grailkeeper Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Hopefully this is the start of somwthing more. SalamandersBro, Interrogator Stobz, Pacific81 and 43 others 15 30 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Turns out it's from his YouTube channel and is labelled fan art. Might be the start of something but not something GW official. https://youtu.be/HCm4TXiSKpc?si=wsiDNaxnMe0N5KZ6 Firedrake Cordova, HolyPestilience, Gamiel and 3 others 2 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6017984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovellovin Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 That is really an awesome piece. I agree with you, hopefully more artwork is in the pipeline. I'd love to see this style return to the Chaos codex. HolyPestilience 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinespider Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Wonderful. My brain can barely perceive it as something new, I feel like it has to be some old piece that was just overlooked. Hungry Nostraman Lizard, Firedrake Cordova, Master Commander Ajax and 4 others 2 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Wow..used to love his art in some of the old Chaos Codecies - the ones of the marines of the four pantheons which are absolutely iconic. If this isn't being used in a publication it certainly should be! LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xirix Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Did he do the art for the 3rd/4th Edition Chaos Codex? Looks very familiar, especially the guy in the middle. Bev'an 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etruscan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Fabulous evocative work. Would love to see more of this style in GW codexes as a whole. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 He also had this on his instagram (couldn't seem to link directly on mobile). Xin Ceithan, MithrilForge, Harleqvin and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I wish I could art good... Or at all Cenobite Terminator, Master Commander Ajax, Pacific81 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Just now, USNCenturion said: Thanks for this. Love his art. The stuff these days is just so uninspired. Give me Kopinski and Smith and Gallagher. Dave Gibbo s had some pretty iconic stuff in the early days. But yeah for me Adrian Amith is THE warhammer artist. I don't know why he stopped but I hope GW see this and send a big truck full of money to his house so that he comes back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 24 minutes ago, grailkeeper said: He also had this on his instagram (couldn't seem to link directly on mobile). Not meant as a snap at both pieces of artwork, but both give me the feeling of being AI art trained on adrian smith work rather than work from adrian smith himself. I cant yet fully put my finger on why exactly. Its also difficult, as some elements that are things to recognise very good AI work, are elements he always had in his art. (and before anyone questions the logic.. AI has made massive steps past few months, its way beyond what was in some topics here same time last year.) edit : it could be they are quicker more sketchy work from him perhaps, and Im used to his more finetuned work. Contrast is also lower than usual ( and I dont mean as a filter or setting,but manually made contrast.) Edited January 22 by TheMawr Cenobite Terminator, Pacific81, MithrilForge and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Old man Smith is one of the greats of Warhammer artwork. Iconic. Cenobite Terminator and MithrilForge 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, TheMawr said: Not meant as a snap at both pieces of artwork, but both give me the feeling of being AI art trained on adrian smith work rather than work from adrian smith himself. I cant yet fully put my finger on why exactly. Its also difficult, as some elements that are things to recognise very good AI work, are elements he always had in his art. (and before anyone questions the logic.. AI has made massive steps past few months, its way beyond what was in some topics here same time last year.) It's not AI art but I could see GW embracing AI. They don't give a lot of credit to the creative that work for them, now more than ever. The current AIs available to the public can already do a pretty decent space marine. I'm sure privately licenced by gw in a few years could be do a job that we couldn't identify. Dezron and N1SB 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TheMawr said: Not meant as a snap at both pieces of artwork, but both give me the feeling of being AI art trained on adrian smith work rather than work from adrian smith himself. I cant yet fully put my finger on why exactly. Its also difficult, as some elements that are things to recognise very good AI work, are elements he always had in his art Had the exact same feeling. It's something to do with how "procedural" filling areas with details looks in AI "art". There's a lot of detail that doesn't mesh internally or is completely disjointed from the surface it's supposedly on. The weapon is egregiously dumb as well, simplistic as a shape. There are also "tells" visible to those who are in on the lore, unlike the AI - the clearly Slaaneshi / Noise Marine heads, but "triad" Nurgle symbols and flies are a dead giveaway. The multi-eyed belt screams Tzeentch instead. The pipes don't make sense. The "armour studs" are peppered around not uniformly and just randomly off to one side (middle guy) Edited January 22 by Kastor Krieg MithrilForge, lilking, TheMawr and 