Next Killteam Boxset Rumour

[Indy Techwisp]

44 minutes ago, Halandaar said:

Mandrakes makes it a pretty much instant buy for me, but very curious to see what the Night Lords team would look like. Upgrade sprue to the Legionaries kit would be odd as there is already a Legionaries team in KT, so you'd think it would have to be something else because I can't see them duplicating the same team just with a different sprue of cosmetic upgrades. Maybe Chosen? The big weapon variety on that kit would lend itself quite well to Kill Team.

 

It's Night Lords.

If any current CSM unit is getting a Night Lords upgrade sprue, it's gonna be Raptors.

[TheMawr]

 

I really think its raptors.. and also possibly as much nightlords as the scout team is ravenguard ; the paintjob.

Some of valraks rumor sources ( and definitely those for killteam.) seem to be in the boxing part of the industry, at wich point the nightlord element is likely a paintjob focus

 

when building on the rumors and keeping it as close to possible to previous killteam releases, it would look something like this ;

 

(autumn)   Blades of Khaine I (2x5 new scorpions) vs Ravenguard Scouts

(winter)      Nightlord Raptors (upgrade sprue ) vs Aelindrach nightmares (mandrakes, but maybe other stuff like shaderavens too.)

(spring)      Vespids vs ??? possibly in this video rumored jumppack guard ( cadian upgrade sprue)

(summer)   Blades of Khaine II ( 5 Swooping hawks+5 Fire dragons or Warpspiders) vs ??? possibly Admech upgrade sprue based killteam. (not a rumor, but makes sense with the narrative.. however KT isnt that strong on narrative teams in the end so this could be anything.)

 

The values dont really measure up though, but that is generally not consistent anyway. I could see the last one doing a 360 and Blades of Khaine II being swooping hawks + dire avengers, with the opposing side also being a new kit plus an old kit turned into a kill team, so still honoring the half the box is new element while spreading that between teams. possibly forgoing upgrade sprues entirely.

 

 

[Scribe]

4 hours ago, Chapter Master Valrak said:

Dark Eldar Mandrakes (New Models)

 

Please Khorne, let them be based on the current sculpts, please.

[Ammonius]

3 hours ago, grailkeeper said:

If they make First claw then they'd can just contact my bank directly and take the money out themselves.

What if it's not First Claw, but instead some of the Bleeding Eyes?

Edited October 30, 2023 by Ammonius
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[marspeople]

The first strike in a Dark Eldar range refresh?

[Doctor Perils]

11 minutes ago, marspeople said:

The first strike in a Dark Eldar range refresh?

I must admit I hope they don't get one yet, for their sake - once they're updated they'll be single pose, and the current sculpts are nice and detailed. The main exception being covers obviously

[marspeople]

3 minutes ago, Doctor Perils said:

I must admit I hope they don't get one yet, for their sake - once they're updated they'll be single pose, and the current sculpts are nice and detailed. The main exception being covers obviously

They desparately need it though. Half their range in unavailable to buy.

You can't even realistically start a DE army at the moment.

[Joe]

I would genuinely put money on Drukhari being partially updated this edition. I doubt they'll be in the 11E starter box, as I expect that'll cycle back round to Chaos after two editions of Xenos, however I'm happy to be wrong.

[Halandaar]

1 hour ago, Doctor Perils said:

I must admit I hope they don't get one yet, for their sake - once they're updated they'll be single pose, and the current sculpts are nice and detailed. The main exception being covers obviously

 

Mandrakes, Grotesques, Urien Rakarth, Beastmaster with Beasts and Court of the Archon all still need porting over from Finecast and that would be enough to be considered a range refresh, IMO.

 

3 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said:

It's Night Lords.

If any current CSM unit is getting a Night Lords upgrade sprue, it's gonna be Raptors.

 

They don't really work in Kill Team though, or rather the game of Kill Team would need to be altered/expanded to accommodate them. Not saying it can't be done but you would think they would do that in the first set of the new season, not partway through.

 

Edit: Also, Raptors probably need a full do-over to bring them into scale with the CSM models released since Shadowspear, rather than just an upgrade kit.

Edited October 30, 2023 by Halandaar

[Ming the Merciless]

9 minutes ago, Doctor Perils said:

I must admit I hope they don't get one yet, for their sake - once they're updated they'll be single pose, and the current sculpts are nice and detailed. The main exception being covers obviously

The existing plastic range is still great (tho a new Archon would be welcome). I don't imagine anything other than the remaining finecast being replaced anytime soon.

 

Happy to hear new Mandrakes are en route, would love to see the Decapitator reappear with them this edition.

