killersquid Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Hi folks. Getting back into playing after half a year of not playing, and struggling to build lists with my collection. Here is what I have set right now (Terminator characters with terminators, libby with hounds) Terror in the void (2000 points) Space Marines Space Wolves Strike Force (2000 points) Vanguard Spearhead CHARACTERS Captain in Terminator Armour (95 points) • Warlord • 1x Relic weapon 1x Storm bolter Librarian in Phobos Armour (70 points) • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Force weapon 1x Smite Wolf Guard Battle Leader in Terminator Armour (100 points) • 1x Power weapon 1x Storm bolter • Enhancement: The Blade Driven Deep OTHER DATASHEETS Ballistus Dreadnought (140 points) • 1x Armoured feet 1x Ballistus lascannon 1x Ballistus missile launcher 1x Twin storm bolter Brutalis Dreadnought (175 points) • 1x Brutalis bolt rifles 1x Brutalis fists 1x Twin Icarus ironhail heavy stubber 1x Twin heavy bolter Eliminator Squad (75 points) • 1x Eliminator Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Las fusil • 2x Eliminator • 2x Bolt pistol 2x Close combat weapon 2x Las fusil Eliminator Squad (75 points) • 1x Eliminator Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Las fusil • 2x Eliminator • 2x Bolt pistol 2x Close combat weapon 2x Las fusil Gladiator Valiant (150 points) • 1x Armoured hull 2x Multi-melta 1x Twin las-talon Hounds of Morkai (180 points) • 1x Hound of Morkai Pack Leader • 1x Morkai bolt pistol 1x Morkai combat knife • 9x Hound of Morkai • 9x Morkai bolt pistol 9x Morkai combat knife Incursor Squad (85 points) • 1x Incursor Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Occulus bolt carbine 1x Paired combat blades • 4x Incursor • 4x Bolt pistol 1x Haywire Mine 4x Occulus bolt carbine 4x Paired combat blades Incursor Squad (85 points) • 1x Incursor Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Occulus bolt carbine 1x Paired combat blades • 4x Incursor • 4x Bolt pistol 1x Haywire Mine 4x Occulus bolt carbine 4x Paired combat blades Infiltrator Squad (100 points) • 1x Infiltrator Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Marksman bolt carbine • 4x Infiltrator • 4x Bolt pistol 4x Close combat weapon 4x Marksman bolt carbine Invictor Tactical Warsuit (140 points) • 1x Fragstorm grenade launcher 1x Heavy bolter 1x Invictor fist 1x Twin ironhail autocannon 1x Twin ironhail heavy stubber Storm Speeder Thunderstrike (160 points) • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Stormfury missiles 1x Thunderstrike las-talon 1x Twin Icarus rocket pod Terminator Squad (370 points) • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power weapon 1x Storm bolter • 9x Terminator • 2x Assault cannon 4x Chainfist 5x Power fist 7x Storm bolter Exported with App Version: v1.10.0 (37), Data Version: v336 I think this has tools to deal with multiple scenarios. Other units I have in my collection are.. Gravis cap Phobos cap Sword/shield cap Terminator libby Logan grimnar X2 more warsuits X1 more 5 man incursor squads X1 more Eliminator Squad with Las talon X1 more 5 man Infiltrator unit Combi-weapon lt Reiver lt Thunderwolf lord Thunderwolf lt Thunderwolf Squad of 3 5 infernus marines Ancient Land raider with lascannon Sternguard Squad of 5 (from Leviathan) Are anything here worth subbing in? Maybe detachment changes based on collection? Open to all feedback. Also, I don't have resources to buy a lot quickly, but if folks could recommend maybe a unit or two which would be good to pick up to compliment my collection, that would be recommend as well! Thanks! Wolf Guard Dan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Full disclosure: I’m not sure I know what I’m doing either. The list has good tools. I recommend playing a few games and seeing what works and what doesn’t. I do like the combi weapon lieutenant for marking the objective and lone operatives are legit. You do have a lot of options and I wouldn’t worry about picking up anything at this point. GW had been trying to make everything worth taking and is punitive against auto includes. I do think Scouts are good but your army is Vanguard so had a lot of tricks without them. I recommend only getting a unit if you like the unit and the models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6020299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquid Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 Thanks, I appreciate the support. I have my first game tonight, so I'll try and brush the dust off my gameplay and see what works. Signed up for a tournament at the end of the month. I don't expect to place or do well, but it's nice to have a guaranteed 3 games to play in one day against (hopefully) a variety of forces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6020416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquid Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 (edited) Well, I had my game. A bit of a beginner game with a fellow from the local shop, who was learning his Tau. So, by no means either of us were playing super efficiently lol, but it was a good way to learn and get back in the swing of how the game works. My Favourite units from the game, were the Terminators, Ballistus Dread, Stormspeeder Thunderstrike, and the Gladiator Valliant. Vs Tau, the stormspeeder could give my whole army +1 to wound vs any of his suit units, which was nice. The Valliant, Stormspeeder, and Ballistus were all very effective with their long-range shooting. The Brutalus never made it to combat, but the infiltrating unit with 12 terminators was fun. Looking forward to trying the list out again. Edited February 8 by killersquid Wolf Guard Dan and TiguriusX 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6021687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Nice! Glad the thunder strike was working for you. Tau are always fun to bash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6021698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 did you try to rapid ingress the brutalis? