Legions Imperialis Dracosans

[Lord Marshal]

Some non-flying transports for the Solar Auxilia

 

 

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These plastic tanks come in boxes of six – enough to carry up to 24 Solar Auxilia models right into the heart of battle.

 

Edited November 16, 2023 by Lord Marshal

[Hungry Nostraman Lizard]

Boxes of 6, and in plastic. Very nice. How about a big version reveal of this on Friday, eh? :P

[Captain Idaho]

I wonder when/if all these additional units will be released at the same time or just after the release date eh.

[Noserenda]

Good to see them, but a bit concerned this late reveal means they won't be coming soon

[Astartes Consul]

20 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said:

I wonder when/if all these additional units will be released at the same time or just after the release date eh.

 
Think they’ll be drip fed out tbh. 

[Cleon]

8 minutes ago, Noserenda said:

Good to see them, but a bit concerned this late reveal means they won't be coming soon

Sooner than you think!

 

(sorry, I'll get my coat)

[Lord Marshal]

My uneducated guess is they won't want to sit on this stuff for long. Maybe not 2023 with how few weeks left there are (and the 'Christmas gap' GW usually gives themselves), but probably January.

 

Presumably this is all sat in a warehouse somewhere gathering dust, given the White Dwarf 'spoiled' the existence of the first splatbook already, which is something they're probably loathe to have to do. 

 

Edited November 16, 2023 by Lord Marshal

[Marshal Rohr]

Handsome little chonksters

[Trokair]

Great to see these. :)

Now if they just reveal the Aurox and Carnodon for me to comit to the SolarAux.   

[Black Cohort]

The post says the six models in a kit can transport 24 models of Solar Auxillia or 4 bases each.  Does that mean that GW has planned this as a base of infantry is actually the 5 dudes on it, not that those dude represent a larger squad?

 

In that case the Solar Auxillia infantry of the core box only represents a couple of reinforced Tericos, not multiple companies.

[Interrogator Stobz]

Never mind 

Really not liking the wonky WW1 vibe for SA, shame; I think I'll wait for another faction now.

Edited November 16, 2023 by Interrogator Stobz

[Matcap86]

Oooooh pretty!

[Urauloth]

I love the Dracosan, delighted to see these. 100% keeping my starter set SAux now.

[Cactus]

1 hour ago, Black Cohort said:

The post says the six models in a kit can transport 24 models of Solar Auxillia or 4 bases each.  Does that mean that GW has planned this as a base of infantry is actually the 5 dudes on it, not that those dude represent a larger squad?

 

In that case the Solar Auxillia infantry of the core box only represents a couple of reinforced Tericos, not multiple companies.

Yes.

[nilsh]

Very nice looking.

[MithrilForge]

11 hours ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

Never mind 

Really not liking the wonky WW1 vibe for SA, shame; I think I'll wait for another faction now.

Awww that's a bit sad Bro, I actually don't mind the WW1 look, admittedly I'll be doing it in a Tallarn looking desert scheme (that might help ) 

What's your son think of em ?? (he is going to be the SA player in the family right ?!?..)

 

Cheers, M

[Orion]

11 hours ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

Never mind 

Really not liking the wonky WW1 vibe for SA, shame; I think I'll wait for another faction now.

 

Isn't it just how they've always been?
Were people expecting a redesign?

[MithrilForge]

51 minutes ago, JayJapanB said:

 

Isn't it just how they've always been?
Were people expecting a redesign?

Lets not assume...Perhaps not everyone here cares to play heresy or even looks at the units from it  , I for one didn't know(or care) that the 30k version of Guard during the heresy was the Solar Aux...

Brother Stobbz may have had no idea either that SA were Clunky and old looking   I'm only looking at HH as that's what Nu-Epic is made for otherwise I still wouldn't be looking at it...  

 

M

[Interrogator Stobz]

@Mumeishimy boy is ambivalent really, he certainly prefers the Chimera chassis, Russ chassis, and 40k Baneblade chassis look to these.

 

Which brings me on to @JayJapanBTBH I never bothered looking at 28mm SA on the GW site until I saw these awkward looking transports.

Now I see all the cool stuff I mentioned above is excluded at 28mm I'm waaaaay less keen on them. So is the Boy. Certainly not spend money keen. 

 

I'm judging by all the folks who don't want SA that I have joined a big club.

Shame really, would have dropped cash for 4-5000 points of cool Guard, but now....

Well Ninjad brother

[Orion]

49 minutes ago, Mumeishi said:

Lets not assume...Perhaps not everyone here cares to play heresy or even looks at the units from it  , I for one didn't know(or care) that the 30k version of Guard during the heresy was the Solar Aux...

