Your Dream "Black Templar Style" Range Refresh

[Blindhamster]

see, i just assume they have helmets and wear them when needed, but remove them when not. Just because I model one without a helmet doesn't mean he doesn't have one :)

and yeah 100% wouldn't want only helmetless options

[Tokugawa]

7 hours ago, Karhedron said:

I like a bit of variety when it comes to helmets. I like some conventional but ornate versions of normal armour marks, some death masks and some bare heads. That then leaves a few over for character conversions, sergeants etc. It is funny but when I am converting a model, I often try out a few different heads to see which one feels right.

 

The green border on base made the model looks like a 1980s GW product. Is it intended theme?

[Karhedron]

12 hours ago, Tokugawa said:

The green border on base made the model looks like a 1980s GW product. Is it intended theme?

 

Sort of. I actually started my BA army in the early 90s and I have never really changed the style of how I painted them. I have improved my painting and added new units over the years until I don't think any of the original models remain but it is still my original Blood Angels army in their original colour scheme. Hence the details like black rims on the pauldrons and a very bright red, verging on orange for the highlights.

 

I think the oldest models that regularly hit the tabletop still are 3rd edition which makes them over 20 years old. 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

RumorRak

says we’re getting new SHP, SG, and a BA boxset.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pSmHGBbvEtU&t=198s

[WrathOfTheLion]

On 11/19/2023 at 1:57 PM, WrathOfTheLion said:

A new Gabriel Seth would be nice too :)

 

I'd like to see a new decal sheet with any release, which should include a successor chapter, like the Flesh Tearers.

Bumping this now that we've seen the Dark Angels decal sheet. I think my wish for Successor chapters is quite likely now even, so we could see two or three successors, not just one on whatever new one we get.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

The new risen models have restored my faith in GW to make new chapter specific units.

[Blindhamster]

They are very nice. Very interested to see what we get. Feels like 2 units, upgrade sprue and x characters is a pattern now

[Karhedron]

Guess our upgrade sprue will likely include a few muscled torsos and deathmasks. I wonder if penchant for hand flamers and inferno pistols will carry over to 10th edition? Our unique units are traditionally Death Company and Sanguinary Guard. Both kits are getting on for 10 years old IIRC so I could easily Primaris versions of those. The main outstanding models who still needs to cross the Rubicon are Corbulo, Astorath and Lemartes (and Seth for Flesh Tearers). There is also the Sanguinor although I don't really see him becoming Primaris. But I can see a new more dramatic and embiggened model to act as our Primarch-equivalent centre-piece model. Or is that too many Characters?

[Blindhamster]

I think sanguinor is more likely to get a model than lemartes honestly. 
 

i imagine you’re right on the broad contents of an upgrade sprue though. 
 

think valrak said sanguinary guard and corbulo may come later in the year, and death company may come via kill team instead.

But, back on topic for the dark angels, I’m very interested to see how the codex works.

 

the boxed set is interesting enough, I can see the appeal for deathwing fans, but I also feel like there’s a good chance most dark angel players already have terminators aplenty, so probably not would have been preferable to have more of the knights 

[Tokugawa]

 We haven't seen the 100% full DA preview yet. BT got exactly EVERY character model updated, but their previous product range was relatively small. If DA also get it, then BA players could be more optimistic.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

4 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

I think sanguinor is more likely to get a model than lemartes honestly. 
 

i imagine you’re right on the broad contents of an upgrade sprue though. 
 

think valrak said sanguinary guard and corbulo may come later in the year, and death company may come via kill team instead.

But, back on topic for the dark angels, I’m very interested to see how the codex works.

 

the boxed set is interesting enough, I can see the appeal for deathwing fans, but I also feel like there’s a good chance most dark angel players already have terminators aplenty, so probably not would have been preferable to have more of the knights 

Depends on when that DA player started.

if they started in 9th with all the talk of first born being scrapped there’s a good chance that those players didn’t buy any of the old terminators, and the new ones aren’t that new that those people would likely have too many.

