Feedback needed please! 1000pts Gladius Task Force List

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

Hello brothers,

 

Firstly, let me just say; I suck at Warhammer 40,000. I don't think I've convincingly won a game since 8th edition. I've struggled to keep up with changes to scoring VP and the rules had left me behind. Then, I had a game against a tournament player at the local club and he was kind enough to walk me through many of the changes to how the game works these days (with regards to missions, I know core rules). I then watched a Vanguard Tactics video and a few more things started to click in my mind about the game itself. Anyway, I'm trying to improve my primary point tally and was playing with the following list:

 

• Captain, Warlord
• Liuetenant, Enhancement: Fire Discipline
• Intercessors x5
• Hellblasters x10
• Ballistus Dreadnought
• Gladiator Lancer
• Repulsor

 

Cap and LT both attached to Hellblasers and in Repulsor. 

 

I scored primaries with Intercessors on the home objective and with the dread moving to my closest No Man's Land objective. My repulsor moved to land on the centre of the battle field objective but didn't last long. I think I need more primary scorers. What  do you guys think of this list:

 

• Lieutenant, Warlord, Enhancement: Fire Discipline
• Incursors x 5
• Scouts x5
• Scouts x5
• Hellblasters x5
• Impulsor
• Ballistus Dreadnought
• Gladiator Lancer
• Repulsor

 

Please let me know if i'm heading in the right direction. I now know I need 25% (250 pts) on primary scorers and I think i have that now.

 

 

[TheArtilleryman]

When you say “primary scorers” what exactly do you mean? Battleline squads have higher OC but in your second list you have none. Do you mean just infantry in general?

 

IMO I would switch the incursors for infiltrators - their deep strike denial ability is very handy. If you plonk a Phobos librarian in the unit it makes them even harder to shift as they can’t be targeted for shooting attacks outside of 12”.

 

Also, the one unit that was scoring for you before (the intercessors) you dropped from the list - not sure why, as this is the best OC unit. Once you’ve taken an objective with them, you can move off and it stays yours until the enemy retakes it, so that gives you other options. 

How well was the Lancer doing for you? Because you could maybe switch it for an intercessor squad and the librarian, depending on how useful you’re finding it.

Edited January 10 by TheArtilleryman

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

On 1/10/2024 at 4:53 PM, TheArtilleryman said:

When you say “primary scorers” what exactly do you mean? Battleline squads have higher OC but in your second list you have none. Do you mean just infantry in general?

 

IMO I would switch the incursors for infiltrators - their deep strike denial ability is very handy. If you plonk a Phobos librarian in the unit it makes them even harder to shift as they can’t be targeted for shooting attacks outside of 12”.

 

Also, the one unit that was scoring for you before (the intercessors) you dropped from the list - not sure why, as this is the best OC unit. Once you’ve taken an objective with them, you can move off and it stays yours until the enemy retakes it, so that gives you other options. 

How well was the Lancer doing for you? Because you could maybe switch it for an intercessor squad and the librarian, depending on how useful you’re finding it.

 So, yeah, Primary Scorers, units that will score me Primaries. I understand OC, however, one unit of Intercessors moving 6-12" won't hit as many objectives as two scout squads and one incursor squad. If an enemy unit with higher than 5 OC assaults my homefield objective, I think I have bigger probalems than OC. 

 

Do you think the INfils deep strike denial is better than the incursors +1 to hit? I don't have enough points for a phobos libby sadly.

 

The lancer is one of my main damage dealers so id rather not lose it.

[TheArtilleryman]

1 hour ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

 So, yeah, Primary Scorers, units that will score me Primaries. I understand OC, however, one unit of Intercessors moving 6-12" won't hit as many objectives as two scout squads and one incursor squad. If an enemy unit with higher than 5 OC assaults my homefield objective, I think I have bigger probalems than OC. 

 

Do you think the INfils deep strike denial is better than the incursors +1 to hit? I don't have enough points for a phobos libby sadly.

 

The lancer is one of my main damage dealers so id rather not lose it.

I see the reasoning and it does make sense. Scouts are nice and can work well but they of course they are pretty squishy. 

 

I guess it depends on who you are playing. I know most of my regular opponents are going to drop terminator squads so I find the deep strike denial really important. Just means they can’t immediately rush you.

 

I guess just keep playing games and use trial and error to find what works best.