Brother Stobbz may have had no idea either that SA were Clunky and old looking   I'm only looking at HH as that's what Nu-Epic is made for otherwise I still wouldn't be looking at it...  

 

M

I guess I thought the 30k following on B&C was more broad.

People get so excited about the Primarch stuff, but not the foot soldiers.

 

I think Solar Aux look cool. I hope any future 28mm releases follow the current design.

[Wispy]

For an extra 20 points, they can be upgraded to a Dracosenpai.

[sitnam]

13 minutes ago, JayJapanB said:

I guess I thought the 30k following on B&C was more broad.

People get so excited about the Primarch stuff, but not the foot soldiers.

I think the B&C has a fairly large 30k following, but I think those that dislike 30k are pretty vocal about it. I’m one of them, I hate that I won’t get little baby Doomstalkers and and Serapteks to go along with my Aeronautica croissants.

 

I do like the Dracosan however, but I’ve always been a sucker for the Malcador chassis

[Interrogator Stobz]

2 hours ago, JayJapanB said:

I guess I thought the 30k following on B&C was more broad.

People get so excited about the Primarch stuff, but not the foot soldiers.

 

I think Solar Aux look cool. I hope any future 28mm releases follow the current design.

 

Honestly brother, I think the Marine stuff for 30k has gotten massively better than their 40k counterparts. I absolutely love Sicarans, Kratos, the Dreads, and Infantry are classic and fantastic, and look to be better tech than the stagnant 40k Era as they always were in classic fluff (41k Era growth notwithstanding).

Unfortunately, I now know the FW IG stuff went the other way, style wise, by regression to WW1 style, and it seems a hard way to conquer the Galaxy (IMHO only of course).

 

Looking closer at the units available on the HH SA site:

Not a fan of Malcadors including this fella as stated, nor the Carnadon and Aurox as they're similar. 

But I do love the Arkurian Stormlord and it's Chassis; maybe they can use that as fluff to get a bigger range of more modern looking tanks for LI.

Great to see a Russ Chassis in there, but we need the whole range of options though, that SA Basilisk version is a bit wonky.

 

I quite like the Infantry, especially at 8mm  I was going to have minimal with tank heavy, but hmmm.

 

I'm thinking Macharius chassis won't ever appear due to timeline stuff, but they're cool too.

 

So basically I thought I was fussy; but really only don't like the 3 SA specific chassis which make up 90% of their range 

 

Edit: Lolz, before I get 'respectfully disagreed' off the board, the above is merely my opinion.

I love that others like the things I don't and hope everyone gets toys we want.

 

Edited November 17, 2023 by Interrogator Stobz

[Petitioner's City]

The thing is Solar Auxilia-style regiments are only a quarter of the wider Imperial Army, and likely declined in number through the heresy. While the rules will call them "Solar Auxilia", as long as there are no other baseline mortal armies, you can use the list with older Epic or 3d printed humans to represent the wider Excertus (the normal army regiments or even Militia).

 

For Xenos, and the army, you can bet your teeth there will in the next year or two fan made supplements bringing them "into" this game too :) 

 

1 hour ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

 

Unfortunately, I now know the FW IG stuff went the other way, style wise, by regression to WW1 style, and it seems a hard way to conquer the Galaxy (IMHO only of course).

 

 

Not a fan of Malcadors including this fella as stated, nor the 

I'm thinking Macharius chassis won't ever appear due to timeline stuff, but they're cool too.

 

 

The interesting thing is both these chassis were introduced for 40k, really when during Vraks in the mid-2000s and subsequent books,  Forge World really expanded that aesthetic of early heavy tanks (expanding on the Russ itself). That occurred before heresy.

 

The Malcador was grandfathered into heresy at its inception, becoming the heavy battle tank used by the legions before predators and russes were developed, and then becoming a feature of Auxilia when that was introduced in 2014, including it's Vraks-originating Infernus and Valdor variants alongside the new Dracosan. 

 

The macharius was a potential lord of war to include, and does fit well, even if it can't be a specific macharius itself - almost standing in for either a predecessor version of the same stl, or a similar vehicle that a different model or the macharius model can stand in for.

Edited November 17, 2023 by Petitioner's City

[Interrogator Stobz]

Thanks Brother, I seem to remember Vraks being a source too, your memory is sharper.

I may need to go the printed route, not a fan and would happily pay for plastic.

I will concentrate on a 5k pt Marine force in the first instance whilst I wait and see.