised ( and still kind of do, though it is lowering ) that they might be a matchup in a (standalone) kill team product, and I think valrak had speculated about it too, but afaik its not the "official" rumor that they are matched up or even coming in the same season/time period, just that they both where coming for kill team.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

It would be cool to see new Swooping Hawks.

 

Maybe updated Vanguard Veterans will release as part of Kill Team too if they are having a focus on flying infantry.

 

Maybe Vanguard Veterans VS Ork Stormboyz?

[ZeroWolf]

3 hours ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

It would be cool to see new Swooping Hawks.

 

Maybe updated Vanguard Veterans will release as part of Kill Team too if they are having a focus on flying infantry.

 

Maybe Vanguard Veterans VS Ork Stormboyz?

Could be an interesting match up

[Marshal Mittens]

Space wolf and blood angel termies, special blood angel jump infantry. New sanguinorthat is primarch power level.

[Jscarlos18]

Interesting but not very surprising is that 10th edition releases has seen updates to resin units from most of the factions and also the addition of new sub-groups from some archetypes (mostly from the same groups that are being updated).

 

For example:

• Space Marines: Updated classic Terminator units with others miscelaneous new models per usual. Nothing suprising since they are the posterboys, but the Dreadnought gets the classic all shooting so they finally have the 3 types(Shooting/Meelee/Combined).
  • Dark Angels get Inner Circle Companions (Risen) and their Deathwing Terminators.
• Tyranids: The type of Lictors gets expanded with the Von Ryan's Leapers (mentioned in the lore of other editions, but without a model until now) and Neurolictor. Normal Lictor and Deathleaper get updated too. Screamer Killer also gets an individual model outside the Carnifex kit. There's also 2 new type of Gaunts so the horde part of the army gets more variety.
• Necrons: New Necron Overlord with special gear and updated Imotekh+Orikan. Suprised they have still not updated the classic Destroyer or Destroyer Lord. 9th edition saw the introduction of snake/tripod variants.
• AdMech: Sadly they got Stiltboy, but most fans are waiting for their range to get the weird stuff like 9th edition cover art or things from HH.
• T'au: The Kroot are getting specific subtypes for their Shapers for their different roles in lore, when previously it was 1 model of Shaper for everything be it fighting or selecting things to eat. Knarlocs get the Rampagers too as a subdivision to represent when they're young/teens.

Edited May 6 by Jscarlos18