3 others 2 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 It's not Ai. You can see him inking in the pencils in the youtube video I linked to.. Cenobite Terminator, Gamiel, MithrilForge and 2 others 1 1 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It might be that as this isn't official GW art he can just do what he likes with it, rather than it having to confirm directly to the lore descriptions of these things. Hence it being a bit 'uncanny valley' because you expect things to be in a certain place in a certain way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, grailkeeper said: It's not AI art but I could see GW embracing AI. They don't give a lot of credit to the creative that work for them, now more than ever. The current AIs available to the public can already do a pretty decent space marine. I'm sure privately licenced by gw in a few years could be do a job that we couldn't identify. As it was official and Adrian smith is an analog artist I already didnt think so, but now went and watched the video :) You are underestimating how far AI art is already though, especially when using trainers... part of me is ok with it.. it competes with digital artists mostly I think, while probably adding more value to analog artists. However the main reason GW wont use it yet isnt about what it can and cant do, but rather the legal issues still surrounding it. Anyway back to the adrian smith artwork appreciation topic. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 4 hours ago, grailkeeper said: Turns out it's from his YouTube channel and is labelled fan art. Might be the start of something but not something GW official. https://youtu.be/HCm4TXiSKpc?si=wsiDNaxnMe0N5KZ6 Damn, I guess even Adrian Smith sometimes makes a lemon. Edited January 22 by Kastor Krieg Calgar 2.0, grailkeeper, Pacific81 and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, Pacific81 said: It might be that as this isn't official GW art he can just do what he likes with it, rather than it having to confirm directly to the lore descriptions of these things. Hence it being a bit 'uncanny valley' because you expect things to be in a certain place in a certain way. No kastor krieg pointed it out well, but as I said originally, that its interesting that its things he always had to some extend that just so happen to coincide with typical AI elements. Its not a matter of doubting the art (as there is evidence of him drawing it ) Adrian smith is THE AI and always has been. Man of Iron. Kastor Krieg and Gamiel 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1SB Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 hours ago, grailkeeper said: Turns out it's from his YouTube channel and is labelled fan art. Might be the start of something but not something GW official. https://youtu.be/HCm4TXiSKpc?si=wsiDNaxnMe0N5KZ6 Hey everyone, go through this link to give him a thumbs up, because maybe he'll make more if he sees a lot of Likes! MithrilForge, Pacific81, Doctor Perils and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, TheMawr said: its things he always had to some extend that just so happen to coincide with typical AI elements. Oh yeah, absolutely. That kind of slap-dash approach to realism was always his thing, it's a bit more expressed here and thus tripped up those of us who now align those qualities with AI "art". Lot less exposure to Adrian Smith these days, much more to Dall-E or Midjourney and our pattern-recognition jelly goes WUT IZ DAT? IZ DAT A EY AY GIT? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenobite Terminator Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I’ve always found Adrian to be very detail oriented. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Dude, that's nuts! Really cool to see the process too. A lot of the time it's hard to tell the scale of the image and how it's composed on paper when it's in the codexes and rulebooks. skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta galactosidase Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 If you go through Smith’s unofficial work I think there are many examples of the nurgle triad and other chaos imagery not being exactly the same as official green-blue-red-purple chaos pantheon. He seems to have his own ideas. I appreciate it. Especially chaos but most concepts are a little less nailed-down than in official work Pacific81, apologist, Vesalius and 2 others 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 hours ago, Beta galactosidase said: If you go through Smith’s unofficial work I think there are many examples of the nurgle triad and other chaos imagery not being exactly the same as official green-blue-red-purple chaos pantheon. He seems to have his own ideas. I appreciate it. Especially chaos but most concepts are a little less nailed-down than in official work That aspect of Chaos as intentionally blurry, deliberately contrary and – well, Chaotic – is something that has gradually been refined out from official publications, which is a bit of a shame, I think. There's always been an uneasy idea of what non-aligned Chaos marines look like – and since, I imagine, they are the rule rather than the exception, that seems odd. Adrian Smith's artwork has always had a wonderful sense of horror to it. I can't really express it beyond he really seems to get the obsessive madness that's so key to the Warhammer universes. Antarius, SpecialIssue, Ramell and 5 others 2 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382166-new-art-by-adrian-smith/#findComment-6018133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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