[Rhavien]

Here is my POV: I'm not convinced, that our DC will get a new dedicated kit. There is no way we will keep all the options for them, so there isn't really the need for them to be a seperate kit. You just paint the equivalent unit black and there you go. Maybe they get some special gear options via the upgrade sprue like the plasma cannon for DW terminators, but I don't expect any more. I think GW wants to give any unit a specific role nowadays and we won't see any more highly customizable units where the battlefield role is only defined by their wargear. 

Otoh I'm really looking forward to new Sanguinary Guard. They have the potential to look absolutely glorious and will be a pain to transport, but we are already used to glueing wings back on every time we move them. 

Of course I hope for a fitting Sanguinor, too. Would love to see him becoming our new big boy, centerpiece beacon of hope. 

For the upgrade sprue I'm hoping for some muscled torsos, flashy helmets, BA terminator Bits and many chapter symbols for tanks and such. 

What I really wish for is a primarised libby dread. That is something highly unique to us and would be a great sight in the battlefield. 

 

[Karhedron]

10 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

I think sanguinor is more likely to get a model than lemartes honestly. 

 

Yes, Lemartes and Astorath both have some overlap in being flying Chaplains with a link to the Death Company. I would be surprised if they both cross the Rubicon.

  

10 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

think valrak said sanguinary guard and corbulo may come later in the year, and death company may come via kill team instead.

 

I guess that is possible although Death Company seem too disorganised to form a Kill Team to me.

 

10 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

the boxed set is interesting enough, I can see the appeal for deathwing fans, but I also feel like there’s a good chance most dark angel players already have terminators aplenty, so probably not would have been preferable to have more of the knights 

 

I am inclined to agree there. It was like the Marines Christmas box containing 3 squads of Jump Assault Intercessors, seems slightly overloading on one kit.

[WrathOfTheLion]

4 hours ago, Karhedron said:

I am inclined to agree there. It was like the Marines Christmas box containing 3 squads of Jump Assault Intercessors, seems slightly overloading on one kit.

If you're not really dived in, it's a very focused box to really get your feet wet with Deathwing. So players that already have Terminators may be tempted to look at some new ones, and newer players possibly don't have any, so it's a good start there I think. I think it'll sell better than the Marine Christmas box, as it doesn't have things like the ATVs and Outriders cluttering it up.

 

I know I personally didn't get any of the new Terminators for Deathwing, as I was waiting for the release to see what was in store.

[Brother Raul]

The new Dark angels deathwing box has filled me with hope.

 

I also read into the Angaron Dante fight. There was a lore teaser about the Primaris death company and I figured the lore that the sanguinary guard was decimated by Angaron was a Segway into a new sanguinary guard kit.

 

The brutalis chassis is a hope and agree with Lemartes. Would love him to stay around but we only need 1 DC chaplain really. Tycho the lost gives some great play options. Those mortal wounds combined with a potential second oath of moment could be huge.

[Blindhamster]

26 minutes ago, Brother Raul said:

The new Dark angels deathwing box has filled me with hope.

 

I also read into the Angaron Dante fight. There was a lore teaser about the Primaris death company and I figured the lore that the sanguinary guard was decimated by Angaron was a Segway into a new sanguinary guard kit.

 

The brutalis chassis is a hope and agree with Lemartes. Would love him to stay around but we only need 1 DC chaplain really. Tycho the lost gives some great play options. Those mortal wounds combined with a potential second oath of moment could be huge.

After devastation of Baal, there was only the sanguinary ancient left anyway, so it’s the second time they’ve been decimated recently.

 

primaris death company are already a thing and have been since the first supplement codex for blood angels. They also already appeared in a couple of novels too.