 

[marspeople]

The Wracks are good. They could use some new basic Warriors though and Wytches.

They will be 14 years old by the time they might be updated. And they are showing their age.

[Scribe]

10 minutes ago, marspeople said:

The Wracks are good. They could use some new basic Warriors though and Wytches.

They will be 14 years old by the time they might be updated. And they are showing their age.

 

I'm not sure new Wyches would improve things, and I'm thinking Warriors and Incubi are pretty freaking timeless. Sure they could cut some new parts/poses, but man if that reboot wasnt a 10/10.

[OttoVonAwesome]

Nightlords upgrade tracks with some things i've seen recently. If jump guard is a cadian upgrade might mean Harkoni Warhawks and not Elysians.

[Valkia the Bloody]

Well, if this is Night Lords, this will be an instant buy from me.

Best faction ever.

[Fire Golem]

20 minutes ago, Scribe said:

 

I'm not sure new Wyches would improve things, and I'm thinking Warriors and Incubi are pretty freaking timeless. Sure they could cut some new parts/poses, but man if that reboot wasnt a 10/10.

Incubi are fairly new already, they came out when the plastic Howling Banshees did. 

[Warmaster1988]

If they bring a Night Lords Raptor Cult, maybe a complete new Set of Raptors + NL Sprue to replace those from 2012 and bring them in line with the latest CSM Models?

Edited October 30, 2023 by Warmaster1988

[Lord Marshal]

42 minutes ago, Scribe said:

 

I'm not sure new Wyches would improve things, and I'm thinking Warriors and Incubi are pretty freaking timeless. Sure they could cut some new parts/poses, but man if that reboot wasnt a 10/10.

 

If they wanted to remake the 5th edition Archon in plastic I'm sure they'd make the cost of the mould back overnight. 

 

 

It is impossible to improve upon this level of perfection. 

[Marshal Loss]

I am very down to see the return of the bat wing helmets

[Legionary Pallas]

1 hour ago, marspeople said:

The Wracks are good. They could use some new basic Warriors though and Wytches.

They will be 14 years old by the time they might be updated. And they are showing their age.

Kabalite Warriors just got a Kill Team upgrade sprue earlier this year, that kit is likely going nowhere for the foreseeable future.

[Special Officer Doofy]

10 minutes ago, Legionary Pallas said:

Kabalite Warriors just got a Kill Team upgrade sprue earlier this year, that kit is likely going nowhere for the foreseeable future.

 

Didn't guard get an upgrade sprue for cadians and less than a year later a new kit?

[TheMawr]

11 minutes ago, Legionary Pallas said:

Kabalite Warriors just got a Kill Team upgrade sprue earlier this year, that kit is likely going nowhere for the foreseeable future.

 

To be fair the old cadians got an upgrade sprue summer 2021 , that wasnt even related to another game or other rules.. only for the kit to be replaced within two years. Its not necessarily something GW wouldnt do.

[Joe]

I remember people calling me mad when I pointed out the new Cadian Shock Troops on the Angron leak. It was definitely a very odd and short-lived upgrade set.

[Interrogator Stobz]

It's almost like they want you to buy it once, buy it twice as an upgrade, buy it thrice as a reboot.

TBH though I think Warriors will be left alone for KT, and Wyches given a refresh.

[Legionary Pallas]

45 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

 

Didn't guard get an upgrade sprue for cadians and less than a year later a new kit?

 

44 minutes ago, TheMawr said:

 

To be fair the old cadians got an upgrade sprue summer 2021 , that wasnt even related to another game or other rules.. only for the kit to be replaced within two years. Its not necessarily something GW wouldnt do.

That's a good point and a choice by GW that is repeatedly baffling to me, and why I only said it was likely not retiring soon.

 

I do think they're not quite equivalent however, like you say, it wasn't related to another game. Hand of the Archon complicates matters in the overall odds of a compete replacement of the kit. I suppose the alternative is doing as Ork Boyz do, and having both kits coexist.

 

Edit: To bring this post slightly more on-topic though, while I'm skeptical about the possibility of a "Night Lords" Team and agree with the notion that it's probably a paintjob that's responsible for that, I am excited at the possibility of a Mandrake KT. I think they're very appropriate for the game, provided GW gives them a full suite of specialists and some ranged options which I don't believe would interfere with their lore, though I could be mistaken.

Edited October 30, 2023 by Legionary Pallas

[ThePenitentOne]

This is good news for me- just like I can get away with skipping the next KT box and just picking up the Scorpions, I can skip this box and just get the Mandrakes.

 

It's easier to sneak a unit into the budget than box.

 

Of course, if I want to field those models in KT, I'll either have to spring for the books or the annual when it comes.