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6021922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquid Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 4 hours ago, TiguriusX said: did you try to rapid ingress the brutalis? No, I should try that next time, as he was slow walking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6021955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquid Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 Finished a couple of models, and I played in a RTT recently. Redemptor and Chappy on bike Played in 2000pt 3 round RTT Here is my Army. Game 1 was Vs Deamons, with Belakor, Lord of Change, Great Unclean One, and a big unit of Bloodletters and Bloodcrushers to take advantage of the Bloodthrone Buffs. T1, I ran my infiltrating terminators into him with dread support, but he killed most of the unit dead almost immediatly afterwards. I was able to do well with scoring, but I made mistakes with target priority and positioning (let alone losing my terminators early) Lost 72-75 Game 2 vs Chaos Space Marines, with almost all nurgle vehicles. This game was very tough, as I couldn't see him unless I was within 18", and he had so much shooting, that if I came out I'd loose what went into the open. In Hindsight, I played this too caustiously, and should have been more aggressive. My passive deployment forced my vehicles to get stuck behind terrain and unable to move. Lost 70-74 Game 3 Vs Custodes and Canis Rex This game went pretty well for me from the hop. The Ballistus and Stormspeeder were able to take down Rex in two turns, and the terminators, Redemptor and Brutalis took out the middle. Won 80-52 Overall, very happy with my list. Really like the Incursors and Thunderstrike buffing my units shooting. My list was slow though, and I really had trouble getting objectives quickly. I also played too caustiously, and should have been more aggressive. The Brutalis didn't really do anything, I tried rapid ingressing him game 2, and it backfired against me, as my opponent screened me out really well. Painting up some thunderwolf, and hopefully be back at an event in a few months. TiguriusX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6028948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Your prior report said the brutalis never made it to combat. With rapid ingress you will hit something...even if just screens. You need to play around that by sending brutalis into his screens on turn 2 and forcing a response or clearing the screens and sending brutalis on turn 3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6029113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquid Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 Yeah, it charged a vindicator tank after coming in, but bounced off of it and then was blown up. I just didn't have a lot of good places to bring it in. It did better in the two games it walked, as it could then fight for an objective. But in game 1 belakor charged and killed it. Game 3 it killed a bunch of custodes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6029236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 hours ago, killersquid said: Yeah, it charged a vindicator tank after coming in, but bounced off of it and then was blown up. I just didn't have a lot of good places to bring it in. It did better in the two games it walked, as it could then fight for an objective. But in game 1 belakor charged and killed it. Game 3 it killed a bunch of custodes. Bouncing off a vindicator is bad luck You wound on 3s and with a tank shock going in have a decent chance of killing it I'm guessing armor of contempt and made the 3s and if you are still vanguard you have no way to buff your melee AP (main reason I use Gladius is the AP melee buff) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6029283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquid Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 No Armour of contempt, just bad rolls. I had in three consecutive turns an invictor, the brutalis, and a redemptor all charge the same vindicator and none killed it. Lol. I was playing Vanguard, so i could Infiltrate the terminators. I found the defense buffs useful, but I didn't really use the strats much. Might try a different detachment next time. TiguriusX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6029286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 the vindicator should have died from tank shock alone with all those charges clearly had the emperors blessing to survive all that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382237-2000pt-wolves-not-sure-what-im-doing/#findComment-6029293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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