Valkyrion Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Can Invulnerable Saves be used in Fights? Also, do LI rules questions go here? Or here? https://bolterandchainsword.com/forum/223-rules/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381822-invulnerable-saves-and-rules-question-location/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 They can go to the main Rules section but I recommend in this forum whilst we establish and evolve the community. Plus with new releases it's a really good thing to discuss in this area. Haven't the rules yet dang it, still waiting on the rulebook. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381822-invulnerable-saves-and-rules-question-location/#findComment-6007286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRowan Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Not read the rules completely yet but I’d guess no as there are no saves in close combat. Steve Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381822-invulnerable-saves-and-rules-question-location/#findComment-6007287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splog Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 No. Combat rules: “unless instructed otherwise, no Save rolls of any kind can be made against Wounds suffered during a Fight” The Invulnerable Save rule gives no instructions about Fights, basically saying it’s an additional save characteristic not modified by a weapon’s AP Valkyrion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381822-invulnerable-saves-and-rules-question-location/#findComment-6007327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Cheers, wanted to double check due to ++ saves being allowed to save against everything in normal 30k. Has anyone seen an instance in the rules where a model can make a save (or save equivalent) when Fighting? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381822-invulnerable-saves-and-rules-question-location/#findComment-6007340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Valkyrion said: Cheers, wanted to double check due to ++ saves being allowed to save against everything in normal 30k. Has anyone seen an instance in the rules where a model can make a save (or save equivalent) when Fighting? It's not a Fight, but structures get armour against wrecker and titans trying to destroy them in melee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381822-invulnerable-saves-and-rules-question-location/#findComment-6007341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 A general rule of Epic, and I think this goes back to all editions, is that if you lose in melee you are dead! At least for normal units, and it's a key tactic that you can use to try and take out very durable enemies (super heavies, land raiders etc.), providing you can get to them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381822-invulnerable-saves-and-rules-question-location/#findComment-6007585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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