[Karhedron]

50 minutes ago, Brother Raul said:

I also read into the Angaron Dante fight. There was a lore teaser about the Primaris death company and I figured the lore that the sanguinary guard was decimated by Angaron was a Segway into a new sanguinary guard kit.

 

Agreed. Dante got pasted in the same battle and I am wondering if that is what led him to cross the Rubicon Primaris.

[Marshal Reinhard]

If we assume BA get two chapter specific infantry kits when its their turn, to mirror the two that DA got (deathwing knights and companions), is there any reason not to think these two units won't be sanguinary guard and death company?

 

There's dedinately gonna be a new upgrade kit as well as some characters (Sanguinor?), which would also pretty much mirror the BT refresh from 21.

Edited December 27, 2023 by Marshal Reinhard

[Blindhamster]

10 minutes ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

If we assume BA get two chapter specific infantry kits when its their turn, to mirror the two that DA got (deathwing knights and companions), is there any reason not to think these two units won't be sanguinary guard and death company?

 

There's dedinately gonna be a new upgrade kit as well as some characters (Sanguinor?), which would also pretty much mirror the BT refresh from 21.

Well, Dark Angels just got a totally new unit.

I could see Death Company for us being intercessors, assault intercessors or jump assault intercessors upgraded via a new generic upgrade sprue tbh. That said, Valraks rumour was that DC were coming in kill team somehow - no idea how that would work or make sense personally, but that was the rumour.

Sanguinary Guard will be a totally new kit for sure - they're basiclaly our version of the Inner Circle Companions/Company Heroes in terms of role I think.

 

Seems like the upgrade kit provides "something" unique for an existing unit (melta on vehicles for templars, plasma canon on terminators for dark angels), I would guess at us getting an inferno pistol option for sergeants in tacticus armour tbh.

 

I'm still convinced we'll see corbulo/priest mult build kit, astorath and sanguinor for blood angels, with seth maybe also getting an update at the same time for flesh tearers. Which is actually more characters than most, so it could even be we just get those 4 characters, an upgrade kit and sanguinary guard.

[Goranged]

Additionally, I want Amarean Guard, Custodian of the Damned and new characters to join termis, gravis,  better SangPriest sinergies and rules. Also the chaplains unit will be cool, more new units, more variants, more flavor. Why not having Valdor discovered to be Sanguinor, helping to fulfill a debt by allowing Sanguinius to take his role on protecting the emperor; as our Primarch level character.

Edited December 27, 2023 by Goranged

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

If I’m not mistaken, we’ve had more playable characters in our sups/dexes than any other chapter for quite a while now, so maybe we get 2-3 characters plus Seth, and 2 units, a resculpt of one and a whole new one.

 

id love to see a BA specific gravis unit. A gravis blade guard type unit would be cool.

standard load-MC sword, heavy bolt pistol, and shield

options, replace sword and pistol for a bolt/flame storm gauntlet

replace bolt pistol with hand flamer

 

Edited December 27, 2023 by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[Paladin777]

I agree that a gravis BG type unit would be absolutely baller, but I don't see us getting something like that all to ourselves...

Edited December 27, 2023 by Paladin777

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 hour ago, Paladin777 said:

I agree that a gravis BG type unit would be absolutely baller, but I don't see us getting something like that all to ourselves...

I agree that would be unlikely, melee inceptors would be more likely, if we were to get a unique gravis unit.

 

inceptor gun option in one hand, and a power weapon in the other.

[Brother Raul]

On 12/28/2023 at 1:07 AM, Blindhamster said:

After devastation of Baal, there was only the sanguinary ancient left anyway, so it’s the second time they’ve been decimated recently.

 

primaris death company are already a thing and have been since the first supplement codex for blood angels. They also already appeared in a couple of novels too.

Yes indeed. Just before they launched DC intercessors I Rembert reading that the first Primaris were starting to show signs of the black rage.

[Marshal Reinhard]

6 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

Well, Dark Angels just got a totally new unit.

Very fair point.